whatusaid
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Another G4 HNL Meltdown?

Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:46 pm

I noticed that Saturday's FAT-HNL was about seven hours late. Todays FAT-HNL, scheduled at 10a, is still on the ground at just before 2p. Sounds as if the domino effect is in full motion again. Seems as if G4 just cannot get their act together on Hawaii. What's the story from other markets?

I know that the Friday HNL-FAT came in on-time, so Saturday's departure must have been a mechanical in Fresno. Don't know the story behind today's delay.
 
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RE: Another G4 HNL Meltdown?

Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:09 pm

HNL meltdown. These type of delays are typical all over G4s network.
 
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RE: Another G4 HNL Meltdown?

Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:39 pm

Learning the hard way...
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RE: Another G4 HNL Meltdown?

Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:31 am

My really good friend is a FA for them based in SFB. He says the MD-80s are always broke. Instead of changing a light bulb in the PSU for the no smoking sign, something that is a no go item if it burns out, they took the bulbs out and replaced them with stickers. Good idea on them. But still. I do know that they are flying some really old 80's but they're paid for, and they make money so even with the mx issues its still making business sense. He's never been on the 757 except in training, and the A319 is due in his base in October, but he says Las Vegas keeps changing they're arrival date of the Bus.
 
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RE: Another G4 HNL Meltdown?

Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:51 am

Well, BLI-HNL is right on time today, as it essentially has been for the last two weeks, and the inbound was within 30 mins every day in the last two weeks.
 
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RE: Another G4 HNL Meltdown?

Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:03 pm

My G4 sources indicate the FAT issue was due to crew rest issues.

The thing you must remember about G4 is the price the pax pay for a bundled vacation. No one else flies from these places to major vacation destinations on mainline aircraft and you certainly couldn't piece meal a vacation together on your on for the same price. Bottom line is people will gripe, but will be back next time they want to go to vacation land.
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RE: Another G4 HNL Meltdown?

Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:42 pm

I cant even believe with all the breakdowns and delays that anyone would want to fly with this airline. I guess if time means nothing to you, then fly with Allegiant. With all the add on fees I don't belive that a major difference exists between Allegiant and a LCC or Major carrier.
 
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RE: Another G4 HNL Meltdown?

Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:03 pm

Quoting dsuairptman (Reply 5):
and you certainly couldn't piece meal a vacation together on your on for the same price.

Sure you could...Allegiant certainly isn't the only master at this. Plenty of people travel the US everyday on customized vacations, and if you know where to look...

We should make a thread called the "Allegiant Challenge"...post some itinerary that Allegiant markets and see who can beat it for the same dates.

I'm too lazy to but it could be fun I suppose
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whatusaid
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RE: Another G4 HNL Meltdown?

Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:37 pm

Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 7):
Quoting dsuairptman (Reply 5):
and you certainly couldn't piece meal a vacation together on your on for the same price.

Sure you could...Allegiant certainly isn't the only master at this. Plenty of people travel the US everyday on customized vacations, and if you know where to look...

We should make a thread called the "Allegiant Challenge"...post some itinerary that Allegiant markets and see who can beat it for the same dates.

I'm too lazy to but it could be fun I suppose

I've not seen anything from G4 to Hawaii that made me want to rush out and book it other than those $99 OW fares back in February. With a little work, you could book G4 flights and the hotels separately and beat their own packages. Last summer, AA was pretty much matching (and at times beating) the G4 packages at the Hilton Hawaiian Village from FAT, although you had to route through LAX.

You want a deal? Book August 10th FAT - HNL for $118. There's no return as the last HNL-FAT is August 9. But, you're there cheap. Now, get creative.
 
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RE: Another G4 HNL Meltdown?

Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:26 am

Quoting WhatUsaid (Reply 8):
You want a deal? Book August 10th FAT - HNL for $118. There's no return as the last HNL-FAT is August 9. But, you're there cheap. Now, get creative.

I noticed the same thing was true from EUG on Aug 10th, $108.99.
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RE: Another G4 HNL Meltdown?

Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:10 pm

Quoting WhiteWasp (Reply 3):
Instead of changing a light bulb in the PSU for the no smoking sign, something that is a no go item if it burns out, they took the bulbs out and replaced them with stickers

I'm under the impression they troubleshoot the "'apparent" problem but also are required to check the next higher assembly

Quoting WhiteWasp (Reply 3):
He says the MD-80s are always broke

I'm guessing G4 keeps limited spare parts/inventory at their less than daily outstations. The XXX-HNL stations may carry additional inventory. If a mad-dog breaks and the part is not available locally and it cannot be parts pooled; (it is a MD-80) the part would have to come from LAS in G4 case I suppose. With less than daily frequencies it could be a logistics quagmire.
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