User avatar
KarelXWB
Crew
Topic Author
Posts: 19993
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:13 pm

Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:42 pm

The first B777-300ER for Kenya Airways emerged from the final assembly line in Everett. Delivery of the 2-class 397-seater (28 J, 369 Y) is scheduled for mid-October while first revenue service Nairobi - Guangzhou should start from November 19, 3 times a week. Plans to operate the aircraft to Amsterdam and London have been abandoned.

KQ882 NBO0255 - 1915CAN 77W 246
KQ883 CAN2140 - 0410+1NBO 77W 246

I'm not sure which line number this is.



The picture was taken by Matt Cawby, a bigger format can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/9631457071/
Close, but no cigar http://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK
 
rj777
Posts: 1549
Joined: Sat Dec 02, 2000 1:47 am

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:10 pm

"Excuse, me miss? Your overwing door is open!" Nice bird, though!
 
jayeshrulz
Posts: 349
Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2007 7:36 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:19 pm

Good to see KQ modernizing its fleet.
Any chances that we see KQ starting routes to the Americas?

Their 767s need a urgent refurbishment. When last I saw the bird, it literally had some cables running under J class floor mats and it was clearly visible. It was later "stacked" under the mat by the cabin crew.

Anyways, the 77W proved to be a very successful aircraft. Congrats to KQ and Boeing!
Keep flying, because the sky is no limit!
 
User avatar
yellowtail
Posts: 3721
Joined: Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:46 am

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:41 pm

Hate to on it arriving in NBO with the "temporary" terminal chaos there now. I was bad enough before the building burned down.
When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
 
AirbusGeek
Posts: 139
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:42 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:22 pm

I'm sorry! But did I miss something, when did KQ order 77W?  
PIEDMONT- A MODEL OF HOW GOOD AN AIRLINE CAN BE
 
User avatar
KarelXWB
Crew
Topic Author
Posts: 19993
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:13 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:28 pm

Close, but no cigar http://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK
 
Viscount724
Posts: 19002
Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:32 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:40 pm

Don't they normally paint the rudder before assembly for balance purposes? It's not painted in the photo.
 
User avatar
KarelXWB
Crew
Topic Author
Posts: 19993
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:13 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:49 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
Don't they normally paint the rudder before assembly for balance purposes?

I have seen it before on the BA 77W but I'm not sure why some rudders are not yet fully painted.
Close, but no cigar http://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK
 
skipness1E
Posts: 3381
Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:18 am

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:29 pm

Is China a bigger market than Europe to Kenya?
 
Viscount724
Posts: 19002
Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:32 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:01 am

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 9):
Is China a bigger market than Europe to Kenya?

China must be much smaller. There's no direct air service between China and Kenya, compared to at least 7 carriers operating nonstop service from Europe.
 
User avatar
aerorobnz
Posts: 7459
Joined: Sat Feb 10, 2001 3:43 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:56 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 10):
China must be much smaller. There's no direct air service between China and Kenya, compared to at least 7 carriers operating nonstop service from Europe.


Loads of cargo on this route. Kenya's usual export commodities outbound and of course the Kenyan business traffic importing various products inbound. 77W useful for payload. It is useful to note that Thailand is also an important route for KQ. The addon is either BKK-CAN & BKK-HKG. It helps with crew costs too. Ovenighting them in BKK for a double-banger the next day.
Flown to 120 Airports in 44 Countries on 73 Operators. Visited 55 Countries and counting. Wanderlust is like Syphilis, once you have the itch it's too late for treatment.
 
User avatar
boeingrulz
Posts: 521
Joined: Thu Sep 30, 1999 2:55 am

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:26 am

Decals are now used for most disigns on tails and winglets and they can be applied after the rudder is balanced. I don't know all the details but I know that is why you see airplanes coming out of the factory without full rudder disigns.
 
User avatar
EK413
Posts: 4328
Joined: Sat Nov 29, 2003 3:11 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:30 am

You beauty! Can't wait until she is wearing her elegant livery  

You can't beat old tech!

