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How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:34 am

As of current, in the USA, how rare is it to get on a 737-500? As of now, I've only been on one 737-500, and that was 737-5H4 N524SW from AUS-BNA-MDW. I'm just curious, and does WN now keep these closer to TX than they did in 2005?
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:22 am

You can still catch them in South Africa with Comair. They're operating under franchise with BA, so technically, BA still have 737-500s flying for them!

Not for long, though. Comair ordered eight new 737-800s to replace them.

In the US, though, it's difficult to say, I'm pretty sure US retired the last of theirs, and WN added winglets to theirs that are remaining, so it might be difficult to spot them.
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:28 am

I flew one on AR and one for UA.
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:38 am

Man, it wasnt all that long ago it seems where that was the old CO aircraft of choice on the BOS-EWR-BOS route I always took. Did the job!
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:35 pm

Quoting DexSwart (Reply 1):
In the US, though, it's difficult to say, I'm pretty sure US retired the last of theirs

US never flew the 500. They flew the 300 and the 400, they have a few 400s left.

WN, PMUA and PMCO flew the 500. WN still does. It is interesting that back in the day when the 500 was new, WN only bought 25 of them compared to the their fleets of 300s and 700s which became a lot larger. I don't know if the new UA still has 500s.

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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:07 pm

Quoting Grisee08 (Thread starter):

Does it have to be in the US? LH still owns 737-500. But they are phased out quicker than expected. So hurry up  

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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:37 pm

Air Mediteranne still operate a B735 or two...
 
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:42 pm

Quoting DexSwart (Reply 1):
In the US, though, it's difficult to say, I'm pretty sure US retired the last of theirs, and WN added winglets to theirs that are remaining, so it might be difficult to spot them.
WN is in the process of retiring theirs right now, but they do not have winglets retrofitted to them. Only the 300s that are staying in the fleet long are being retrofitted. I believe all WN 500 have a reg of N5**SW.

IIRC WN and UA (pmCO) only have 500s left in service at the moment. (EDIT: in the USA)

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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:59 pm

I think Bahamasair still has a few ...
 
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:02 pm

Quoting Raventech (Reply 7):
I believe all WN 500 have a reg of N5**SW.

they do
 
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:11 pm

Quoting American 767 (Reply 4):
I don't know if the new UA still has 500s.

They retired just a few weeks ago--for the second time! United retired them several years ago, and these are the ex-Continental ones that just retired.
 
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:13 pm

I was always under the impression that Janet operated the 735 but it turns out they have 736's. Silly me.
I'm not sure I've ever seen a 735 here though, unless I caught one from WW at MAN.
 
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:31 pm

UA (Ex-CO) retired the last of their 737-500s the other month. Southwest I believe is the last scheduled air carrier in the U.S. to operate the 737-500, and they only have 19. So 19 in the U.S. right now is your answer. Not sure about the rest of the world.
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:36 pm

I believe Air Baltic still flies them. I flew them a while back and they were really quite nice.
 
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:59 pm

SK still have 5 left but are beeing phased out quickly. They still fly on the old BU routes in western Norway since they are old BU aircrafts. Flew one on BGO-AES not too long ago and it's age was showing.
 
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:16 pm

Quoting Grisee08 (Thread starter):
does WN now keep these closer to TX than they did in 2005?

I'm not completely sure, but all WN 735 flights that are currently airborne are intra-TX flights.
 
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:25 pm

Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 3):

I spent a lot of time sitting on a CO 737-500 in the holding pens at EWR on THursday nights waiting for the approval to go depart. "We're currently number 37 for take off".
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:27 pm

Many Russian and some central-Asian carriers purchased 737-500s over the last few years to replace older soviet-era equipment or for expansion purposes. The 735 had a relatively low resale value for a number of years which led to interest in the type from these airlines - which in turn pushed prices up for a short period. Many of the CO planes were sold, rather than scrapped or parked, for example.

Russia and the Ukraine have substantial number of 735s flying now, particularly at UTAir, Transaero, and Ukraine International.
 
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:30 pm

Air North's website shows that they have 2 in their fleet:
http://www.flyairnorth.com/Experience/Fleet.aspx

Bur I could only find pictures of C-GANH in the database
 
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:44 pm

Quoting Grisee08 (Thread starter):
I'm just curious, and does WN now keep these closer to TX than they did in 2005?

WN -500s can be found anywhere, not just inside Texas anymore. When they did that back in 2005 it was due to the then recent -200 retirement. The tail numbers of the WN -500s are N501-N528. As of now there are only 18 -500s left, and the -500s that are retired are listed below:

N513SW
N519SW
N501SW
N503SW
N504SW
N505SW
N506SW ( Retired the other day )

The following are due to be retired in the near future, however this is subject to change..

N512SW
N502SW
N507SW

I''ve always liked the looks of the -500, reminded me of a toy, however working it is a whole different story, and anyone who has worked the -500 from a ground crew point of view would defiantly agree.

