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Severe Weather Effecting DEN & Diversions

Sat Sep 14, 2013 11:57 pm

There is currently a Ground Stop in DEN. SO far WN has sent multiple diverted planes to OMA, OKC, SLC, AMA, LBB, ABQ, COS & GJT.

Have any other airlines or airports experienced any diversion?

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RE: Severe Weather Effecting DEN & Diversions

Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:12 am

Here's live ATC for KDEN if anybody wants to listen. http://www.liveatc.net/search/?icao=KDEN
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RE: Severe Weather Effecting DEN & Diversions

Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:12 am

It looks like UA 1718 diverted to PUB.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL1718
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RE: Severe Weather Effecting DEN & Diversions

Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:16 am

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RE: Severe Weather Effecting DEN & Diversions

Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:54 am

Normally we would see some here in Cheyenne but our main runway is closed for a rubber removal project.
 
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RE: Severe Weather Effecting DEN & Diversions

Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:49 pm

Quoting slclaxkixkhh (Reply 3):

These appear to be weather diversions waiting for DEN. Not an actual termination of a flight at a alternative airport.

Although RNP/GPS has leveled the playing field against diversions to alternate airports due to weather; diversions still occur.

It's amazing the way a mountain range can change weather pattern(s) perhaps this is why DEN is built where it was when compared to the Stapleton airport which is closer to the front range.

In Southeast Alaska AS flight(s) destined for JNU (Juneau) will historically give it three attempts to land from both ends of the runway before flying over to Sitka; a 25 minute flight to wait it out. On a handful of occasions AS returned us to SEA or ANC which makes for a lot of flying; What we coined as the trip to nowhere.

On at least two flights we were on our way over to Sitka ATC turned us around back for JNU because a short window of opportunity opened which is traced back to how mountains can change weather.
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RE: Severe Weather Effecting DEN & Diversions

Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:10 pm

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 5):
In Southeast Alaska AS flight(s) destined for JNU (Juneau) will historically give it three attempts to land from both ends of the runway before flying over to Sitka; a 25 minute flight to wait it out. On a handful of occasions AS returned us to SEA or ANC which makes for a lot of flying; What we coined as the trip to nowhere.

I lived in Juneau for a few years and used to fly the DL flight that went LAX-SEA-JNU-FAI. The 727 carried enough fuel to make 2 approaches to JNU and then would overfly to FAI. I spent many nights in Fairbanks waiting for the fog and/or snow to clear in Juneau. Now there is a system at JNU where pilots can land in just about any weather. Sadly, DL is long gone from JNU.
 
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RE: Severe Weather Effecting DEN & Diversions

Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:35 am

Quoting greggariouspdx (Reply 6):

Yes I remember the DL flights well. I believe it originated in SLC in the morning and then flew the schedule you mention. The last flight into Juneau was a Sunday morning September 28, 1996 from FAI.

Urban legend has it that DL flight was said to have missed JNU more than it got it because of the weather. The truth be known they actually got in more than they missed.

I think the technology you are referring to is Required Navigation Performance or RNP/GPS. AS pioneered it in JNU. You might enjoy reading this courtesy the Seattle Time http://seattletimes.com/html/travel/2020474137_alaskaflightsxml.html
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RE: Severe Weather Effecting DEN & Diversions

Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:22 am

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 5):
Although RNP/GPS has leveled the playing field against diversions to alternate airports due to weather; diversions still occur.

That depends. In many places, a standard ILS is your best option still.
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RE: Severe Weather Effecting DEN & Diversions

Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:16 am

Quoting greggariouspdx (Reply 6):
I lived in Juneau for a few years and used to fly the DL flight that went LAX-SEA-JNU-FAI.

These were originally WA flights inherited by DL, correct? Sorry to divert the thread.

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RE: Severe Weather Effecting DEN & Diversions

Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:42 am

[quote=GentFromAlaska,reply=7]Yes I remember the DL flights well. I believe it originated in SLC in the morning and then flew the schedule you mention. The last flight into Juneau was a Sunday morning September 28, 1996 from FAI.

Urban legend has it that DL flight was said to have missed JNU more than it got it because of the weather. The truth be known they actually got in more than they missed.

I think the technology you are referring to is Required Navigation Performance or RNP/GPS. AS pioneered it in JNU. You might enjoy reading this courtesy the Seattle Time http://seattletimes.com/html/travel/2020474137_alaskaflightsxml.htm

Loved the DL flight into JNU and hated it when they left, leaving AS with their lousy service and attitude.
 
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RE: Severe Weather Effecting DEN & Diversions

Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:08 am

Quoting rampart (Reply 9):
These were originally WA flights inherited by DL, correct? Sorry to divert the thread.

That is correct. WA in turn obtained routes from Pacific Northern.
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