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Its Here Finally! The American A319 Part 2

Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:54 pm

Link to the origial thread Its Here Finally! The American A319! (by jayeshrulz Jun 21 2013 in Civil Aviation)
 
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Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:58 pm

Nice video, notice the hydralics backup turbine is extended, must be for testing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4fvMeUjA_A&feature=youtu.be
 
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Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:40 pm

very cool video

can anybody confirm N8001N?

thanks
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Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:29 pm

Close, but no cigar http://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK
 
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Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:51 pm

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 2):
can anybody confirm N8001N?

N8001N is correct. Here is a video of the landing:

http://youtu.be/HseC-u99Lu8
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Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:54 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 3):
How about 2 A319s?

And these 2 frames are:

MSN 5678 / D-AVYQ / N8001N
MSN 5698 / D-AVYR / N9002U
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Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:39 pm

I'm joining this thread a little late...can someone tell me when these are expected to be handed over to AA? Thanks.
 
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Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:41 pm

Quoting 777ER (Thread starter):

I'm joining late also, I guess they're abandoning Boeing 737's??

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Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:54 pm

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 7):
I'm joining late also, I guess they're abandoning Boeing 737's??

   they still have tons of 737s on order.
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Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:56 pm

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 7):
I'm joining late also, I guess they're abandoning Boeing 737's??

No, American chose to ride the post 9/11 airline crash without bankruptcy (unlike Delta and United who decided that strategic bankruptcy would make them stronger a few years later) in order to accomplish this American delayed the MD-80 retirement. Unfortunately this means American has a problem, the MD-80's have to be phased out on an accelerated schedule to avoid airframe loss and Boeing can't supply enough 737's to meet the new requirement, so American's picking up A319's and A321's to cover the spread.
 
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Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:20 am

If I remember correctly AA is leasing these and buying the NEOs when they go into production.
 
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Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:44 am

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 8):
Quoting FSXJunkie (Reply 9):

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

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Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:04 am

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 5):
And these 2 frames are:

MSN 5678 / D-AVYQ / N8001N
MSN 5698 / D-AVYR / N9002U

A bit off topic, but...Does anybody have info on the progress of the A321T model that AA is to be receiving some time in Sept/Oct? The production list I saw didn't even list American, but there were several for US Airways about ready to go through.
 
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Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:33 am

Quoting Robt760 (Reply 12):
Does anybody have info on the progress of the A321T model that AA is to be receiving some time in Sept/Oct?

What is the A321T?

But according to my information, AA will receive 2 A321s with sharklets in November and December (MSN 5834 and 5860).
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Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:16 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 13):
What is the A321T?

The A321's that AA will use for its transcon flights (JFK-LAX/SFO) that will have F, J, and Y
 
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Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:20 pm

I see. Unfortunately, I have no information about the cabin configuration of the 2 A321s due for the end of the year.
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Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:02 pm

Quoting rojo (Reply 14):
The A321's that AA will use for its transcon flights (JFK-LAX/SFO) that will have F, J, and Y

Yes,it will be configured as follows: First Class 10 Business Class 72 Coach (with 36 of those being similar to Economy Plus but not labeled as such).

See this article: http://hub.aa.com/en/nr/pressrelease...with-more-comfort-and-connectivity
 
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Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:59 pm

Don't the A319/321's get entertainment systems for each seats??? Or will it be for only selected aircraft? And how about the 737's, won't they get them eventually??
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Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:08 pm

When are these due for delivery to AAL?

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Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:16 pm

Quoting BAW076 (Reply 18):
When are these due for delivery to AAL?