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc368/737-8H4/4F282508-D332-4C37-8BEC-6ABDE7BBBA05-10124-0000077CDD9C0F67.jpg

FWD Bin of a -500.. As you can tell the bins aren't that big..

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc368/737-8H4/E518766C-B990-4C59-BBDB-818267CDD66F-10124-0000077D0290FC26.jpg

N504SW has been retired for awhile now, kinda curious where shes at now..
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:45 pm

Quoting jporterfi (Reply 15):
Quoting Grisee08 (Thread starter):
does WN now keep these closer to TX than they did in 2005?

I'm not completely sure, but all WN 735 flights that are currently airborne are intra-TX flights.

The WN 500s also make their way over to PHX on a fairly regular basis.

They have 19 5H4s currently active, the oldest of which is now 24 years old.
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:33 pm

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 8):
I think Bahamasair still has a few ...

Yupp, they just received them last summer so they're sticking around for a while! 

I'd say if you are in the USA these might be the ones to go for. Cheap tickets and you get to spend a few days in Nassau inf you please, which is NOT a bad deal!
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:46 pm

By September 2013 WN will be down to 15 total 737-500.
The last 737-500 should be gone by September 2014.
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:59 pm

Quoting airnorth (Reply 18):
Air North's website shows that they have 2 in their fleet:
http://www.flyairnorth.com/Experience/Fleet.aspx

Bur I could only find pictures of C-GANH in the database

Air North does indeed have two -500s, C-GANH and C-GANJ. They generally stick to northern and western Canada, but we do run charters out east and down into the USA every now and again, and often use the -500s for those. If you search the registration in the database there are photos of both.
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:03 pm

Well I guess CRP ( Corpus Christi,TX) would be the best place for a chance to see a -500....
It seems that they didn't perform as advertised when they came out, but I don't know if that is true or not.

As for the bins, I always loved squirming around in the front of it haha.
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:14 pm

Quoting mtnwest1979 (Reply 24):
Well I guess CRP ( Corpus Christi,TX) would be the best place for a chance to see a -500....
It seems that they didn't perform as advertised when they came out, but I don't know if that is true or not.

AUS is a great place to see the -500s as well. Also DAL.   They probably don't perform nearly as well as the -300s. Length seems to be one of the easiest ways to increase an aircraft's efficiency.
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:21 pm

Quoting DexSwart (Reply 1):
You can still catch them in South Africa with Comair. They're operating under franchise with BA, so technically, BA still have 737-500s flying for them!

Are you sure? I'm almost certain CAW operate only 733 and 734... Until my departure there CAW never had 735's... And my tab keeping on CAW has not revealed any 735's...
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:32 pm

Quoting tlecam (Reply 16):
I spent a lot of time sitting on a CO 737-500 in the holding pens at EWR on THursday nights waiting for the approval to go depart. "We're currently number 37 for take off".

Ain't that the truth! If it wasn't one direction, it was the other. Usually both!
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:55 pm

What happened to WW 735's when they finally shut down last year?
 
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:03 pm

Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 26):
Are you sure? I'm almost certain CAW operate only 733 and 734... Until my departure there CAW never had 735's... And my tab keeping on CAW has not revealed any 735's...

You are correct, MN do not operate, and never have operated, 735s. They operate 733s, 734s, and 738s. The historic fleet is 732s, 727s, and MD80s.

Nationwide on the other hand had two 735s before they ceased ops.

For info, 4 of the 8 new 738s have already been delivered. There are only 4 more on order. MN have 5 738s on lease. MN have stated the remaining 4 for delivery will be for the Kulula brand as well. Perhaps you may see some of the leased 738s end up in BA colours, but I guess we will just have to wait and see what the fleet plan is to replace the remaining seven 733s and nine 734s. I guess it depends on whether BA plc renew the franchise agreement.
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:13 pm

Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 23):
Air North does indeed have two -500s, C-GANH and C-GANJ. They generally stick to northern and western Canada, but we do run charters out east and down into the USA every now and again, and often use the -500s for those. If you search the registration in the database there are photos of both.

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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:47 pm

Quoting penguins (Reply 13):
I believe Air Baltic still flies them

I think they have around 9 of them
 
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:50 pm

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 8):
I think Bahamasair still has a few ...

Yes, for them it is a "new" plane that they just added to the fleet! (Replacing the old 737-200s).
 
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:51 pm

I've photographed two, one Lufthansa (D-ABIK) at FRA, one Bahamasair (C6-BFE) at MIA.
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:28 am

airBaltic, BT, has six B737-500, eight 300s, eight Q400s, and 10 F50s.
 
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:03 am

Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 23):
Air North does indeed have two -500s, C-GANH and C-GANJ.

