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Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:42 pm

G'day and welcome to the Australian Aviation Thread # 79. In the previous thread, the following points were discussed/raised:

* Perth Airport to close RWY 06/24 for a period of 6 months due cracking
* Surge in Australia - Dubai traffic
* Jetstar to commence Adelaide - Auckland services from December 2013
* ACC and trans-Tasman services
* Australia - South Africa services
* Qantas cancels planned delivery of a 747-400F
* Qantas to rollout Q-Streaming system on its A330 fleet
* Qantas announces intention to codeshare with Jet Airways of India over Hong Kong
* ACCC gives the green light to the VA / NZ trans-Tasman agreement until 2018
* Accor to take over management of some Qantas Lounges
* Jetstar Asia announces expansion plans under expanded Singapore-Indonesia bilateral
* Jetstar to commence MEL-HKT services from December 2013 and increase SIN / HNL
* Singapore - Osaka and Beijing Jetstar A330 services cancelled from end November 2013
* QantasLink Dash 8-200 visits Darwin as part of a Captain's Choice Tour
* Air New Zealand given green light to increase stake in Virgin Australia
* Virgin Australia's ownership
* Dubbo Airport to provide subsidy to attract more airlines
* Brindabella Airlines reamed for poor OTP, meets with locals to discuss services
* Gold Air Bendigo closer to launching Bendigo - Melbourne (Essendon) flights
* QantasLink 717-200s to operate services ex-Hobart
* QantasLink 717-200 flying ex-Canberra
* Qantas' profit for the 2012-2013 FY
* Expression of interest for Our Airline 733 charter flight ex-Brisbane in Nov / Dec
* Sydney Airport masterplan
* Australian and New Zealand airlines and China
* Qantas rolls out 767-300 VH-OGG sporting Disney "Planes" decals
* Jetstar's first 787 VH-VKA airborne once again (test flights)
* Bendigo Airport - possible new flights / routes
* Jetstar 787 paintscheme
* AN124 flight into Perth
* Jetstar launches dedicated Dreamliner website for its 787
* Singapore Airlines Brisbane flights
* United 839 diverts to Brisbane, as well as a HA A330 (first HA A330 visit to BNE)
* Allegiant Air model - success in Australia?

Australian Aviation Thread # 78
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:20 pm

Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 201):
One thing I was looking at yesterday was JQ and where it can grow from MEL, with substantial extra terminal space in the new T4 coming online in a couple of years. Where exactly can people see them targeting?

With QF saying goodbye to 763s on domestic routes within a couple of years, and the replacements mainly 738s, I see JQ picking up the lost discount Y capacity on routes to SYD & BNE. Possible new routes from MEL for JQ? AYQ, PPP, MKY would be a start. At a stretch I could see VLI, PQQ or even BME to supplement QF's flights. BME is a market ripe for competition as fares are quite high, but I hear it's a very expensive place all round.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:24 pm

VIRGIN AUSTRALIA

* On 17 September 2013, Virgin Australia's Newman services began operating out of Terminal 3 at Perth
* Virgin Australia has now begun using the new Terminal at Denpasar / Bali Airport for all arrivals. Departing Virgin Australia flights will continue to operate from the old terminal, immediately adjacent to the new terminal

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* VA's dedicated A330 gate at Brisbane Airport will close over the coming days in preparation for gate and aerobridge works. Upon completion, Gate 40 will be able to take an A330 or two 737-sized aircraft concurrently (much like the setup at the International Terminal). BAC is also expected to commence works shortly on the expansion of the tarmac surrounding the Virgin Australia section of the terminal.

VIRGIN AUSTRALIA UNVEILS THE FUTURE OF IN-FLIGHT ENTERTAINMENT

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Virgin Australia has officially launched its new Wireless Inflight Entertainment system, representing a new era in the way travellers experience entertainment in the sky.

The entertainment platform is the first of its kind in the Asia Pacific region, giving customers the ability to stream content to their own devices, including smartphones, laptops and tablets, through in- built wireless technology on board.