The schedule:

> MSN 5327 (N9015D) November (ex-testbed)
> MSN 5678 (N8001N) July
> MSN 5698 (N9002U) August
> MSN 5704 (N93003) August
> MSN 5745 (N9004F) September
> MSN 5753 (N4005X) September
> MSN 5761 September
> MSN 5781 October
> MSN 5786 October
> MSN 5788 October
> MSN 5789 October
> MSN 5798 October
> MSN 5810 October
> MSN 5827 November
> MSN 5842 November

Subject to change.
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Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:26 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 19):
The schedule:

> MSN 5327 (N9015D) November (ex-testbed)
> MSN 5678 (N8001N) July
> MSN 5698 (N9002U) August
> MSN 5704 (N93003) August
> MSN 5745 (N9004F) September
> MSN 5753 (N4005X) September
> MSN 5761 September
> MSN 5781 October
> MSN 5786 October
> MSN 5788 October
> MSN 5789 October
> MSN 5798 October
> MSN 5810 October
> MSN 5827 November
> MSN 5842 November

Subject to change.

Thanks for the info!
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Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:58 pm

Will AA's Airbus have "mood lighting" or standard light bulbs. I know they will all have PTV's for the initial deliveries. Rumor is that AA will discontinue domestic IFE early next year.
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:36 am

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 21):
Rumor is that AA will discontinue domestic IFE early next year.

A good call, I'd say. With power outlets and inflight Wi-Fi, passengers can now provide their own IFE without the cost and complexity of wiring it into the aircraft.
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:46 pm

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 22):

A good call, I'd say. With power outlets and inflight Wi-Fi, passengers can now provide their own IFE without the cost and complexity of wiring it into the aircraft.

No. It just continues the cluster F@##$ decision making again between old and new AA leadership. Continuing along the lines of adding more seats back into the MCE planes, going back to Eagle pilots for more cuts after a contract had just been ratified and now we're hearing about the removal or IFE less than a year after it is being implemented.

After advertising the make overs for over a year and on the verger of new aircraft delivery with the new interiors, new seats, and IFE it just is going to confuse people even more. What are they going to do just turn it off on the planes that have it so people on those flight continue to think American sucks, their service sucks, and their new planes are already broken or not working? Or maybe they are going to just gut the aircraft and install all new interiors?

While other mergers weren't perfect, they at least presented an early coherent plan and brand for the customers that provided some direction where the airlines were going (for better or worse). I still think the biggest problem with this merger is going to be the lack of direction with respect to where the hard product is going and the changes that are made will be to align AA more with US's mediocre product offering while continuing half-hearted improvements in US's product offerings.

Devaluation of AAdvantage program miles with respect to award travel, likely change in meal service (AA and DL have meals for flights 2 hours or longer while US meals start at flights 3.5 hours and longer), smaller MCE cabins, rumored removal of IFE, etc. the list just goes on.
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:57 am

N9002U. Really?

Used on one of the early United 737-200s.

How wild is that?
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:34 pm

Here are some shots of the new 319 interiors.

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Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:51 pm

for some reason A.net won't accept the link.

boardingarea.com/onemileatatime/2013/07/13/pictures-of-americans-new-airbus-a319s/
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:43 pm

8 First class seats?
 
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Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:40 am

N8001N should be flying off to her new home any day now

somebody in the know? possible stops along the way?

thanks
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:24 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 19):
The schedule:

> MSN 5327 (N9015D) November (ex-testbed)
> MSN 5678 (N8001N) July
> MSN 5698 (N9002U) August
> MSN 5704 (N93003) August
> MSN 5745 (N9004F) September
> MSN 5753 (N4005X) September
> MSN 5761 September
> MSN 5781 October
> MSN 5786 October
> MSN 5788 October
> MSN 5789 October
> MSN 5798 October
> MSN 5810 October
> MSN 5827 November
> MSN 5842 November

Subject to change.

These are A-319 Aircraft, right? I was looking at the A321 fleet list and there are no AA orders showing.
 
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:51 am

AA ORD

Quoting Robt760 (Reply 16):
Yes,it will be configured as follows: First Class 10 Business Class 72 Coach (with 36 of those being similar to Economy Plus but not labeled as such).

The A321T (for Transcon) will have 10 lie flat FC seats, 20 lie flat BC seats, 36 Main Cabin Extra (MCE) seats and 36 MC seats.

AA ORD
 
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:49 am

Quoting Robt760 (Reply 29):
These are A-319 Aircraft, right? I was looking at the A321 fleet list and there are no AA orders showing.

