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787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:40 am

Due to length of part 15, here is part 16.

Part 15: 787 Production/delivery Thread Part 15 (by iowaman May 24 2013 in Civil Aviation)
 
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Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:54 am

Not a terrible way to open up a new thread: the 787-9 engines have been delivered by RR. Looks like ZB001 may roll out with engines after all.



Courtesy of RR:
http://www.rolls-royce.com/news/pres...13/19062013_787_9_first_flight.jsp
 
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Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:58 am

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 1):
Not a terrible way to open up a new thread: the 787-9 engines have been delivered by RR. Looks like ZB001 may roll out with engines after all.

Was there any doubt about that? The 787-9 program is a complete 180 from when ZA001 was at this point in its final assembly process.
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Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:43 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 2):
Was there any doubt about that?

It has been indicated that the first set of Package C engines are actually not even going on ZB001 but ZA004 for testing and that was not supposed to happen until later in July (see article below). If that was the case then I thought there was a chance that it would roll out without engines until a second set were delivered or they will fit ZB001 with Package B engines as they are already rated for 70klbf and swap them out for package C engines later. If I am not mistaken the primary difference in engines is the furl burn anyway. The article linked above specifically said that the engines they were delivering was going to be used on first flight.

Here is the background on the ZA004 getting the first set of RR Package C engines:
http://www.aviationweek.com/Article....l/avd_06_12_2013_p01-02-587117.xml

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Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:39 am

Per NYC777:
ZA576 flew a second flight (C-2) this evening but is now being routed from Moses Lake to Boeing Field, anyone know why?

The flight earlier today was a B-2 -- simple up and down to clear previous squawks. The second flight to KMWH and back was the C-1 as identified by the speed and altitude graph -- constant 15,000ft with airspeed deviations prior to descent into KMWH. Return was to KPAE -- initial route to KBFI was a mistake.
 
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Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:47 am

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 4):

Per NYC777:
ZA576 flew a second flight (C-2) this evening but is now being routed from Moses Lake to Boeing Field, anyone know why?

I think this showed up incorrectly in Flightaware.
Looks like it was consequently fixed:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...6/history/20130623/0200Z/KMWH/KPAE


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Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:52 am

When is the next NH delivery due?
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Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:01 am

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 6):
When is the next NH delivery due?

hkcanadaexpat projected the following ANA deliveries up thread.

1) LN 107 / ZA 514 / JA-821A (June/July 2013) *looks like July
2) LN 110 / ZA 121 / JA-822A (July 2013)
3) LN 120 / ZA 122 / JA-823A (August 2013)
4) LN 132 / ZA 515 / JA-824A (November/December 2013)
5) LN 140 / ZA 123 / JA-825A (January/February 2014) * Charleston
6) LN 147 / ZA 124 / JA-827A (January/February 2014)
7) LN 148 / ZA 516 / JA-828A (January/February 2014)

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Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:57 am

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 5):
I think this showed up incorrectly in Flightaware.

Correct - flew B2 around noon and C1 in the late afternoon.
I am told if it requires C2 it will happen early Sunday.

Delivery to happen late in the week.
 
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Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:26 am

From BA's Twitter account:

"The ETA for the 787 on the 26th June is 10.20AM and for the 27th is 11.25AM"
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Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:05 pm

ZA434 is finally on its way to FTW for painting:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...4/history/20130623/1415Z/KCHS/KFTW
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Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:20 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 10):

Gonna try to go down and film the arrival.  
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Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:25 pm

You might also spot a painted Air India frame (LN91).
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Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:18 pm

What is the off the line production total at this point. With both Washington and SC birds.
 
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Seven frames per month.
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Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:42 pm

At FTW. LN91 is indeed here.  
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Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:34 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 16):

ZA576

This has to be one of the worst 787 liveries yet.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/royalscottking/9111470187/

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Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:41 pm

Looks like BAB ZA450 is on the way back from KMWH on its C-1:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE450
 
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Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:01 am

And here it is. LN85 landing at FTW, today. Unbelievably quiet!   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aPYz3DJ0jw
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Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:21 am

Quoting KPDX (Reply 19):

Nice job KPDX. Great video.

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787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:43 am

Big week ahead with potentially 3 new airlines taking delivery of 787s before the end of the month.

Next up...

Deliveries:
> B-2722 (Hainan Airlines #1) (@ Charleston) -> 25 jun
> G-ZBJA (British Airways #1) -> 25 jun
> G-ZBJB (British Airways #2) -> 26 jun
> EI-LNA (Norwegian #1/ILFC #1) -> 27 jun

First Flights:
> B-2728 (Hainan Airlines #3) ->not "first" flight but first since Jan 8, 2013
> JA-832J (Japan Airlines #10)
> B-2734 (China Southern #3) (@ Charleston)
> A7-BCE (Qatar Airways #7)
> B-27?? (China Southern #4) -> not painted. maybe to be painted in Texas

FAL Rollout:
> VH-VKA (Qantas/Jetstar #1)
> B-2736 (China Southern #7) (@ Charleston)
> N963AM (Aeromexico #3/ILFC #5)

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787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:20 am

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 21):
> N963AM (Aeromexico #3/ILFC #5)

Is that AM #2 / ILFC #4?