Following a successful trial earlier this year, Virgin Australia is now extending the wireless innovation across its domestic and short-haul international network. Thirty-seven (37) aircraft are now fitted out with the new technology, including aircraft operating on routes to New Zealand and the Pacific Islands, which went live earlier this week. The roll-out across Virgin Australia’s Boeing 737-800 and Embraer E190 fleet will be complete before the end of the year.

Virgin Australia Chief Customer Officer Mark Hassell said: “At Virgin Australia, we are passionate about customer experience, and that often means redefining travel. We know that in-flight entertainment is a key driver in customer satisfaction. Our research shows that around 90% of our customers travel with at least one smartphone, laptop or tablet.

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I have had the pleasure of using VA's new streaming IFE system and I have to say I am extremely impressed. The system was flawless and has plenty to keep passengers entertained. It's pleasing to see that a moving map is available, and quite a good one at that. I guess the main downside with such a system is that your device ultimately needs to be fully charged prior to use, especially on longer sectors such as Australia - Samoa, Phuket and Denpasar / Bali.


BRISBANE AIRPORT

Brisbane Airport Corporation has released plans for its new, dedicated Charter Terminal to be built north of the existing Domestic Terminal (QF area). BAC expects to commence construction on the facility Q1 2014, with completion sometime in Q1 2015.

Brisbane Charter Terminal

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In the last few years, the growth in Fly-In/Fly-Out (FIFO) and charter operations at Brisbane Airport has prompted Brisbane Airport Corporation (BAC) to review how this market segment may best be accommodated and managed.

The proposed Brisbane Charter Terminal (BCT) purpose built facility is to consolidate a sector of FIFO and charter operations at Brisbane Airport and will be managed by Brisbane Airport Corporation.

The BCT will be located in existing General Aviation area, north-east of the Domestic Terminal positioned on the corner of Acacia Street and Dryandra Road.

The Draft Major Development Plan for the proposed BCT has been prepared under the Airports Act 1996 (Cth) and is available for public comment for a period of 60 business days.

This draft Major Development Plan will be available on the website for public comment until COB Wednesday 16 October 2013.



Brisbane Airport Corporation has also lodged a draft MDP to expand DFO. The extension to the DFO includes the addition of retail space, mixed use commercial building with retail plaza and alfresco dining integrating with the Village Markets by a pedestrian walkway. A new multi-level car park will provide extra parking for DFO and centre visitors - source


GOLDAIR BENDIGO

The airline via its FB page has said it is awaiting regulatory approval to commence Bendigo - Melbourne (Essdendon) services and anticipates commencing flights towards the end of October.


WELLCAMP / TOOWOOMBA AIRPORT

It's full steam ahead in terms of construction of the new Wellcamp / Toowoomba Airport. Credit where credit is due, Wagners need to be commended for their determination and pace in terms of the speed of construction. It's amazing to think that come next year Toowoomba will go from having an airport barely capable of taking anything larger than a Dash 8-300, to an airport that will be capable of facilitating 737s, A330s and 747s.

Wagner family's airport dream ready to take flight

Toowoomba Chronicle

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WAGNERS managing director Denis Wagner is looking forward to the day next year when the first plane takes off from the Wellcamp Airport.

He is especially looking forward to seeing the look on the faces of those people who genuinely thought the project would never get off the ground.

Mr Wagner said the multi-million dollar project has been in the pipeline for more than a decade, but it was only in April last year the family decided to go full steam ahead with the project.

"There was an element of commercial risk associated with the project," Mr Wagner said.

"We certainly did not make the decision to proceed lightly.

"I have no doubt the airport and business park will be a huge success."

Mr Wagner said work on the project had ramped up even further to ensure the construction schedule is met.

"Construction started in April this year and we have more than 65 people working full-time on the project," he said.

"The three-kilometre runway is starting to take shape and is due to be completed by February next year.


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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:21 pm

Quoting QF175 (Reply 2):
GOLDAIR BENDIGO

I'm not in any way superstitious, except sometimes. In my business the word "gold" in any title or name is considered extremely unlucky and I don't see any point in tempting fate - just in case.  