Correct, that list is A319 only. AA will receive only 2 A321 aircraft this year:

> MSN 5834
> MSN 5860

Another 20 A321 aircraft are scheduled for 2014, the first 8 are already allocated:

> MSN 5884
> MSN 5895
> MSN 5904
> MSN 5938
> MSN 5946
> MSN 5955
> MSN 5975
> MSN 5983
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:02 pm

MSN 5704 (N93003), the third AA A319, has been spotted in full paint today.
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:38 pm

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 28):
N8001N should be flying off to her new home any day now

somebody in the know? possible stops along the way?

Will delivered Tuesday according to AA
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:56 pm

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 33):

WIll it deliver to DFW (DWH) or TUL?? Any event hopefully spotters will be out and ready with cameras.... My little niece looked at a picture of the A319 in new AA livery and she thought it was one of the airplanes from the new Disney film...LOL
 
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:26 pm

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 34):

I assume it would be DFW

[Edited 2013-07-19 12:42:51]
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Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:50 pm

I saw one doing an approach and go-around at runway 23 in Hamburg Fuhlsbuettel yesterday, are they doing training flights with the DLR?
 
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Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:41 am

Quoting Tristan7977 (Reply 17):

Don't the A319/321's get entertainment systems for each seats??? Or will it be for only selected aircraft? And how about the 737's, won't they get them eventually??

All new deliveries will receive IFE in every seat, that includes new 737 deliveries starting in December. . . This is assuming nothing changes when DP takes the reigns...
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Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:06 pm

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 22):
A good call, I'd say. With power outlets and inflight Wi-Fi, passengers can now provide their own IFE without the cost and complexity of wiring it into the aircraft.

But for every passenger who comes aboard with a smartphone and tablet/laptop, you might have someone like me who is still trying to figure out how to use a smartphone after 10 months of use, and still uses a desktop computer. Another point is that a lot of people are carrying smartphones and computers owned by employers. Start using company equipment for non-approved purposes, like watching sports, sit-coms, or movies on a flight, and the boss will be having a little chat at the behast of the company IT guru.

And frankly, if JetBlue, Virgin America, and other competitors offer IFE on domestic flights, why should AA just say, "Use your phone or computer"?

Quoting crAAzy (Reply 23):
While other mergers weren't perfect, they at least presented an early coherent plan and brand for the customers that provided some direction where the airlines were going (for better or worse). I still think the biggest problem with this merger is going to be the lack of direction with respect to where the hard product is going and the changes that are made will be to align AA more with US's mediocre product offering while continuing half-hearted improvements in US's product offerings.

Devaluation of AAdvantage program miles with respect to award travel, likely change in meal service (AA and DL have meals for flights 2 hours or longer while US meals start at flights 3.5 hours and longer), smaller MCE cabins, rumored removal of IFE, etc. the list just goes on.

Rumors about what airlines will do are just that, rumors. Much of the time, they are either completely wrong or partially true.

That said, Doug Parker admitted, when he was meeting with union leaders to get them on the merger bandwagon, that US's in-flight product, as well as other aspects of customer service, is inferior to AA's. US doesn't have the route network that generates premium traffic. Considering that Parker got his start in the airline business at AA, when Bob Crandall was trying to out-innovate every other airline, one would assume that Parker understands that AA can't effectively compete with UA and DL by offering US's product.
 
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Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:22 pm

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 22):
A good call, I'd say. With power outlets and inflight Wi-Fi, passengers can now provide their own IFE without the cost and complexity of wiring it into the aircraft.

That A.net myth has to stop. Fact is, far more people still use the IFE system than their own devices, and in-flight Wi-Fi providers are bleeding cash as we know it.

