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Turkish Aviation July 2013

Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:05 pm

Merhaba everyone.

Welcome to the July summer edition of the Turkish aviation thread.


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Some highlights from the last month:

o THY for the 3rd year running crowned as the "Best Airline in Europe by Skytrax. Also won best business class catering, and best airline in Southern Europe.      
o TK growth continued with new cities of Al-Qassim, Marseille, Constanta, Tallinn, Vilnius and Luxemburg commenced in June
o TK announced lease of 3 ex Gulf Air A330-200s.
o New Japan bilateral agreed, allowing TK to grow Japan flights from current 14 weekly at 2 service points to 42 weekly at 5 service points
o TK formally confirmed what was long rumored, Comfort Class will be removed as newly ordered 77Ws arrive in 2014. TK will further improve is Business product.
o Expansion to Americas will be a focus in 2014 for TK - IST-CCS-BOG and IST-HAV-MEX routes planned plus one or two more cities in the US.
o TK further expands its SAW service with 3 new German routes. Daily to DUS, FRA and MUC effective this coming winter.
o Charter operator Sky Airlines filed bankruptcy and shut down. It had been having difficulties since its primary tour operator went out of business.
o ACT leases its 2 747 freighters to Saudia
o Pegasus signs for 737NG C-heavy checks in Bulgaria by Lufthansa Technik
o Atlasjet Iraqi venture Zargos Air awaits its own AOC and will use single leased Atlasjet A321 from its Erbil base.
o TAV won $400mil contract to build a 100,000sq meter terminal in Riyadh


Lets discuss !
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:45 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
o TK announced lease of 3 ex Gulf Air A330-200s.

Good news. Will they be refurbished to meet actual TK standards? What is the interior of the ex-QR A332s that joins a few years ago?

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
New Japan bilateral agreed, allowing TK to grow Japan flights from current 14 weekly at 2 service points to 42 weekly at 5 service points

NRT is going 14w in autumn. Which are the next destinations to be launched?

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
Expansion to Americas will be a focus in 2014 for TK - IST-CCS-BOG and IST-HAV-MEX routes planned plus one or two more cities in the US.

Amazing development. TK has to grow their americas network. On the other hand the downgraded IST-GRU-EZE from the B77W to a A343...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:13 pm

Does anybody knows for how long the Jet Air 777W are leased.
I noticed that my next few trips from IST to BKK are changed to the leased 777W with the staggered business class seats.
I'm happy with this as the A343 business class seat is not the best at this moment.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:49 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
o TK announced lease of 3 ex Gulf Air A330-200s.

Also they intend to lease some A320. Someone mentioned they will join Anadolujets fleet.

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 1):
On the other hand the downgraded IST-GRU-EZE from the B77W to a A343...

Overall it will be an increase in capacity. They went from 4weekly 77W to daily A340
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:36 am

Quoting thaiflyer (Reply 2):
I noticed that my next few trips from IST to BKK are changed to the leased 777W with the staggered business class seats.

VT-JEN is currently doing LHR/DXB runs back and forth. Last week I was onboard to DXB and can definately confirm the added comfort of the business seats. in fact, I could sleep from take-off until touchdown

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
Also won best business class catering, and best airline in Southern Europe

congrats for having the best business food. if I'm not mistaken they were first in economy catering for some years. maybe a sign that they have to redesign that concept too, because for more than two years when I fly to Europe I almost every time get the same.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:25 am

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):

With regards to Japan which other cities is TK likely to fly to and how soon will TK make the decision? Do they have enough frames or is 2014 more likely?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:00 am

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 1):
Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
o TK announced lease of 3 ex Gulf Air A330-200s.

Good news. Will they be refurbished to meet actual TK standards? What is the interior of the ex-QR A332s that joins a few years ago?