But while I think this little airline has a hard row to hoe, I'm, keeping my fingers crossed.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:13 pm

QUick question:

How long will VH-OGG's Planes decals will remain on for?
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:55 pm

Quoting madog (Reply 4):
How long will VH-OGG's Planes decals will remain on for?

I've been told it's until the aircraft retires in March 2014, though that seems a bit long unless the video release is delayed. Not that I mind admiring it until then!

[Edited 2013-09-23 16:56:26]
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:45 am

Palmer is looking at using the balance of power in the Senate from mid 2014 to upgrade MCY.

http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au...lmer-flexes-muscle/2030061/?ref=hs

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CLIVE Palmer will use any balance of power the Palmer United Party achieves in the Senate to ensure he delivers for the Sunshine Coast, with an international airport at Maroochydore high on his priorities.

Mr Palmer made the commitment as a full distribution of preferences began yesterday at the Australian Electoral Commission counting room at Maroochydore.

He sits on a knife's edge 36-vote lead over the LNP's Ted O'Brien.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:14 am

Quoting sq256 (Reply 6):
Palmer is looking at using the balance of power in the Senate from mid 2014 to upgrade MCY.

It might need upgrading to handle an A380 as I'm sure he will require a presidential class jet to shuttle him between his electorate and Canberra, which is unfortunately not equipped for visits by the Royal Yacht (Titanic II).

Anyway, MCY is already an international airport, if only seasonally (also more than you can say of CBR).
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:48 am

TG's BNE services.

They are changing their operating schedule slightly out of BNE, please see below

BNE-BKK TG474 1335/1945
BKK-BNE TG473 2359/1205+1

As you can see BKK-BNE remains the same. The change is on BNE-BKK. This will make for better connections onwards to DEL and possibly some other destinations.

This is effective 27OCT13.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:56 am

Oh... the man gets power and gets even more demanding... I'm scared  
Quoting QFVHOQA (Reply 1):
With QF saying goodbye to 763s on domestic routes within a couple of years, and the replacements mainly 738s, I see JQ picking up the lost discount Y capacity on routes to SYD & BNE.

I could see this to a point, but I guess they will see what TT does.

As we have seen in the past, JQ have been very agressive in following TT's moves and adjusting their route network to counter that.

Quoting QFVHOQA (Reply 1):
Possible new routes from MEL for JQ? AYQ, PPP, MKY would be a start. At a stretch I could see VLI, PQQ or even BME to supplement QF's flights. BME is a market ripe for competition as fares are quite high, but I hear it's a very expensive place all round.

Some interesting choices there.

I could see some more Queensland routes (MKY, PPP) but I do wonder if they may try some more interesting choices. Toowoomba's building a new airport. Is that maybe a JQ route in future? Yes its left field, but hey who knows.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:44 am

PQQ with A320s? Loooooooooooong way down the track methinks, especially from MEL...
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:10 am

Quoting QF175 (Reply 2):
I have had the pleasure of using VA's new streaming IFE system and I have to say I am extremely impressed. The system was flawless and has plenty to keep passengers entertained. It's pleasing to see that a moving map is available, and quite a good one at that. I guess the main downside with such a system is that your device ultimately needs to be fully charged prior to use, especially on longer sectors such as Australia - Samoa, Phuket and Denpasar / Bali.

It's great to know that the moving map is available. Does anyone know if the map is available on QF's 767 iPads?

BYOD IFE needs power to the seat and preferably not just USB charging. Will VA be providing this as well? I still prefer seatback entertainment, in part because it means fewer devices required per family, plus you can often use it from gate to gate.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:49 am

Quoting allrite (Reply 11):
It's great to know that the moving map is available. Does anyone know if the map is available on QF's 767 iPads?

Nope, the QF 767 iPads do not have a moving map.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:14 am

Virgin Australia is about to take delivery of its next A330-200 (number 7), VH-XFH. Like VH-XFG, it appears the aircraft will operate Toulouse - Melbourne nonstop, arriving late on Thursday night.

That's one looooooong flight!
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:58 am

Quoting QF175 (Reply 13):
Virgin Australia is about to take delivery of its next A330-200 (number 7), VH-XFH. Like VH-XFG, it appears the aircraft will operate Toulouse - Melbourne nonstop, arriving late on Thursday night.