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Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:41 am

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 22):
Is that AM #2 / ILFC #4?

LN 122 (AM #2) has completed assembly. Its temporarily being stored inside the FAL (where there's room these days!) awaiting its turn outside. should be imminently as LN 118 (LAN) comes out of paint and LN 121 (BA) goes into paint, making room for it.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 6):
When is the next NH delivery due?

ANA aircraft positioning at PAE is out of sync so not that easy to predict the sequencing and timing. JA-821A is sitting on the 748 flightline. JA-822A is in storage at the EMC and JA-823A is actually on the flightline. So July should see JA-821A at the very least. Whether JA-823A skips JA-822A and makes it two deliveries for July, we shall wait and see if it stays on the flightline and goes through the motions or is just there temporarily and then gets moved to storage to make space for ealier built frames.

United N29907 and ANA JA-823A are both on the flightline out of sync right now having jumped JA-822A, EI-LNB, G-ZBJC and N961AM. Time will tell whether they are actually jumping or just temporarily hanging out post painting.

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Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:22 am

EI-LNA, Norwegian's #1 will land in Oslo on Sunday June 30th which entails a departure on June 29th from PAE.
(in Norwegian unfortunately)
http://www.aftenposten.no/okonomi/No...nne-uken-7238769.html#.UcgrXOARtbw

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Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:28 pm

As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here. For more specific information on the aircraft in production, I recommend going to http://nyc787.blogspot.com/

DELIVERED TO DATE: 63 Aircraft to 10 Airlines

DELIVERIES PRIOR TO JUNE
NH-19; JL-8; AI-6; UA–6; QR-5; ET-4; LO-3; LA-3; BY-2; CZ-1

JUNE DELIVERIES
L/N 96 - G-TUIC – 6/12/2013 – BY #3
L/N 98 – JA831J – 6/12/2013 - JL #9
L/N 99 - A7-BCD – 6/14/2013 - QR #6 (Paris Air Show)
L/N 72 - VT-ANM – 6/18/2013 - AI #7
L/N 101 - JA820A - 6/20/2013 - NH #20
L/N 87 - SP-LRD – 6/21/2013 – LO #4

AIRCRAFT THAT HAVE COMPLETED MAJOR ASSEMBLY
L/N 76 - B-2722 – 6/25/2013 - HU #1
L/N 111 – G-ZBJB - 6/25/2013 - BA #1
L/N 108 – G-ZBJA - 6/26/2013 - BA #2
L/N 102 – EI-LNA - 6/27/2013 - DY #1 (ILFC)
L/N 95 - B-2733 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #2
L/N 90 - VT-ANN – 6/xx/2013 - AI #8 (Paris Air Show)
L/N 91 - VT-ANO – 7/xx/2013 - AI #9
L/N 43 - B-2727 – x/xx/2013 - CZ #3
L/N 81 - B-2723 – x/xx/2013 - HU #2
L/N 73 - B-2728 – x/xx/2013 - HU #3
L/N 85 - B–2724 - x/xx/2013 - HU #4
L/N 79 - B-2730 – x/xx/2013 - HU #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 93 - B-2732 – x/xx/2013 - CZ #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 39 - ET-AOO – xx/xx/2013 - ET #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 100 - B-2735 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 88 - SP-LRE – 8/20/2013 – LO #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 103 - A7-BCE – x/xx/2013 - QR #7 Awaiting first flight
L/N 105 – JA832J – x/xx/2013 - JL #10 Awaiting first flight
L/N 32 - VT-ANG – x/xx/2013 - AI #10 Awaiting first flight
L/N 106 - G-TUID – x/xx/2013 – BY #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 107 - JA821A - 7/xx/2013 - NH #21 Awaiting first flight
L/N 110 - JA822A - x/xx/2013 - NH #22 Awaiting first flight
L/N 112 – EI-LNB - 7/xx/2013 - DY #2 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight
L/N 114 – G-ZBJC - x/xx/2013 - BA #3 Awaiting first flight
L/N 104 - B-2736 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #6 Awaiting first flight
L/N 115 – N961AM - 8/xx/2013 - AM #1 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight
L/N 109 - A7-BCF – x/xx/2013 - QR #8 Awaiting first flight
L/N 116 - A7-BCG – x/xx/2013 - QR #9 Awaiting first flight
L/N 117 – N29907 – x/xx/2013 – UA #7 Awaiting first flight
L/N 118 - CC-BBE - 8/xx/2013 - LA #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 121 – G-ZBJD - x/xx/2013 - BA #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 120 - JA823A - 8/xx/2013 - NH #23 Awaiting first flight
L/N 113 - CC-BBD - 8/xx/2013 - LA #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 30 - VT-ANE – x/xx/2013 - AI #11 Awaiting first flight
L/N 36 - B-2726 – x/xx/2013 – CZ #7 Awaiting first flight
L/N 122 – N????? - x/xx/2013 - AM #2 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight
 
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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:46 pm

Quoting United787 (Reply 25):
L/N 85 - B–2724 - x/xx/2013 - HU #4

The Chinese aren't making it easy on us with their regs... Not much order in the rank and file. It seems that LN 85 is actually B-2730. Whether that means that LN 79 is B-2724, i don't know...
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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:18 pm

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 26):
The Chinese aren't making it easy on us with their regs... Not much order in the rank and file. It seems that LN 85 is actually B-2730. Whether that means that LN 79 is B-2724, i don't know...
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Talk about moving target...I don't think anyone knows how they will end up until they are delivered...
 