They should be ... I've flown on the GF 332s many times. They are clean, but ancient! The seats or the IFE don't even come close to TK standards. Even their business class products can't match TK's comfort class. I hope they are refurbished, otherwise passengers on some routes will be royally pissed!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:30 am

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 1):
Good news. Will they be refurbished to meet actual TK standards? What is the interior of the ex-QR A332s that joins a few years ago?

Considering they will be on lease for 6-year period, at some point the cabins certainly will be modified to match.

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 1):
Which are the next destinations to be launched?

TK Japan manager says NGO, FUK, HND
THY Looks To Add NGO, FUK And HND (by LAXintl Jun 11 2013 in Civil Aviation)

Quoting thaiflyer (Reply 2):
Does anybody knows for how long the Jet Air 777W are leased.

Per stock market filings the leases were for 12-14 month periods. So they should run through July-September'ish 2014.

Basically these frames hold TK until the 15 new 77Ws start arriving in 2014.

Quoting tkfan (Reply 3):
Also they intend to lease some A320. Someone mentioned they will join Anadolujets fleet.

320 from Gulf Air also?
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:53 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
320 from Gulf Air also?

I dont know if ex-Gulf Air 320, but also for six years like the 330. Two in total

from the filing to Borsa Istanbul

"...
25.06.2013

Our Incorporatiın has decided to lease 1 A320-200 aircraft from Wells Fargo Bank Northwest, National Association for the duration of 6 years.

19.06.2013

The Incorporation has decided to lease 3 A330-200 aircraft from Wilmington Trust SP Services (Dublin) Limited and 1 A320-200 aircraft from Wells Fargo Bank Northwest National Association for the duration of 6 years.

..."
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:02 am

where is TK787 wasn't he to start this topic?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:14 am

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
TK announced lease of 3 ex Gulf Air A330-200s

These three frames have already been registered as TC-JNU, TC-JNV and TC-JNY apparently for line numbers 527, 529 and 532 respectively.

Quoting tkfan (Reply 3):
Also they intend to lease some A320
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
320 from Gulf Air also?

Planespotters indicates that an ex TACA frame is to join the TK fleet. Line number 1624 is to be registered TC-JBO.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:54 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):

Considering they will be on lease for 6-year period, at some point the cabins certainly will be modified to match.



This may not happen..

Fleet becomes "aşure", and it is very expensive keep the cabin fresh. You cant imagine how expensive is a small plastic part of seat.

And 3rd wet leased 777 is arrived painted; VT-JEP. VT-JEM was painted, still performing incoming inspection. will see which stations get these birds... Nowadays TK birds go ESB and ADB on morning flights, instead sitting on tarmac until they depart to north American bank.

And have heard rumors ORD will be double daily soon  

Construction begun on military side of Ataturk airport, some bunkers is demolishing. They are building some cargo area at the end of runway to clear mess on cargo terminal.

Regarding to 3 rd airport construction, there are still some grey clouds. CV of construction still trying to find funds, but I highly doubt they can finish first phase in 2018. TK should really consider A380 order with this delay. Ataturk may not be 380 ready but gates and taxiways may redone and 380 will add required capacity for constant growth.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:17 am

The 3 ex GF A332s are actually originally MEA A330s with 42J / 208Y configuration with a hopeless business class product where as Y class is just about ok.

They will not be with TK in the current state nor configuration as I read on this website 3 weeks ago that these 3 jets are being refurbished in USA to meet TK's standards and after completion shall be delivered.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:45 pm

Quoting MeCe (Reply 11):
Construction begun on military side of Ataturk airport, some bunkers is demolishing. They are building some cargo area at the end of runway to clear mess on cargo terminal.

Regarding to 3 rd airport construction, there are still some grey clouds. CV of construction still trying to find funds, but I highly doubt they can finish first phase in 2018. TK should really consider A380 order with this delay. Ataturk may not be 380 ready but gates and taxiways may redone and 380 will add required capacity for constant growth.

great to hear the military areas are finally being integrated into IST use ....

personally, i think it will probably be 2020 before the new airport gets functional ... so new capacity at IST is critical for maintaining TK's explosive growth. The new 333s are starting to come this year (and 77Ws next year) right?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:05 pm

Hello everyone,

I would like to thank LAXintl for starting July thread. I might not contribute often but I enjoy reading the discussions.