Qantas I understand delivered most if not all its A330-200's except VH-EBA non-stop from TLS to MEL, which at the time was the longest ever flight operated by a wide bodied twin engined aircraft.

Also heard that QF plan to finally replace it's B767 aircraft from Sydney to Honolulu from late 2014 with A330's, mind you I haven't seen it confirmed anywhere yet.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:15 am

Tonight's HKG-SYD CX139 SYD-HKG CX138 service was upgraded to a B744 equipment due to typhoon Usagi backlog.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:43 pm

The first of the 'new' QantasLink 717s, N406BC, began its ferry to Australia on 23 September US time. It should become VH-YQS according to the seat map on qantas.com

Has flown Cecil, FL to Billings, MT to Anchorage, AK so far as Southern Cross 1078. I can't find any further routings including where it will arrive in Oz and be prepared for service entry, though I assume either BNE (first revenue service is BNE-CBR) or CBR (easier to get 'slots' for crew training?) or of course ADL (the home of Cobham).

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Boeing 717 -2BL 55178 5128 VH- Cobham / Qantaslink delivery 23sep13 VQQ-BIL-ANC, N-reg ex N406BC

[Edited 2013-09-24 05:55:24]
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:51 pm

Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 16):

The 1st B717 will be Canberra based according to another forum.  http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/emerbot/null_zps6848fdde.jpg[/QUOTE]

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:59 pm

Yes, CBR based but will operate its first revenue service ex-BNE. Also I'm unsure if CBR has the facilities to do the Mx work on a 717 any more, the former VQ hangar (which was built for 717s) has been used for C130 and most recently Q400s.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:00 pm

I think you will find the 717 will be delivered to ADL before it goes into service on BNE-CBR.

Yesterday BNE had it's busiest day ever for aircraft movements approx 720 (To be confirmed).Last month BNE was the 2nd busiest airport for movements in Australia after SYD even beating Bankstown,Jandakot etc.

http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/...-Movement-Snapshot-August-2013.pdf
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:44 am

Quoting QF175 (Reply 2):
VIRGIN AUSTRALIA UNVEILS THE FUTURE OF IN-FLIGHT ENTERTAINMENT

Here is an idea, how about pre flight entertainment (BYOD) using the same system in the VA lounges or even at the VA gates? Surely has to be a point of difference. Enjoy the same items in the lounge/at the gate and onboard.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:55 am

Quoting QF175 (Reply 2):
VIRGIN AUSTRALIA UNVEILS THE FUTURE OF IN-FLIGHT ENTERTAINMENT

I absolutely agree that streaming is the "future of in-flight entertainment" but IMHO it can only be effective where either the airline provides the device (QF) or the airline provides power points (yes real power points) which UA will do.

Expecting passengers to use their own devise but not providing them with the ability to charge it could be problematic, especially on longer flights which in when IFE comes into its own.

Hopefully this is something that VA is planning to rectify.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:51 am

Quoting eaglefarm4 (Reply 19):

I think you will find the 717 will be delivered to ADL before it goes into service on BNE-CBR.

Yep, any Cobham-operated/maintained aircraft - 146/RJ, 717 and Dash 8 - will always be delivered to their home base in ADL. It's also generally where all the heavy maintenance will take place, regardless of where the aircraft is based thereafter.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:44 pm

Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 16):

Skyliner:
Boeing 717 -2BL 55178 5128 VH- Cobham / Qantaslink delivery 23sep13 VQQ-BIL-ANC, N-reg ex N406BC

The aircraft has been in storage, but was previously operated by Mexicana Click. The first aircraft won't be based in CBR, but out of BNE as the port is already familiar with 717 ops. Subsequent aircraft will be CBR based.

http://www.carry-on.com.au/blog/qantasnew717/

Quoting VH-BZF (Reply 14):
Qantas I understand delivered most if not all its A330-200's except VH-EBA non-stop from TLS to MEL, which at the time was the longest ever flight operated by a wide bodied twin engined aircraft.