EK8413
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. We are tonight’s entertainment!
 
waly777
Posts: 417
Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:11 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:56 am

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 9):
Is China a bigger market than Europe to Kenya?

At the moment it is smaller, however there is a lot of trade between West Africa (Nigeria particularly) and China. It is quicker to China I believe via East Africa from Lagos, than through the Middle East. This is one of Ethiopian's key money makers as emphasised by them being the first international airline in the South East of Nigeria (traders and industrialist central).

Add to this that the Chinese is investing heavily in Africa @ the moment, so there is likely going to be very strong transfer traffic from the continent to China; the 2 East African carriers are best positioned to funnel this Traffic.
The test of first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold 2 opposed ideas in the mind concurrently, and still function
 
LJ
Posts: 4116
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 1999 8:28 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:14 am

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 9):
Is China a bigger market than Europe to Kenya?

There is a lot of Chinese investment in Africa. Moreover, in exchange of investment Chinese building companies get a lot of contracts to build infrastructure in Africa (e.g. airports).

Finally, there are not many options

Quoting waly777 (Reply 14):
At the moment it is smaller, however there is a lot of trade between West Africa (Nigeria particularly) and China.

Which AF/KL/KQ explictly mentioned when they introduced the "Safari Express" which operates AMS-CAN-NBO-LOS-NBO-AMS.
 
User avatar
Sepultallica
Posts: 216
Joined: Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:24 am

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:32 pm

According to Titus Naikuni, KQ aims to exploit the growing China - Africa market using NBO as its hub.

If any of you have recently travelled on an intra-African flight either to NBO or ADD, you'd notice the very heavy presence of Chinamen on most flights and at both hubs. But, given the investment, particularly in terms of infrastructure, that Beijing has made in the continent, it isn't that surprising.
Chinokanganwa idemo; Chitsiga hachikanganwe. ✈
 
MaverickM11
Posts: 15274
Joined: Thu Apr 06, 2000 1:59 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:43 pm

Quoting SepulTALLICA (Reply 16):
According to Titus Naikuni, KQ aims to exploit the growing China - Africa market using NBO as its hub.

Did he say that recently? Seems like a long established strategy. Welcome to two decades ago 
E pur si muove -Galileo
 
LondonCity
Posts: 966
Joined: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:57 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:19 pm

Does anyone know what seating layout will be adopted by KQ ? Will it remain 9 or 10-across in the Y cabin ?
 
User avatar
Sepultallica
Posts: 216
Joined: Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:24 am

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:29 pm

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 17):
Did he say that recently? Seems like a long established strategy. Welcome to two decades ago

No.
Chinokanganwa idemo; Chitsiga hachikanganwe. ✈
 
migair54
Posts: 2118
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:24 am

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:58 pm

Quoting LondonCity (Reply 18):
Does anyone know what seating layout will be adopted by KQ ? Will it remain 9 or 10-across in the Y cabin ?

28 Business and 369 economy, that sounds 2-3-2 in business and 3-3-3 in economy to me, otherwise they can fit up to 420 economy seats in 3-4-3 configuration, like Air france for example in CIO or EK in the 2-class B77W has 42 Business and 385 economy (3-4-3)

I think going for less seat arrangement will help them to uplift the extra bagagge that many of those pax will carry going to Africa, that´s a very good business for KQ in CAN and BKK specially.

IMO, right now KQ is real need for some new B787 to upgrade flights like DEL from B737 to B767 or B787 and also places like CDG, BKK or maybe some new destination like the GRU (that has been rumored for a while), or start flying maybe to PEK for example.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 17):
Did he say that recently? Seems like a long established strategy. Welcome to two decades ago 

I think that has been the strategy for the many years now, but i´m not sure if they will are doing a good job with this, ET, QR, EK,TK are really pushing forward and I see KQ going down and not up, even NBO airport before the fire was so tiny for and old, they should have started building a whole new terminal and a new runway years ago.