There were gossips about TK and LH join venture/partnership/increased connection/etc... Any news on that side? LH was having big troubles a year ago and I can imagine it was more likely to look for radical/new solutions to solve problems. I believe LH started to see the light at the end of the tunnel after the last improvements and decisions taken by the governing bodies. It looks like an agreement between two carriers for an improved cooperation has a lower chance than last year.

Rights to operate six daily flights to Japan is amazing and I would like to see how it will be utilized.

It is great to see all contributing members as usual.

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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:47 pm

I read the first Turkish Technic manufactured seat has been delivered to TK and is awaiting certification.

Carrier plans to retrofit the new economy seats later this year into 25 B737-800 aircraft.

In addition to TK, they also seek to sell the seats to other airlines, and are developing another version for longhaul travel and eventually a business class seat.

http://blog.apex.aero/cabin-interior...manufacturer-plans-sales-airlines/

Quoting tkfan (Reply 8):
from the filing to Borsa Istanbul

Thanks. One gets dizzy keeping track of the narrow body fleet changes.
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:53 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 9):
where is TK787 wasn't he to start this topic?

Traditionally LAXintl is the one who starts this thread monthly...

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 1):
Good news. Will they be refurbished to meet actual TK standards? What is the interior of the ex-QR A332s that joins a few years ago?

Looking back at the leases in the past (TG 77Ws, QR332s, Meridiana 332s, LX/EZ 320s), none of those frames got the interior to match TK standards but Gulfair frames seem to be leased for 6 years so they may as well be refurbished... They will need this extra capacity on long haul routes as well so it makes sense...

Having recently moved to Washington DC, I am waiting TK to change the AC on IST-IAD to 333 or 77W now... I am currently holding 2 return tickets and hoping for an aircraft change... 343s in Y arent all that bad though...
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:31 pm

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 16):
Traditionally LAXintl is the one who starts this thread monthly...

I have only seen TK787 do it.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:29 pm

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 16):
Looking back at the leases in the past (TG 77Ws, QR332s, Meridiana 332s, LX/EZ 320s), none of those frames got the interior to match TK standards but Gulfair frames seem to be leased for 6 years so they may as well be refurbished... They will need this extra capacity on long haul routes as well so it makes sense...




As you mentioned, leased frames never got before heavy modification for have standard (actually TK 's own fleet has no standard) interior. Keeping cabin fresh is expensive work but making a whole cabin like your own product is completely different story. These planes generally used as feeder planes, for make TK's own long haul birds free for long haul operations.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:00 pm

Are there only 4 TK A321 aircraft with AVOD in Y? Where are these mainly used? Randomly or on longer routes. I had the "luxury" of one flying back to TXL a few months ago and was wondering what my chances are on my next BRU-IST-BJV-IST-TXL trip in September... For BRU-IST and IST-TXL A321 are in the booking system but who knows on the day...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:09 pm

any word if TK will try and expand in India again? I know the tourism minsters had the meeting months and months ago but nothing came of it....
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:37 am

Quoting tolmachevo (Reply 19):

No, there are around 20, from TC-JRN until TC-JS...
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:00 am

Quoting tolmachevo (Reply 19):
Quoting Steelyman (Reply 21):

...and also all 739 which have been often swapped for 321 - atleast on my trips.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 15):

any picture available of the new seat?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:33 pm

LAXintl, thank you as always for starting the thread.