VH-XFH has just arrived in MEL in 20 hrs 45mins: http://ow.ly/peMz3

QF Group #A330s -EBB, -EBC, -EBF were all delivered TLS-MEL direct, -EBQ delivered TLS-SYD. SYD further than MEL. Rumour is Virgin delivered two of their A330s over a longer routing to beat Qantas' record.

[Edited 2013-09-26 07:27:56]
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:15 am

Virgin announced twice weekly BNE-Cloncurry services starting in November on Wednesday and Friday with E-190'S.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:00 am

Quoting eaglefarm4 (Reply 24):
Virgin announced twice weekly BNE-Cloncurry services starting in November on Wednesday and Friday with E-190

That's an interesting addition. I assume that they have the support of some mining company or other for that it acts as a quasi-charter, and I wish them all the best on the route. It is good to see VA branching out into more regional Queensland flying as it is a market that QantasLink has milked for many years (and one of the most profitable networks in the entire Group) and some competition won't hurt anyone.

It will be interesting to see how Qantas respond as they currently don't fly BNE-CNJ. If this is indeed a quasi-charter then there probably is much they can or will do, but if it isn't then they might look at opening this route in the future. Tit for tat, sure, but I would expect them to defend their turf in regional Queensland.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:34 am

Virgin's Cloncurry service is of considerable historical significance.

This is what I wrote elsewhere:

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A new page will be turned in the illustrious history of flight in the vast outback of Queensland on 27 November when Virgin Australia starts twice weekly non-stop flights between Cloncurry and Brisbane using Embraer E190 jets.

The event will not for a moment shade the great story of the very first scheduled Q.A.N.T.A.S flights between Charleville and Cloncurry which began in 1922, nor the hard won pioneering extension of its network directly into Brisbane in 1929.

But it will be a moment to reflect on how such a vast, and to this day, tough land played such a foundation role in the start of commercial aviation, while the action, measured in metrics of passengers and freight-times-distance flew away in a progression of bigger, faster, flying contraptions, into a different more rapidly changing world compared to the isolated community experience that is found to this day ‘out back.’

Consider this. The role of the early Queensland and Northern Territory Aerial Services flights was to get people and mail to the railway stations where they could board steam engine drawn wooden carriages of intricately crafted construction for incredibly slow and long journeys to the small capital town on the lower reaches of the Brisbane River.

Less than 100 years later Australia has become a continent of only five truely modestly sized cities by the standards of the early 21st century, and the outback, while far more comfortable and civilised than it was before aviation and radio stations, remains amazingly remote and ‘wide open’, a long way off the beaten highways and flyways of our times.

In this context, an airline like Virgin Australia, announcing a non-stop 98 seat jet service , is not ‘just another addition to a regional network.’ It is the arrival of a time machine.

The new flights will straighten out, and radically shorten the air access between Cloncurry and Brisbane, which until they start, has been via Mt Isa or Townsville.

Flying the route, in what is the premier single aisle airliner in the world for cabin space in business or economy seating, will be a somewhat surreal transition between an outback the airline pioneers of the 1920s would still recognise and the stupendous river city from what for them would have been the unimaginable future that is our present.

(unquote)

There are great histories of Q.A.N.T.A.S accessible online which deal with those early years and the town's firm grip if you visit it, on being the destination for the first scheduled fare paying customer for the airline.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:49 am

Anyone know what extra flights or capacity was put on for Freo fans to head to Melbourne?

Hearing stories that some went via Bali and even Singapore just to get to Melbourne from Perth.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:14 am

Looks like Qantas will be 'trialling' all day check in for flights leaving SYD T1.
Interestingly you are 'not allowed' to leave the terminal.
http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-trial...-international-flights-from-sydney
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:14 am

Currrently bne-Cloncurry is operated by Alliance on closed Fifo flights 4 times a week and they also leave on Wednesday and Fridays as well with 2 flights both days.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:32 am

A question I've been thinking about for a while:

Considering the current state of Australia-Africa flights, Africa's (especially East Africa's) gradual but steady economic development and the increasing number of middle class that's going to reside in that region, the increasing number of Africans who live in Australia (I know of sizable Somali and Sudanese and a not insignificant Ethiopian communities in Melbourne), is it conceivable that we might see direct flights from the likes of ET or KQ to MEL and SYD in the near future?

