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Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:54 pm

Looks like Biman are planning to retire the DC-10 at the end of November, with the last flight arriving into Dhaka on the morning of Dec 1. They are the world's last operator of the type in passenger service, which makes this a real moment of aviation history.

I will aim to be on the last flight (from Abu Dhabi) and maybe even do a trip before then as well, since it is quite cheap (fares start from around $150 one way AUH-CGP-DAC, yes you do get a 25 minute domestic leg included!). Biman is a great experience and Dhaka airport has a great four star hotel with airport views from the roof terrace - the Regency Dhaka. I will miss this when it's gone.

http://airlineroute.net/2013/06/24/bg-w13update1/

with thanks to Sam Chui (a veteran of many BG adventures!) who spotted this news article
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:14 pm

Suppose Chui has already booked?
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:19 pm

Oh this is tempting! I will have to see about this - I said I'd done my 'last' DC-10 back in 2006...


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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:30 pm

I'm trying to get myself on the last flight out of HKG on NOV29, any a.netter wanna join?

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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:01 pm

Interesting, thx for the info, I will look into this, too. TXL-AUH, on to DAC and the whole way back, sounds like a fun trip for Nov/Dec...
 
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:10 pm

My only rides on DC-10s were with Omni Air International in June 2001 BWI-FRA-KUW and Feb 2002 on World Airways from FRA to BWI to CHS. Now if only I can ride a 747 before I Die...
 
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:32 pm

I worked aboard the DC10 from 1982 until NW retired the last one on both the DC10-40 and -30's. It was a sweet airplane to work on--our only complaint being that it always flew slightly nose high so your calves always ached at the end of a trip from always walking uphill. And I will not even comment on the reliability of the lavatories! But she was a safe, reliable and tough old friend. I miss working on her.

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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:38 pm

I had the fortune of getting to fly on several NW DC-10 flights, both the 30 and 40 series. Glad I had the chance to fly on the classic tri-jet.
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:40 pm

Quoting CAMPBELL (Reply 5):
My only rides on DC-10s were with Omni Air International in June 2001 BWI-FRA-KUW and Feb 2002 on World Airways from FRA to BWI to CHS. Now if only I can ride a 747 before I Die...

My first one was HNL-LAX on NW in 1992...my last was DHF-SNN-BGR-TIK on Omni in 2011...loved the ride.
 
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:41 pm

Doesn't KLM fly DC-10's to YYZ? I coulda swore I saw them when I was there recently.

On a side note, in the early 80's, I flew a CP AIR DC-10 from YYZ-HNL-NAD.

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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:44 pm

Quoting airplaneguy (Reply 9):
Doesn't KLM fly DC-10's to YYZ?

No, they only have MD-11s.
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:54 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 10):
Quoting airplaneguy (Reply 9):
Doesn't KLM fly DC-10's to YYZ?

No, they only have MD-11s.

KLM retired their last DC-10s almost 19 years ago, December 1994.
 
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:10 pm

Worked aboard the DC-10-30 for Omni. Great aircraft. Hopefully one will be preserved in passenger configuration at one of the global aviation museums.
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:10 pm

This makes me sad to see. The DC-10 was always one of my favorites. I remember several great flights on NW metal while growing up in the mid-west. Fortunately, I have the pleasure of continuing to fly this beautiful bird as a pilot on the KC-10. Every time I take to the skies in the "ten" I can't help but think about how lucky I am to fly a plane with such an amazing heritage.
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:17 pm

Am so up for that! What routes are they currently flying? 
 
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:18 pm

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 6):
I worked aboard the DC10 from 1982 until NW retired the last one on both the DC10-40 and -30's. It was a sweet airplane to work on--our only complaint being that it always flew slightly nose high so your calves always ached at the end of a trip from always walking uphill. And I will not even comment on the reliability of the lavatories! But she was a safe, reliable and tough old friend. I miss working on her.

That aft galley sure was nosy with an engine mounted above it.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11):
KLM retired their last DC-10s almost 19 years ago, December 1994.

Your math is off. 1994 wasn't nineteen years a...

...holy crud.  Wow!

 
Quoting treebeard787 (Reply 7):
I had the fortune of getting to fly on several NW DC-10 flights, both the 30 and 40 series. Glad I had the chance to fly on the classic tri-jet.

Growing up in DTW, I had the pleasure of an awful lot of NW DC-10 flights. Even in 2002 when they were still using them transatlantic and I found myself wishing I was on a 772. A nice thing about them was that no matter where you were seated, you heard the buzzsaw at takeoff because you were always in front of at least one engine. Also, because the wings were mounted further aft than on a twin owing to the rear CG caused by the #2 engine, more seats were forward of the wing engines. Ah, the music...