-TK announces serving domestic destinations Sirnak and Bingol. Totaling, 38 Domestic destinations??
-Aqaba goes up to 5 x weekly, Hurghada and Sharm el Sheik goes daily starting Nov.
http://kokpit.aero/thy-kis-tarifesinde-sefer-arttiriyor
-Also, I know he is too busy these days, but a.net member "Wing" was in Hamburg last week, receiving the latest THY A321, TC-JSJ. Maybe he can chime in here to tell about his experience.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:56 pm

I hear Hong Kong Airlines has applied to serve Istanbul using dual class A330. Though I heard it might route via Almaty Kazakhstan.

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 22):
any picture available of the new seat?

Not very detailed, but here you go. Though I am not 100% certain this is the final finished product.



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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:01 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 23):
-Aqaba goes up to 5 x weekly, Hurghada and Sharm el Sheik goes daily starting Nov.

Welcome back   SSH seems to be popular still despite issues in other Egyptian cities. Hopefully it stays that way.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 24):
Not very detailed, but here you go. Though I am not 100% certain this is the final finished product.

If they turn out like those in the images they look quite comfortable and nice.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:16 pm

More records being set....
In June Antalya set a new monthly passenger record of 1.62mil, and on June 29th also broke its movement record achieving 937 aircraft.
All the more impressive as the new nearby Alanya airport is now operating and bleeding traffic away with 8 airlines operating there already.


Also Turkey and Algeria just announced a new bilateral. Turkish carriers will be given access to 4 more cities in Algeria (Batna, Constantine, Oran, Tlemcen). Total allowed weekly frequencies for each side will rise to 35 passenger flights, and 7 cargo service.
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:01 am

I believe that TK stops with the BKK - SGN flight (TK-68) from 1 November.
Therefore the TK-68 will only operate the IST - BKK leg.
Does anybody knows if the departure times from IST and BKK will change and if so what the new departure will be.
As usual Turkish Airlines does not provide any solid information.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:13 am

Quoting thaiflyer (Reply 27):
I believe that TK stops with the BKK - SGN flight (TK-68) from 1 November

That's the first I hear about that and so far the SGN flights are still open for booking. The only change that will happen is that from 01OCT the IST BKK SGN route reverts to A343 from the current B77W. It seems that the aircraft is swapped with the IST GRU EZE route which will operate with B77W from October onwards.
 
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Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:56 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 26):
Also Turkey and Algeria just announced a new bilateral. Turkish carriers will be given access to 4 more cities in Algeria (Batna, Constantine, Oran, Tlemcen). Total allowed weekly frequencies for each side will rise to 35 passenger flights, and 7 cargo service.

I saw that IST-ALG is a daily A333. I believe that they go 2daily and downgrade the aircraft to narrowbody and free the A333.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 7):
TK Japan manager says NGO, FUK, HND

In that case TK would be the european airline with the most Japan destinations.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:04 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):

Thanks for the new thread.

Passenger numbers for June13 has been announced by DHMI. IST continues its perfect performance. ESB is also performing very well. It is quite probable that both ESB and ADB will surpass 10M annual passenger numbers.

I had a day return trip to MUC by LH. Early morning flight for ESB-MUC was half empty but evening flight for MUC-ESB was completely packed. Though I was traveling in Y, on MUC-ESB route I was shocked when FA asked me what I would like to drink by calling my last name. Quite impressive. Probably LH is targeting TK EP card holders!

Passenger composition on LH MUC-ESB flights are Turkish people traveling to Americas as well as usual Turkish Diaspora and European Businessmen.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:06 pm

Speaking about LH and Ankara, they announced last month they were dropping FRA-ESB effective September 12.
MUC-ESB remain 2x daily.

Quoting TK105 (Reply 30):
Passenger numbers for June13 has been announced by DHMI. IST continues its perfect performance.

   yes another record month all around.

I heard the Ministry of Transport estimated they 2013 would see 140 million trips taken in Turkey. Up from almost 130mil individual trips in 2012. Pretty amazing that back in 2003 prior to deregulation the count was under 30 million !