C-GANH comes from Braathens and C-GANJ comes from Aer Lingus.
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:19 am

Twelve ex-CO's 737-500s have gone to Sriwijaya Air (Indonesia).
 
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:09 am

I flew on N519SW from DEN-SMF in May; the cabin was pretty rough.
 
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:20 am

As stated above, Russia and Ukraine, buit also Belarus are infected by this disgusting desease  ... You till have them on UT, B2, PS, 5N, UN, FV and lots of smaller carriers, such as Yamal, Aeroflot Don, Tatarstan. Some of those 735s are in a condition worse than the old Tupolevs phased out. Only slowly airlines are reolacing them with newer NGs or 320 Series. I always try to avoid the classic 737 in the former USSR... And in Europe you can ride on LH, those birds are beaten but in very good condition.

But the 735 killed lots of the classic Soviet airliners, ruining the picture and the flair of air transport in those countries. I remember when in LED not long ago it was only one or two Boeings and a single Airbus for donestic travel on the apron, now you should feel lucky if UT brings a TU3. And the newer Antonovs and the T20 is not the same as the good old ones...
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:39 am

Quoting American 767 (Reply 4):
WN only bought 25 of them

I've wondered why they only bought such a small amount, when they historically have flown many of each model they purchased -200/300/500/700 and now the -800

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 5):
Does it have to be in the US?

Preferably lol.. I don't think I'll be skipping around LH's territory anytime soon.   (I could be wrong though, so thanks for the info in advance.  )

Quoting Mesaflyguy (Reply 21):
I'd say if you are in the USA these might be the ones to go for. Cheap tickets and you get to spend a few days in Nassau inf you please, which is NOT a bad deal!

Tempting.   lol

Would I be correct in saying the -500 took over the -200 routes for WN??
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:02 pm

Quoting Grisee08 (Reply 39):
I've wondered why they only bought such a small amount, when they historically have flown many of each model they purchased -200/300/500/700 and now the -800

When WN originally got the -500s the thought was to have a seamless operation with the -200s due to the same seating. However they realized that the -300s had basically the same operating cost with an extra 15 seats, and it wasn't that difficult to sub a -200 for a -300.
 
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:21 am

LH735 - interior cabin was old. Seen some 735s at the FRA airport

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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:57 am

Quoting FlyboyOz (Reply 41):
LH735 - interior cabin was old. Same some 735s at the FRA airport

The interior should have be renewed in the last one or two years - although they are supposed to be phased out.
I am quite sure they got the "NEK" (Neue Europa Kabine - new Europe cabin) with slim seats, etc.
 
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:19 pm

Quoting DexSwart (Reply 1):
You can still catch them in South Africa with Comair. They're operating under franchise with BA, so technically, BA still have 737-500s flying for them!

Not for long, though. Comair ordered eight new 737-800s to replace them.

No, BA Comair have 737-400, not -500.
The only -500 seen in SA in recent years was the Air Namibia one to CPT.

Comair have just received another -400 for the BA side on lease.
The next 4 -800 will go to Kulula and the next 8 are only options, not firm orders, so you may not See a modern BA Comair aircraft for some time.
 
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:59 pm

Quoting DUSint (Reply 42):
Quoting FlyboyOz (Reply 41):
LH735 - interior cabin was old. Same some 735s at the FRA airport

The interior should have be renewed in the last one or two years - although they are supposed to be phased out.
I am quite sure they got the "NEK" (Neue Europa Kabine - new Europe cabin) with slim seats, etc.

Excerpt from the following LH document describing the new interiors installed on the A320 and 737 families in 2010 and 2011. It indicates that all the 737s were to get the new cabins, both -300s and -500s.
http://www.lufthansagroup.com/filead.../lh-newslink-50sp-October-2010.pdf


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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:30 pm

Quoting borgcube (Reply 43):
The only -500 seen in SA in recent years was the Air Namibia one to CPT.

There was also that african airline with the giraffe pattern on the tail - I forget their name now... I used to have them in/out of JNB...
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:03 am

Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 45):
There was also that african airline with the giraffe pattern on the tail - I forget their name now... I used to have them in/out of JNB...

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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:28 am

Thanks everybody for all the information. I guess the -500 shared the same fate in its family series (Classics - 300/400/500) as the -600 shared it its family series (NG - 600/700/800/900), even though the -500 did considerably better than its NG counterpart. IMO, the -500 was a nice ride, and the particular one I was on, N524SW was pretty quiet and the interior didn't look all beat up at all.

I guess it's true in that shrinks just don't sell.
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:48 pm

Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 45):
There was also that african airline with the giraffe pattern on the tail - I forget their name now... I used to have them in/out of JNB...

Zambezi Airlines.
Their aircraft left back to the lessors last year (GECAS)

Some recent -500 I missed include, LAM Mozambique and Rwandair
 
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RE: How Rare Is The 737-500?

Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:08 pm

Norweegian has a few left
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