I know that the big 3 ME carriers currently service this market, but surely a direct flight is going to be a lot more convenient and can be a lot more economical? The distances from NBO and ADD to Australia are comparable to DXB, so they don't even need a ULH bird or anything like that. Then there is the fact that KQ is part of Sky Team and they surely can't be very happy with how they are servicing the Australian market, so they would definitely love to see KQ come into Australia. Which also means any airline operating these routes could potentially also steal a percentage of the juicy Australia-Europe traffic.

Is it just me, or is there really an opening in the market?
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:36 am

Quoting bwwt (Reply 28):
Quoting AusBT:
There's only one caveat: Qantas says that you can't leave the airport. That means there's no dropping off your checked luggage in the morning for an evening flight, then heading into Sydney for the day

That will, of course, be totally unenforceable. Even if you checked in and then didn't proceed through security and customs until 6 hours later, they wouldn't be able to prove that you simply weren't chilling landside rather than having a jolly in CBD.

Personally I think that it is a great idea! This will be especially useful for people who are connecting from regional centres (on separate bookings) that only see a handful of flights per day. To use an example, my girlfriend is flying ARM-SYD-LHR on QF, but booked separately, and has a 6.5 hour layover in SYD. The next flight from ARM would have cut the connection too fine (something like 90 minutes) which you wouldn't want to do if you have to reclaim your bags, change terminals by train/TBus, line up for check-in again etc. Being able to check-in and dump her case, rather than drag it around mindlessly for 4 hours, will make a huge difference, as it would free you up to do something "useful" with that time (even if it's only go aside and admire the prices in Duty Free) rather than be restricted from what you can do by having your case with you.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:16 am

Quoting carryon (Reply 23):
VH-XFH has just arrived in MEL in 20 hrs 45mins:

Flew over the top of my home, looking very nice, with a quite distinctive sound, sounding very "shrill". Good to see a 717 back at MEL.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:18 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 31):
Being able to check-in and dump her case, rather than drag it around mindlessly for 4 hours, will make a huge difference,

She should be able to check her bags through from ARM to LHR and then do whatever she wants while she's in Sydney anyway... that's what my family's always done ex-PQQ.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:21 am

Quoting QF175 (Reply 2):
* On 17 September 2013, Virgin Australia's Newman services began operating out of Terminal 3 at Perth

Just to clarify. Virgin have flown to ZNE from T3 for a long time, however, the services that are operated by Virgin Australia Regional Airlines, on their A320s, will also operate from T3 now.

Quoting QF175 (Reply 13):

Virgin Australia is about to take delivery of its next A330-200 (number 7), VH-XFH. Like VH-XFG, it appears the aircraft will operate Toulouse - Melbourne nonstop, arriving late on Thursday night.

Saw it overfly me yesterday night.

Quoting flyinghighboy (Reply 27):

Anyone know what extra flights or capacity was put on for Freo fans to head to Melbourne?

Hearing stories that some went via Bali and even Singapore just to get to Melbourne from Perth.

Yesterday, I estimate about 80% of pax on the PER-ADL VA722 flight were wearing Purple. Both the SYD and BNE overnight flight were filled with mostly MEL connecting passengers. Even the flight to KGI had quite a few purple-clad passengers connecting to the VARA F100 flight to MEL from KGI. Virgin are flying quite a few extra flights today, incuding an extra overnight flight. Tiger is flying an extra flight overnight, and I believe Alliance has a flight scheduled to Essendon today.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:32 am

Quoting skyhawkmatthew (Reply 33):
She should be able to check her bags through from ARM to LHR and then do whatever she wants while she's in Sydney anyway

On separate tickets? In the past Qantas Domestic have refused when I've done the same BNE-SYD-xxx. Maybe they are more accommodating in those smaller regional stations?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:55 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 35):
On separate tickets? In the past Qantas Domestic have refused when I've done the same BNE-SYD-xxx. Maybe they are more accommodating in those smaller regional stations?