Also according to HUBroutes stats, the Istanbul market alone grew at whopping 71.3% in mere 3-years since July 2010.
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:36 am

This evening was perfect for some plane spotting up in Northern Connecticut.
First one I saw JFK-WAW LO 767, second I wasn't sure but yes, very happy to spot TK7 IST-IAD flying at 40,000 feet.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:17 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 31):

LH operates FRA ESB during summer timetable only. This year they will cease service mid-September instead of end of October. The service will be reinstated again in April 2014.

TK also started to operate ESB FRA that they operated by AJet before and this may be a reason for early suspension this term by LH. Another point to note is that AC and UA now fly direct to IST and offer codeshare connection to ESB for IST by TK. Both UA and AC used LH for their codeshare flights to/from ESB and North America before. This is a likely loss of premium pax by LH on FRA ESB sector.

LH also upgraded MUC ESB to A321 since two years now so 2 x 321 is also quite a capacity increase.

Last but not least there is significant growth in ESB Germany traffic for the obvious reasons as usual but with increased frequencies and stiff competiton by several LC carriers.

LH is also reviewing a third daily MUC ESB from summer 2014.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:35 am

How is IAH doing? They're filing some obscene fares undercutting everyone from LHR to BOM and everywhere in between, which would lead me to believe it's not doing well.
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Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:47 am

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 34):

How is IAH doing? They're filing some obscene fares undercutting everyone from LHR to BOM and everywhere in between, which would lead me to believe it's not doing well.

I had a trip to BLR-IAH in May and another in June, and both times TK was much costlier than the competition (even when looking at the fares ex-BOM/DEL).

I just checked fares, and BOM-IST on TK is quoting INR64K (Jul 17 - 31), compared to 73K on EK and 85K on LH. So definitely a fare sale/ drop going on...

[Edited 2013-07-08 04:52:15]
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:31 pm

I'll be visiting Istanbul fairly shortly and wish to have a few hours watching the movements at IST (I don't take photos or registrations). Would you recommend the terminal (landside/airside) or FlyInn? If the latter, how much would you say a taxi would cost from Sultanamet and would the driver find it OK? Thanks for your help.
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:40 pm

Some good news for Russia air links.

Russia side has agreed to double designation of carriers on routes, and accordingly has authorized Transaero schedule rights to Antalya and Istanbul. While Transaero last year carried 1mil passengers to Turkey, this was all under charter authority, but the carrier will now be able to link Moscow to both Antalya and Istanbul with 7 weekly frequencies each operated as a scheduled flight.

This bodes good news for other Turkish carriers. For instance Pegasus has to date be shut out of the large Russia market due to the single designation restriction which saw only TK be able to represent the Turkish side.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 34):
How is IAH doing?

Loads are decent

First 2-months were 78.1% with about a 60/40 Houston point of sale split. They just also added 2 more weekly frequencies this week for the remainder of the season.

But keep in mind, TK does not really make money on longhauls on stand alone basis. Most of the network is a loss leader but provides incredible connectivity to the bread and butter European and regional network.
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:14 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 37):
provides incredible connectivity to the bread and butter European and regional network.

At around $800rt all in, these fares are certainly not covering the segment let alone the beyond portion.
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:40 pm

Quoting Nimish (Reply 35):

I had a trip to BLR-IAH in May and another in June, and both times TK was much costlier than the competition (even when looking at the fares ex-BOM/DEL).

I just checked fares, and BOM-IST on TK is quoting INR64K (Jul 17 - 31), compared to 73K on EK and 85K on LH. So definitely a fare sale/ drop going on...

how about fares from BLR-IAH? I am assuming that fare would include the cost of the AI connection to BOM.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:41 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 36):
how much would you say a taxi would cost from Sultanamet and would the driver find it OK?