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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:37 pm

I thought they were retired already. The first ride I could remember and enjoy in details was on a DC10. I might try and get one more flight...

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 15):
Your math is off. 1994 wasn't nineteen years a...

Feeling the weight of years gone by, doc?
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:43 pm

My only rides on DC-10s were with Omni Air International in June 2001 BWI-FRA-KUW and Feb 2002 on World Airways from FRA to BWI to CHS. Now if only I can ride a 747 before I Die...

I take it you were military. I flew the "Cattle Car" World Airways DC10 to my first duty station, PHL to MHZ (EGUN) with a stop in Gander. I did take leave and flew on a KC10 from MHZ to CHS. I thought that was a pretty nice ride. It was a lot more comfortable than the C141 I could have flown out on.

Now that I think about it my last ride in a DC10 was NW from FRA to DTW when I left Germany in '98.
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:46 pm

Quoting YLWbased (Reply 3):
'm trying to get myself on the last flight out of HKG on NOV29, any a.netter wanna join?

That is the easiest option for me, I'll see if I can justify it - it's been a big year for flying. I'd love to.
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:09 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11):
KLM retired their last DC-10s almost 19 years ago, December 1994.
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 15):
Your math is off. 1994 wasn't nineteen years a...

...holy crud.  

My thought exactly…
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:17 am

I worked one of our last DC-10-30ER trips from BOM to AMS. About 15 minutes after takeoff we were just starting our beverage service (at 0145 local!) and most everyone was asleep already. I had just asked the first awake passenger if they would like something to drink in BC when we heard (and felt) the #1 engine surge and felt the airplane skewing to the right. I looked up at my colleague across the aisle and she mouthed the silent words to me "What the f**k!" All you heard was the snapping of the brakes on the beverage carts and eight sets of feet moving quickly towards the front of the airplane. I went into the cockpit (as purser) and, as I had figured, we had blown the #3 engine. The passengers noticed NOTHING! Flight attendants know the normal sounds of flight and we pick up INSTANTLY when something changes. The captain told me he was not going to say anything yet as we were dumping fuel (we joked that there would be no mosquitoes left in that part of India) and would wait until we had reduced to a safe landing weight. Meanwhile, we just stowed the equipment and prepared the airplane for landing.

Eventually, as we were descending, the captain came on the PA and told the passengers that we had a mechanical issue and were returning to BOM. No drama, no panic. I stationed the flight attendants throughout the cabin looking nonchalant and then gradually turned up the lights. Everyone was pretty cool about it (except for a few flight attendants that had child care issues and would be delayed returning home). Of course, the flight cancelled and everyone went to hotels....at about 0700 local. We were exhausted but the end result was that the DC-10 did its job well and everyone was safe and sound.

Thus was my final DC-10 trip....kind of appropriate, I think. The airplane was finally retired about three days later. She was one tough old bird but I never had any doubt about its safety or reliability.
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:35 am

I worked as a flight instructor at LGB across the field from the McD-D plant while the DC-10 was in pre-certification flight test. We watched as the unpainted prototype made a "max effort" landing on rwy 30, and stopped short of the intersection of 25L, a distance of about 3,200 feet.

On an August day in 1971, the first two DC-10s were delivered to customers, one to AA, one to UAL. Though it was the middle of the week, Douglas factory workers, given the day off for the event, lined the airport perimeter. VIPs were shuttled out to rwy 12/30 for a close-up look at the take-offs. The whole airport had an air-show feel to it that day. At the appointed time after the ceremonies and speeches on the Douglas ramp, the AA airplane trundled out to rwy 12 and launched into the summer haze, to the 'oohs' and 'ahhs' of the assembled multitudes (we'd been watching these things in flight test for months; no big deal).

Then the UAL aircraft took the runway. It accelerated ... rotated ... then the nosewheel came back down, spoilers and reversers deployed, and the airplane ignominiously rolled out to the end of the runway, as VIPs nervously looked around and stood on one foot then the other. I was never told for sure, but rumor had it the captain's cockpit window was not properly latched.

Thus began the DC-10's career.
 