[Edited 2013-09-01 12:14:32]
 
User avatar
KarelXWB
Crew
Topic Author
Posts: 19993
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:13 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:23 pm

Quoting LondonCity (Reply 18):
Does anyone know what seating layout will be adopted by KQ ? Will it remain 9 or 10-across in the Y cabin ?

Looks like 9-abreast, unless I'm reading this map the wrong way:

Close, but no cigar http://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK
 
bmibaby737
Posts: 1455
Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:07 am

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:20 am

Do we have a construction number and registration for this one? I see it's should be 5Y-..FA
 
User avatar
eastafspot
Posts: 906
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:19 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:21 pm

very nice news

At least one of the KQ wide body will have a "new car smell"

Quoting migair54 (Reply 20):
IMO, right now KQ is real need for some new B787 to upgrade flights like DEL from B737 to B767 or B787 and also places like CDG, BKK or maybe some new destination like the GRU (that has been rumored for a while), or start flying maybe to PEK for example.

Agree. But still have to wait until March 2014 *hopefully*.

Quoting bmibaby737 (Reply 22):
Do we have a construction number and registration for this one? I see it's should be 5Y-..FA

All KQ planes have a registration starting with "5Y-K" hence it might be 5Y-KFA

[Edited 2013-09-02 14:24:03]
Fly with Air Burundi, Air Tanzania, Air Uganda, Kenya Airways and Rwandair...Jumuiya ya Afrika mashariki
 
User avatar
KarelXWB
Crew
Topic Author
Posts: 19993
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:13 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:20 am

Registration will be 5Y-KFA but still no idea about the line number.


Boeing Flightline by moonm, on Flickr
Close, but no cigar http://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK
 
panam330
Posts: 1964
Joined: Sun Mar 14, 2004 11:58 am

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:04 pm

Nice to see at least one airline on the continent grow successfully. They've done a wonderful job renewing and expanding their fleet and network; I look forward to seeing more!
 
pdxswa
Crew
Posts: 136
Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:50 am

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:43 pm

Anyone know the specific model number of the 77W for Kenya Airways ?
 
User avatar
KarelXWB
Crew
Topic Author
Posts: 19993
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:13 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:00 am

I have it listed as a B777‑36N(ER).

[Edited 2013-09-14 02:01:34]
Close, but no cigar http://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK
 
User avatar
KarelXWB
Crew
Topic Author
Posts: 19993
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:13 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:25 pm

Cabin pictures!

J @ 2-3-2, 28 seats.



Y @ 3-3-3, 369 seats

Close, but no cigar http://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK
 
Viscount724
Posts: 19002
Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:32 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:27 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 27):
Cabin pictures!

J @ 2-3-2, 28 seats.

These days, a middle seat in longhaul J class is a 2nd rate product.
 
User avatar
longhauler
Posts: 4954
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:00 am

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:49 am

Wow, there's hope.

9 abreast in Y on a new build B777!
Just because I stopped arguing, doesn't mean I think you are right. It just means I gave up!
 
swallow
Posts: 182
Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:23 am

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:02 am

Quoting longhauler (Reply 29):
Wow, there's hope.

9 abreast in Y on a new build B777!

Their 77E's are also 3-3-3. I am glad they have resisted going to 3-4-3 on the big gal.
The grass is greener where you water it
 
User avatar
aerorobnz
Posts: 7459
Joined: Sat Feb 10, 2001 3:43 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:06 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 28):
These days, a middle seat in longhaul J class is a 2nd rate product.

Yeah to an extent I agree, but I still enjoyed my MS flight with that configuration, and I got it for a song. That wouldn't happen if they were 2-2-2 I'm sure.

There are still families/groups who travel in J, so ultimately they still choose those seats. With the advent of seat selection the only ones who will get the middle seats who really don't want them are the upgrades.

Quoting longhauler (Reply 29):
Wow, there's hope.

9 abreast in Y on a new build B777!

Yep, that's worth an Amen ...Miracles do happen.. 

from your brother in Flight,
aerorobnz
a disciple of the Church of the ignited AV1.
Flown to 120 Airports in 44 Countries on 73 Operators. Visited 55 Countries and counting. Wanderlust is like Syphilis, once you have the itch it's too late for treatment.
 
