|Quoting Stitch (Reply 1):|
TG and CZ have both noted they have struggled with profitability operating the A380
|Quoting giblets (Reply 4):|
Either way it is a really difficult thing to work out, as no airline reveals it's operating costs, especially not per type
|Quoting delimit (Reply 10):|
I don't think this is really an answerable question without fairly detailed (and usually confidential) information from the airlines. Too many other things play into profit and loss.
|Quoting racercoup (Reply 12):|
As more 787 and 350 types are delivered city pairing will expand. In some case this will affect load factors on hub to hub flights.
|Quoting cerecl (Reply 13):|
This goes both ways. One cannot assume hub to hub traffic will remain static. The situation is, while P2P (not much evidence yet) or P2H will obviously grow, so will H2H, today's 77W route may be tomorrow's A380 routes. The hubs did not become hubs out of nowhere.
|Quoting RDH3E (Reply 7):|
Too bad no US operators have them, the do reveal the operating costs by model as you can see in this other thread:
|Quoting jfk777 (Reply 5):|
Flying to Peking and Shanghai does not make for profitable A380 operations for China Southern. China Southern now flies it to LAX and this fall to Sydney, two long haul routes for which it was designed.
|Quoting Stitch (Reply 1):|
CZ has just started AND OLD: Guangzhou - Baiyun (CAN / ZGGG) (closed), China">CAN-LAX with AND OLD: Guangzhou - Baiyun (CAN / ZGGG) (closed), China">CAN-SYD planned for the fall.
|Quoting planeadmirer (Reply 17):|
The answer for EK is yes. Will others?
|Quoting A380900 (Thread starter):|
Any Airline Presently Losing Money With The A380?
|Quoting m404 (Reply 21):|
This might be revealing about individual 380 operators.
About ten paragraphs down it mentions only two carriers may be making it work.
Among the publicly-traded A380 operators, he said, “only China Southern and Lufthansa have a positive ROIC – WACC gap
|Quoting racercoup (Reply 14):|
I would think the sheer numbers of twin aisle aircraft that will be delivered in the next decade will create a much larger number of P2P routes created.
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