Cab drivers might not be able to locate easily. Come prepared with a smart phone or a printout. From SultanAhmet to Flyinn should be around $30-40. Flyinn is a very nice location to spot. When done, a quick hop to the terminals. Bon Voyage!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:12 pm

A TK flight to BOM diverted to KHI few days back due to medical emergency was it a 777?
 
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Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:45 pm

Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 39):
how about fares from BLR-IAH? I am assuming that fare would include the cost of the AI connection to BOM.

Did not show up on ITA Matrix for some reason. I had to explicitly search for BOM-IAH to find TK!
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:35 pm

ESB new hangars are ready and waiting for governmental A332. When is it coming?



Today I had another day return trip to SAW with Anadolujet operated by XQ. I would like to ask to our experts on this form: Unlike TK, XQ pilots uses around 60 to 80% power while take off and once plane climbs to around 1000ft, pilot applies full power to engines. What are the reasons for this practice?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:25 pm

Interesting figures from TK witth regards the make up of its Pilots.

Non Turkish Pilots as follows :

Total 357

53 Greeks / 43 Spanish / 42 Italians / 27 Germans / 16 English / 16 Australians / 14 French.

2229 Pilots work at TK in total.

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Οι Έλληνες πιλότοι απογειώνουν τις Τουρκικές Αερογραμμές

Σύμφωνα με τα στοιχεία των Τουρκικών Αερογραμμών που δημοσιεύει η εφημερίδα Habertürk, το μεγαλύτερο ποσοστό των ξένων κυβερνητών στις Τουρκικές Αερεογραμμές, είναι Έλληνες!
Στην εταιρεία σήμερα απασχολούνται 357 ξένοι πιλότοι απ’αυτούς οι 53 είναι Έλληνες, οι 43 Ισπανοί και οι 42 Ιταλοί.

http://www.turkishgreeknews.org/oi-e...s-toyrkikes-aerogrammes/10355.html

Türk Hava Yolları'nda Yunan pilot sayısı arttı

Haberturk'ten Gökhan Artan'ın haberine göre 41 ülkeden 357 yabancı pilotun istihdam edildiği şirkette çalışan Yunan pilot sayısı 53'e ulaşarak rekor kırdı. Ekonomik krizdeki AB ülkelerinden İspanya 43 pilotla ikinci sırada. İspanyolları 42 pilotla da İtalyanlar takip ediyor. Kurumda 1 Nisan itibarıyla toplam 2 bin 229 Türk pilot uçuyor.

http://www.turkishgreeknews.org/tr/t...unan-pilot-sayisi-artti/10350.html

With lack of Pilot jobs at home Greeks have opted for TK and IST due to its easy access for commuting between ATH and IST.
 
debonair
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:13 pm

I just heard rumors, that SAGA AIRLINES returned their sole A320 after Ghadames Air Transport took delivery of an own A320.

AFAIK, a Turkish AOC is only issued to airlines with 3 or more aircrafts - SAGA now cuts this requirement. So, is there AOC suspended?
 
MeCe
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:12 am

Quoting MeCe (Reply 11):
Construction begun on military side of Ataturk airport, some bunkers is demolishing. They are building some cargo area at the end of runway to clear mess on cargo terminal.



I am making correct myself.

Yes they started demolish bunkers but only a turtle speed. I saw only 2 machines yesterday but they are not working after 5 pm. I cant imagine how stupidly they manage this organisation.
 
umit
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:03 pm

I heard that United will stop flying to Istanbul by october.
 
LAXintl
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:04 pm

Yes last flight 25-26Oct with the IATA schedule change.
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cuban8
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RE: Turkish Aviation July 2013

Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:36 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 37):
First 2-months were 78.1% with about a 60/40 Houston point of sale split. They just also added 2 more weekly frequencies this week for the remainder of the season.

Do you have the numbers for TK during June? Would be interesting to know if TK was really affected by the Gezi parki demonstrations!! According to news reports and booking sites (which we should always take with a pinch of salt), tourism to Istanbul was down by 50% for quite some time during June.
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