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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:50 pm

Looks like VT-ANN came back from PAS and today its on its way back to PAE from BFI.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...2/history/20130624/1600Z/KBFI/KPAE

The flight line appears pretty full so I wonder where the will put her. AI announced new service to BHX August 1 so maybe that is what this aircraft is destined for? I have also read that VT-ANO was going to be delivered in July too so maybe it will be only one or the other? That is on its way back to Charleston from FTW:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...3/history/20130624/2130Z/KFTW/KCHS

No planned C-1 for B-2733 (LN 95)? I thought they rushed that through paint to get it ready for CZ. Thought we would see a C-1 this week.

Hands are full I guess. 4 aircraft to deliver to 3 new customers would be a solid week.

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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:06 pm

ZA243 / LN91 scheduled to fly back to CHS today:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...3/history/20130624/2130Z/KFTW/KCHS
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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:02 pm

With ZA242, ZA243 boith back at their respective delivery center site (Everett and Charleston) I wonder ig AI can pick these two up by the end of this week though it is very, VERY tight, I realize. Still......
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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:25 pm

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 30):
I wonder ig AI can pick these two up by the end of this week

Its good to see another optimist.   A had a good point though that AI tends to give notice on what the route it will be used on and the next route that I see being advertised is not until August 1st. We will see.

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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:30 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 29):
ZA243 / LN91 scheduled to fly back to CHS today:

I was wondering...SC to TX is a long way to fly for a paint job...do the pilots do any sort of testing on the way?
 
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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:37 pm

Quoting United787 (Reply 32):
SC to TX is a long way to fly for a paint job

I think one of the items involved in the $1.1 Billion SC investment involves an expansion of the paint facility so hopefully they will not have to make this flight for too many more years.

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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:03 pm

Quoting United787 (Reply 32):
I was wondering...SC to TX is a long way to fly for a paint job...do the pilots do any sort of testing on the way?

Since they're only doing one flight prior to the paint flight they should be at least checking any open squawks from the B-1 on the flight to KFTW. However, I'm guessing they probably don't have the extra personnel at KFTW to fix any squawks from the incoming flight so they can be checked on the flight back to KCHS. It all depends on the ticket they get from the FAA for the flight to paint and back. If it's under a production ticket, no problem. With a ferry permit they might be restricted from doing any testing.
 
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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:57 pm

B-2733 China Southern #2 just filed for its C1 in about one hour.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE384
Theoretically still time for a June delivery!
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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:08 pm

Anyone know anything about BA possibly delaying the delivery of their '87s due to some sort of "seat issue"?
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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:24 pm

Looks like ZA450 is going on another customer flight:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE450
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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:44 pm

Perhaps they already fixed the seat issue? Whatever it was.
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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:00 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 38):
Perhaps they already fixed the seat issue? Whatever it was.

Yeah something I saw in another thread but very, very vague.
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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:58 pm

Now 451 is planning a customer flight back to PAE as well. Interesting that it is still using a Boeing call sign.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE451

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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:59 pm

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 35):
Theoretically still time for a June delivery!

Come on lucky number 11!

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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:03 pm

I thought 451 was already delivered?
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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:14 pm

Quoting starrion (Reply 42):
I thought 451 was already delivered?

It looks a bit premature.
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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:14 pm

Our beloved Matt tweets:

"British Airways 787 G-ZBJB scheduled for delivery flight PAE to LHR Tuesday at 5 p.m."

http://twitter.com/mattcawby
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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:14 pm

Looks like ZA450 is about to fly. Listening to PAE ATC and ZA450 just took off. Perhaps the listing for BOE 451 is actually supposed to be 450 and 451 was done in error. Wouldn't have been the first time.

[Edited 2013-06-25 13:18:03]
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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:20 pm

You would not need to do another test flight if all they did was fix a seat issue right? Could it be the IFE system had to change with the seat issue and that would require a quick EWA flight? I would not think you would have to go to MWH though.

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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:22 pm

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 46):
You would not need to do another test flight if all they did was fix a seat issue right? Could it be the IFE system had to change with the seat issue and that would require a quick EWA flight? I would not think you would have to go to MWH though.

I don't think 451 is flying today except on its delivery flight later tonight. ZA450 is flying right now and Ithink someone accidently used 451 instead of 450 when the latest flightaware alert popped up.
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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:24 pm

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 47):

Gotcha. There has been a decent amount of instances of fat fingers lately.

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RE: 787 Production/ Delivery Thread Part 16

Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:54 pm

Very confusing. No longer a flight plan for ZA450 and now ZA451 looks to be doing a C-2 down the coast and back.

Nevermind

[Edited 2013-06-25 13:55:51]