Yeah, separate tickets. We tend to book the overseas portion through the travel agent then just book our own PQQ-SYD-PQQ return. They will even check it beyond the first overseas port, e.g. PQQ-SYD-LAX-LAS. Had to collect the bags at LAX for customs but then just put them on the 'connecting baggage' belt as they were already tagged to LAS.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:16 am

Quoting TN486 (Reply 32):
Quoting carryon (Reply 23):
VH-XFH has just arrived in MEL in 20 hrs 45mins:

Flew over the top of my home, looking very nice, with a quite distinctive sound, sounding very "shrill". Good to see a 717 back at MEL.

Brainsnap, post was a reference to a 717, which had nothing to do with the post referring to XFH   
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:19 am

Amazing to see the demand from WA to MEL for tomorrow's match.The purple sure has invaded this city.

Many stakeholders must be having a big party at the amount of demand this has created and the benefits to their organisations, including transport companies, hotels and cafes.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:18 pm

Quoting flyinghighboy (Reply 27):

Anyone know what extra flights or capacity was put on for Freo fans to head to Melbourne?

Hearing stories that some went via Bali and even Singapore just to get to Melbourne from Perth.

Qantas has bumped up capacity on PER-MEL route by positioning a B744 & operating additional A330 / B763 East-West services.
Virgin apparently struggled due to the lack of spare frames and added additional 5,500 seats to deal with the large influx of supporters.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:56 pm

Quoting flyinghighboy (Reply 27):

Anyone know what extra flights or capacity was put on for Freo fans to head to Melbourne?

Cobham sent three aircraft to Essendon via ADL (146-200, -300 and a RJ100).
B738-9/744ER/752/753/763/77L/773/77W/A320/332/333/388/MD82/717/F100/RJ85/RJ100/146-100/200/300
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:43 am

Qantas will be taking delivery of a 737-800 with a new indigenous scheme. The aircraft will arrive in the fleet in November.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busi...ember/story-e6frg95x-1226730000067
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:23 am

Quoting bwwt (Reply 41):

OMGOMGOMG!!! SO EXCITED TO SEE THIS!!!

This is great news, and it will be interesting to see what she looks like. I think that it's great that QF are continuing this tradition. Wunala was obviously repainted last year, and Yananyi is starting to look decidedly faded so I'm expecting her to be repainted shortly. I was [sadly] expecting that to be the end of this theme, so it's good to hear that it will continue.

Incidentally, I finally caught a ride on Yananyi a couple of weeks ago, which was very exciting after flying Wunala last year in the standard colour scheme. I was scared I was never going to get any of them!
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:47 am

According to Brisbane Times, Emirates upgauges BNE to an A380 starting from Wednesday:

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/trav...-of-confidence-20130928-2ukvx.html

The flight schedule on emirates.com confirms this starting with EK434 arriving at 06:05 AM Wednesday.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:39 am

Quoting wisborg (Reply 44):
According to Brisbane Times, Emirates upgauges BNE to an A380 starting from Wednesday:

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/trav...-of-confidence-20130928-2ukvx.html

Some interesting comments on that story. I'm guessing a few members from here  

Great to see BNE getting its first scheduled A380 flights. Took a few years but it finally came.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:47 am

YES been doing plane spotting for 50 years.The gentleman in the story is a friend of mine and we are involved in the new viewing area development .Love the hobby.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:48 am

I was at the current BNE spotting area to watch the first A380's visit back in 05. Couldn't believe how quiet she was when she took off. FINALLY we get a regular whalejet 

On a separate note, can someone shed some light onto why EY continue to route into BNE via SIN? Is it because they don't have enough long haulers to fly direct from AUH? With QF and EK dailies between SIN and BNE and SQ's thrice daily service, I can't imagine EY would be profiting much from BNE-SIN traffic....
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:31 pm

Quoting TN486 (Reply 37):
Brainsnap, post was a reference to a 717, which had nothing to do with the post referring to XFH

When was there a 717 in MEL?
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:05 am

Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 47):

Impulse (inc QantasLink ops) and Jetstar
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread # 79

Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:23 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 48):
Impulse (inc QantasLink ops) and Jetstar

I thought TN486 meant just recently, sorry.

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