[Edited 2013-07-21 13:25:03]
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Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:38 pm

Just to expand on what's already posted above, Planespotters.net American Airlines' listings provide the following details for the upcoming Airbus A319 aircraft

5327 Airbus A319-112(WL) N9015D
5678 Airbus A319-112(WL) N8001N
5698 Airbus A319-112(WL) N9002U
5704 Airbus A319-112(WL) N93003
5745 Airbus A319-112(WL) N9004F
5753 Airbus A319-112(WL) N4005X
5761 Airbus A319-112(WL) N9006
5781 Airbus A319-112(WL) N5007E
5786 Airbus A319-112(WL) N9008U
5788 Airbus A319-112(WL) N8009T
5789 Airbus A319-112(WL) N9010R
5798 Airbus A319-112(WL) N9011P
5810 Airbus A319-112(WL) N9012
5827 Airbus A319-112(WL) N9013K
5842 Airbus A319-112(WL) N3014R
5902 Airbus A319-112(WL) N9016

I have to admit, I do think the A319 looks fantastic in the new American colours!
 
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Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:29 pm

Quoting bmibaby737 (Reply 40):

5327 Airbus A319-112(WL) N9015D
5678 Airbus A319-112(WL) N8001N
5698 Airbus A319-112(WL) N9002U
5704 Airbus A319-112(WL) N93003
5745 Airbus A319-112(WL) N9004F
5753 Airbus A319-112(WL) N4005X
5761 Airbus A319-112(WL) N9006
5781 Airbus A319-112(WL) N5007E
5786 Airbus A319-112(WL) N9008U
5788 Airbus A319-112(WL) N8009T
5789 Airbus A319-112(WL) N9010R
5798 Airbus A319-112(WL) N9011P
5810 Airbus A319-112(WL) N9012
5827 Airbus A319-112(WL) N9013K
5842 Airbus A319-112(WL) N3014R
5902 Airbus A319-112(WL) N9016

Just a bit curious as to why the N-numbers appear out of sequence, and why some N-numbers have a single letter as the last character. Granted, there are only so many numbers ending in AA, AM, and AN, and the recent 738 deliveries have N-numbers ending in NN. I seem to recall that the F100s had four numbers that were sequential with delivery, followed by a single letter. It seems to me that the letter in the N-number was the third character in the ship number (NxxxxK would be ship number 2BK.
 
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Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:06 pm

Quoting ckfred (Reply 41):
Just a bit curious as to why the N-numbers appear out of sequence, and why some N-numbers have a single letter as the last character. Granted, there are only so many numbers ending in AA, AM, and AN, and the recent 738 deliveries have N-numbers ending in NN. I seem to recall that the F100s had four numbers that were sequential with delivery, followed by a single letter. It seems to me that the letter in the N-number was the third character in the ship number (NxxxxK would be ship number 2BK.

I believe fin 015 is the test aircraft, and thus isn't being delivered straight away? As for the registrations, I believe whatever registrations are available with the fleet number within it. It looks a lot how Southwest Airlines are going about their new aircraft...

http://www.planespotters.net/Product...rer=Boeing&subtype=737-800&sort=fn
 
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Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:36 pm

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 33):

and...? is she home?  
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Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:18 pm

First delivery is imminent.



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Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:27 pm

The new paint scheme looks great on the new AA 319. Looking forward to seeing these planes flying out of Miami eventually.
 
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Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:44 pm

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 34):
My little niece looked at a picture of the A319 in new AA livery and she thought it was one of the airplanes from the new Disney film...LOL

It is... http://variety.com/2013/film/news/sm...es-with-disneys-planes-1200562686/

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 39):
Fact is, far more people still use the IFE system than their own devices, and in-flight Wi-Fi providers are bleeding cash as we know it.

Fact? Source? You being nosy and looking at what people are doing on the aircraft that you are on, doesn't make it a fact. People passing off opinion as fact has got to stop.

Do you work for an IFE provider? I find it odd that someone is so passionate about IFE... In the past year, I've had broken seat-back IFE machines on AA, UA and NZ. In my experiences, the odds of it working correctly are lower than it working period. I'm sure the inflight crews would love to see them disappear as that is one less thing they will have to trouble-shoot and/or be blamed for.
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Close, but no cigar http://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK
 
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Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:52 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 44):

OMG she's g o r g e o u s   
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Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:30 pm

The first AA A319 is scheduled to fly XFW-BGR-DFW on Saturday the 27th. It's due to arrive DFW at 1600.

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