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:31 am

Wow a DC-10 still in pax service? The last DC-10 out of AFO was operated by NW on the SFO-NRT route. When they replaced it with an A330 I knew I'd never see that classic bird again  
 
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:30 am

Quoting Pilawt (Reply 21):
I worked as a flight instructor at LGB across the field from the McD-D plant while the DC-10 was in pre-certification flight test. We watched as the unpainted prototype made a "max effort" landing on rwy 30, and stopped short of the intersection of 25L, a distance of about 3,200 feet.

On an August day in 1971, the first two DC-10s were delivered to customers, one to AA, one to UAL. Though it was the middle of the week, Douglas factory workers, given the day off for the event, lined the airport perimeter. VIPs were shuttled out to rwy 12/30 for a close-up look at the take-offs. The whole airport had an air-show feel to it that day. At the appointed time after the ceremonies and speeches on the Douglas ramp, the AA airplane trundled out to rwy 12 and launched into the summer haze, to the 'oohs' and 'ahhs' of the assembled multitudes (we'd been watching these things in flight test for months; no big deal).

Then the UAL aircraft took the runway. It accelerated ... rotated ... then the nosewheel came back down, spoilers and reversers deployed, and the airplane ignominiously rolled out to the end of the runway, as VIPs nervously looked around and stood on one foot then the other. I was never told for sure, but rumor had it the captain's cockpit window was not properly latched.

Thus began the DC-10's career.

So true ... they seemed cursed for at least a decade. I did not fly them until the 80's, by which time they had settled into being reliable workhorses. Even so, I never particularly liked the design of the tail, and the plane didn't inspire much confidence in me.
 
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:23 am

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 6):
Have an honorable retirement, old friend. You have earned it.

Much more likely to be ripped to pieces and carted off to a junkyard........ Oh sorry, did they tell you they went to a nice new home in the country with big fields and lots of animals to play with?   
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:07 am

And my first DC-10 trip was on July 25, 1973! American Airlines from LGA to BUF. We taxied out to the runway three times, only to find the brakes locked for the takeoff roll. Full throttle, no forward movement. Major delays. Finally took off on the third try.

I remember the FAs muttering, "give us back the 727."
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Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:02 am

I'm not sure if it is an urban myth but I recall being told by some ex Air NZ staff that the very nose-up attitude of the DC10 was something that Air NZ discovered. MCD published the trim manuals for a much flatter inflight attitude but Air NZ worked out by trimming the a/c with a ore nose-up attitude it made several percent savings in fuel. Anyone can corroborate this?
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:19 am

I'd like to fly the DC10 again but I'm not sure if I fancy over-nighting in Bangladesh.

I flew the VIASA DC10 from Caracas to Heathrow many years ago. I remember the poor bird didn't have the legs to get it all the way across and we had to make a stop en-route to refuel.

What are the routes they currently fly their DC10s on?
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:31 am

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 14):
Am so up for that! What routes are they currently flying?
Quoting babybus (Reply 27):
What are the routes they currently fly their DC10s on?

All flights between Bangladesh and Abu Dhabi are DC-10, and every Fri it goes DAC-DOH-DXB-CGP-DAC, arriving CGP on Sat morning and the domestic leg is in daylight. Flights are cheap and easy to book on the airline's website, biman-airlines.com, which shows aircraft type. If the type changes, it will show when you check back, and the airline will refund or rebook on a different route at no charge or just the difference in fare (which happened to me when DAC-KUL turned from 747 to A310, I explained to their London office I was in it for the type and they were happy to change my flight to HKG and I only paid the small difference in fare, no change fee for a complete reroute). The DC-10 also does most DAC-HKG flights, which is a daylight sector and also worth a look cos the heavy iron is mostly deployed for it's cargo capacity, there is rarely more than 100 punters so you'll have the plane to yourself.

Quoting babybus (Reply 27):
I'd like to fly the DC10 again but I'm not sure if I fancy over-nighting in Bangladesh.

Bangladesh is a very nice country to visit, super poor and doesn't exactly look like Norway but everyone you will meet is super kind and charming. Anyway you really don't need to go into town, stay at the Regency Dhaka which is a short shuttle bus ride from the terminal and enjoy the airport view from the roof terrace by the pool and enjoy some chicken wings and a coke. The restaurant has a mega buffet and the spa is first rate. Air traffic at DAC is fascinating, MiG-29s and Chinese-built MiG-21s compete with Saudia 747s, BA 747-800s, lots of other heavies (Gulf traffic and charters) and cargo stuff, and local A310s and Mad Dogs and a few DC-10s every day - amazing!

Quoting babybus (Reply 27):
I flew the VIASA DC10 from Caracas to Heathrow many years ago. I remember the poor bird didn't have the legs to get it all the way across and we had to make a stop en-route to refuel.

Where?
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:54 am

Hmm, I might look into this, 150$ is cheap enough, I also don´t fancy staying over in DAC so if a same day way out can be managed, then great!

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 28):
Where?

Tenerife, or Madeira I´d guess  

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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:57 am

Quoting cedarjet (Thread starter):
http://airlineroute.net/2013/06/24/bg-w13update1/

with thanks to Sam Chui (a veteran of many BG adventures!) who spotted this news article

I thought that site is as popular as a.net, and the news must have seen by all, apparently not.

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 20):

That's your second engine problem incident out of Bombay, besides the A330 bird strike.
 
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:23 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 30):
I thought that site is as popular as a.net, and the news must have seen by all, apparently not.

I've never heard of it before!

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 29):
I also don´t fancy staying over in DAC

You're missing out - the Regency is a great property and the traffic at DAC is really unique. Don't be shy, you'll love it.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 29):
if a same day way out can be managed, then great!

If you must deny yourself one of the true spotting paradises of the world, arrive from Abu Dhabi on the morning of a Hong Kong flight (which is only once or twice a week, but I'm sure they connect) and you'll have about a five hour wait airside in a reasonably pleasant terminal. The transit desk is very efficient at issuing boarding passes for onward connections and are responsive to specific seating requests. You can pay $20 to use the American Express lounge which is quite nice although proceed with caution at the buffet.

Btw for most nationals, Bangladesh is visa on arrival, costs about $50 although it depends on the country, some are less, and I guess some (India, Nepal et al) don't need a visa at all. Takes about a minute to do, no issues.
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:25 am

I think the words "before it falls out the sky" need to be added to the original article. It would be interesting to see how many cycles the remaining Biman DC10s have done. The aircraft are betwwen 25 to 30 years of age. The phrase 'clapped out' springs to mind.
 
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:56 am

Last DC-10 hop? Probably Northwest Airlines DTW-CDG, ca 2004 ah man those were good times..
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:13 am

Quoting G-CIVP (Reply 32):
It would be interesting to see how many cycles the remaining Biman DC10s have done.

Unfortunately I can't access the system at the moment as I am underway, but in early 2010 after a ride on S2-ACQ I had checked the Biman DC-10s and extracted the following stats:

S2-ACO: built 03.10.1978 / FHs: 105'556 / Cycles: 28’760
S2-ACP: built 08.02.1979 / FHs: 103’884 / Cycles: 28’161
S2-ACQ: built 10.09.1979 / FHs: 103’984 / Cycles: 28’170 [Retired]
S2-ACR: built 10.09.1988 / FHs: 76’097 / Cycles: 19’475

I had the pleasure of flying onboard ACQ and ACP, both in the cockpit.

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It is a highly recommended trip. I have been there twice, once in transit to HKG on ACQ in late 2009 and as recently as December 2012 I spent 6 days in Bangladesh, mainly to visit the ship breakup yard in Chittagong which is fascinating but also for another DC-10 ride of course which turned out to be ACP.

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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:30 am

Oh, this thread has grown into something very melancholic. I worked for CO (DC10-10 Pub / -30) AA (-30 with leather & sheepskin seats) and NW (-40 & -30ER). Loved "The Pub"!

The fondest memories of my airline career were rides in the jumpseat on takeoff from HNL & SYD. Panoramic views seated next to a window several feet tall! Incredible! Even in the main cabin the windows are LARGE. Such a nice aircraft to fly in.

Quoting pa747sp (Reply 26):
I'm not sure if it is an urban myth but I recall being told by some ex Air NZ staff that the very nose-up attitude of the DC10 was something that Air NZ discovered. MCD published the trim manuals for a much flatter inflight attitude but Air NZ worked out by trimming the a/c with a ore nose-up attitude it made several percent savings in fuel. Anyone can corroborate this?

True. As a load planner we were instructed to trim the aircraft as rear as possible to the aft limit for fuel savings. Sometimes not easy with 13000lbs hanging on the tail!

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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:06 pm

How many are still flying?.

I understood that S2-ACO/ACP were flying, with S2-ACQ being retained as a spares ship, and S2-ACR in active storage.
 
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:13 pm

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 36):

Correct, when I flew on ACP the crew said ACR would return to service shortly. Not sure if this happened though. Airfleets.net lists ACR as still being in storage though this is the youngest airframe with only 25y of age.

For their current schedule I don't think they need more than 2 airframes.

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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:21 pm

Used to fly DC-10 on CO & NW frequently. I always loved those planes. There was nothing like sitting near the tail engine during a takeoff. And for my part flying was fun back then.

I'd like to get one more ride. Maybe I can do that late Nov flight. Pity it's all Y!
 
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:29 pm

Quoting treebeard787 (Reply 7):
I had the fortune of getting to fly on several NW DC-10 flights, both the 30 and 40 series. Glad I had the chance to fly on the classic tri-jet.
Quoting awacsooner (Reply 8):
My first one was HNL-LAX on NW in 1992

My first flight on a DC-10 was NW also, Aug 1979, this was during the grounding of the DC-10s after the tragic AA incident at ORD. We were told by NW that their DC-10's were not grounded as they operated with a different engine type. So even though that flight was only PDX-SEA, connecting to a 747 onto HNL, every minute of that flight I watched that engine to keep it on, as a kid your mind can go wild. My last was 11/15/98 on CO Mike HNL-LAX a redeye landing on 11/16/98. Good bye friend.
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:55 pm

It would be great to get on the last flight.

However, there are numerous factors that I will need to check out before deciding.
 
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:10 pm

I will always kick myself for not ponying up more $ for the non-stop LAS-ORD UA flight June 2000..


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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:39 pm

DC-10s were my favorite "ride" for many years.

My first DC-10 trip was into DFW on AA for an interview with AA. As I recall, the return trip was so smooth, that it startled me awake at one point. That may sound strange, but there didn't seem to be any of the normal vibration at that moment.

I remember some trips on UA/NW/HA/CO DC-10s, too. A great machine, no doubt, and also had one of the best flight deck jumpseats, too.
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:28 pm

Quoting viscount630 (Reply 24):
Much more likely to be ripped to pieces and carted off to a junkyard........ Oh sorry, did they tell you they went to a nice new home in the country with big fields and lots of animals to play with?

Now why in the world would you make such a mean-spirited comment like that? I have seen them scrapped--I and every other NW employee has a desk ornament that was made from one of our 747-200 aircraft and sent to us as a thank you for a job well done. Aircraft N622US to be exact.

Obviously you are not a serious airline enthusiast like most a.netters. If you can't say something nice........
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:28 am

Here's a commercial from 1971 describing "the world's newest jet plane, United's DC-10".   

Those were certainly the days... Enjoy  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta3Z0XlknPc
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:31 am

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 40):
However, there are numerous factors that I will need to check out before deciding.

lol no kidding!

I have flown over to the EU a couple of times for these a.nutter "flights of fancy" so to say. Great fun but times are different now and I don't think my soon to be wife will approve  

"Honey, I'd like to book AUS-IAH-DXB and stay with a relative for a couple of days in Dubai after which I'll take a shuttle to Abu Dhabi from where I will fly AUH-CGP-DAC on a 33 year old airliner of a third world country. After which I'll either return westbound to the US or keep going eastbound, something like DAC-HKG on that same 3rd world airline and then something like HKG-ORD-AUS on some combination of One World using my AA miles."

"No? But it would be such fun, and when am I ever going to fly the DC-10 again?"

"Will you at least think about it for a day or two?"
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:33 am

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 43):
I and every other NW employee has a desk ornament that was made from one of our 747-200 aircraft

Wow, I'm so jealous. I flew TPAC so many times on NW 742s & clearly remember my last NW 742 flight SEA-NRT. Upstairs on those birds was wonderful. NW did a very nice job fitting new interiors at some point.
 
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:00 pm

Quoting terminalc (Reply 46):
Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 43):
I and every other NW employee has a desk ornament that was made from one of our 747-200 aircraft

Wow, I'm so jealous

When I was at the Delta Museum,they were selling them in the L1011 store. Maybe they have some left online.
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:51 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 30):

That's your second engine problem incident out of Bombay, besides the A330 bird strike.

That is so true. For some reason BOM and I seem to have issues. Actually, it is sort of my third--I got stranded there for a week when the volcano blew in Iceland. But then all European air traffic was shut down.

Thankfully, I missed the terror attack on the Hotel Oberoi but many of my friends did not. Boy, do they have some stories to tell!
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RE: Last DC-10 Pax Flight Ever: 1 Dec 2013

Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:43 am

I hear horror stories of BG delays... I am currently planning a trip which would include DXB-DAC-HKG, with the DC10 on the second sector, with 4 hour layover in DAC. How much risk is there of missing the connection in DAC?

I'd hate to miss out, given I'd be flying all the way from Australia for this!