User avatar
reffado
Posts: 416
Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:47 am

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:43 am

Their J and Y products look quite superior to those of JJ. J is on par with LA, but it looks way better! Too bad I probably will never have the chance to fly this airline.
 
AR385
Posts: 6742
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2003 8:25 am

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:01 am

Quoting jayeshrulz (Reply 2):
Any chances that we see KQ starting routes to the Americas?

I don´t think so. It has potential though for very high yield tourism but I doubt that would justify an entire airplane.
 
pdxswa
Crew
Posts: 136
Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:50 am

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:03 am

KarelXWB thanks for the info !
 
User avatar
EK413
Posts: 4328
Joined: Sat Nov 29, 2003 3:11 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:32 pm

KQ's First 777-36N(ER) "5Y-KFA"


EK8413
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. We are tonight’s entertainment!
 
Norcal773
Posts: 1052
Joined: Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:19 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:32 pm

This bird will look great! Thanks for the pics. Why just Two though?

[Edited 2013-09-18 13:35:51]
If you're going through hell, keep going
 
pdxswa
Crew
Posts: 136
Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:50 am

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:25 pm

Here is another angle and the line number.


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Bill Shemley

 
User avatar
KarelXWB
Crew
Topic Author
Posts: 19993
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:13 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:33 pm

LN 1140 it is, thanks!
Close, but no cigar http://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK
 
pdxswa
Crew
Posts: 136
Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:50 am

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:44 pm

KarelXWB you are very welcome !
 
User avatar
KarelXWB
Crew
Topic Author
Posts: 19993
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:13 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:46 am

5Y-KFA on the runway, still unpainted:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/10008689995/
Close, but no cigar http://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK
 
User avatar
KarelXWB
Crew
Topic Author
Posts: 19993
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:13 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:39 pm

Close, but no cigar http://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK
 
pdxswa
Crew
Posts: 136
Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:50 am

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:30 pm

Kenya Airways first 777-300ER formally known as registration 5Y-KFA has a new registration of 5Y-KZZ.
 
User avatar
KarelXWB
Crew
Topic Author
Posts: 19993
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:13 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:31 pm

It's parked on the PAE flightline, waiting for the first pictures now.
Close, but no cigar http://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK
 
User avatar
KarelXWB
Crew
Topic Author
Posts: 19993
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:13 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:06 pm

Here we go:


5Y-KZZ by sabian404, on Flickr


5Y-KZZ by sabian404, on Flickr

[Edited 2013-10-01 14:09:24]
Close, but no cigar http://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK
 
User avatar
KarelXWB
Crew
Topic Author
Posts: 19993
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:13 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:37 pm

And already in the database too:


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Bernie Leighton

Close, but no cigar http://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK
 
User avatar
eastafspot
Posts: 906
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:19 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:40 pm

Just so beautiful, many thanks for sharing

The press release is available:

http://www.kenya-airways.com/uploade...es/KQ_Boeing%20777%20Brochure2.pdf
Fly with Air Burundi, Air Tanzania, Air Uganda, Kenya Airways and Rwandair...Jumuiya ya Afrika mashariki
 
thegreatRDU
Posts: 884
Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:47 am

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:10 pm

Ok so it's operating Nairobi-Guangzhou.

I am still almost certain the 77W will see LHR too.
Our Returning Champion
 
Norcal773
Posts: 1052
Joined: Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:19 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:51 pm

Beautiful bord indeed! Won't be surprised to see her in LHR too eventually.
If you're going through hell, keep going
 
User avatar
KarelXWB
Crew
Topic Author
Posts: 19993
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:13 pm

RE: Kenya Airways First B777-300ER

Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:44 pm

Kenya Airways released this picture: 5Y-KZZ coming out of paint.

http://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q77/s720x720/970560_10151737711523800_891042633_n.jpg

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151737711523800&l=d1cfcdad53
Close, but no cigar http://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK