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SAS MD-81 Retirement Schedule

Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:45 pm

I will be flying on one of the last MD-81 flights in October from CPH-MAN. This got me thinking when the last will be retired for good? I have an inkling they will all be gone by the end of October...
 
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RE: SAS MD-81 Retirement Schedule

Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:52 pm

Last scheduled flight is ARN-CPH October 26

And just to be a little picky: they're all MD-82s  
 
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RE: SAS MD-81 Retirement Schedule

Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:38 pm

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 1):
And just to be a little picky: they're all MD-82s

No they're not. I flew CPH-DUS last month and the metal stamp on the inside of the doorway specifically said "DC-9-81."
 
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RE: SAS MD-81 Retirement Schedule

Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:53 pm

Quoting abrown532 (Thread starter):

I will be flying on one of the last MD-81 flights in October from CPH-MAN.

They only have MD-82s left.

Quoting awacsooner (Reply 2):
No they're not. I flew CPH-DUS last month and the metal stamp on the inside of the doorway specifically said "DC-9-81."

SAS converted most, if not all, of their MD-81s to MD-82s a good while ago and the remainders were retired. So whilst it was built as an MD-81, it will have been re-certified as an MD-82 when you flew it. I had the same experience a few years ago.


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RE: SAS MD-81 Retirement Schedule

Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:12 pm

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 3):
SAS converted most, if not all, of their MD-81s to MD-82s a good while ago and the remainders were retired. So whilst it was built as an MD-81, it will have been re-certified as an MD-82 when you flew it. I had the same experience a few years ago.

Good info for people who aren't in the know.
 
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RE: SAS MD-81 Retirement Schedule

Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:31 am

This will truly be a sad event for Douglas fans as this is the final blow for the DC-9 lineage operating for a major carrier in Europe. The encore will be when KLM retires the MD-11. This will close Douglas' very successful run in Europe that dated back to the KLM DC-2 nearly 80 years ago and has included nearly every Douglas type (including the DC-5). Hopefully, there will be some sort of celebration.
 
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RE: SAS MD-81 Retirement Schedule

Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:59 am

This will really be the end of an era for SAS, a long time operator of the DC-9 / MD-80 Series aircraft. SAS started operations in 1946 with a DC-4, they always flew Douglas planes ever since. It is hard to believe that, in the first time in its whole history, SAS will be "Douglas" free. SAS is the only airline in Europe still flying the MD-80.

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RE: SAS MD-81 Retirement Schedule

Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:34 am

Does anyone have pictures of the stored SAS M80's in Blytheville, Arkansas? The two -82's I was lucky enough to fly on have been stored there for a few months now and I would be interested to see the line up. I saw one of the last -82's at AMS the other day, and boy will I miss those fantastic aircraft. It hurts to see the daily SAS rush hour at AMS which are now just boring Airbi and Boeing where there used to be 3 -82's lined up next to each other!

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RE: SAS MD-81 Retirement Schedule

Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:52 am

Quoting American 767 (Reply 6):
SAS is the only airline in Europe still flying the MD-80.

Not accurate...Meridiana still has them.
 
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RE: SAS MD-81 Retirement Schedule

Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:12 am

Quoting crownvic (Reply 5):
This will close Douglas' very successful run in Europe that dated back to the KLM DC-2 nearly 80 years ago and has included nearly every Douglas type (including the DC-5)

Actually, the DC-5 never went to Europe. They flew for KLM's Dutch East Indies (Indonesia) subsidiary and briefly for KLM's carribean operation (Antilles). According to the Dutch wikipedia entry the planes where not really suitable for carribean operations, so they too went to the East Indies operation. Following the Japanese invasion one was captured by Japan and the other three fled to Australia and were sold to the USAAF.
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RE: SAS MD-81 Retirement Schedule

Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:03 pm

Glad I got my SK fill in January this year, BRU - CPH - DUB. Loved every second of it.

Quoting awacsooner (Reply 8):
Not accurate...Meridiana still has them.

Yep, I often get to see them in AHO or CAG. Nice to see them pottering around.

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RE: SAS MD-81 Retirement Schedule

Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:42 pm

As noted, this is a monumental retirement, given the history between SK and Douglas. I expect SK will honor the MD-80 series and it's service in some way. Just as AZ and JL did the past year, (the latter with the MD-90).

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 3):
SAS converted most, if not all, of their MD-81s to MD-82s a good while ago and the remainders were retired. So whilst it was built as an MD-81, it will have been re-certified as an MD-82 when you flew it. I had the same experience a few years ago.

Good point. To add, fleet-wide, SK upgraded their MD-80s with EFIS flight-decks and tail-cone mods in the early/mid '90s. An aircraft delivered as a MD-81 originally, is now basically an MD-88 on -217Cs. The engine and the payload are what technically distinguish them as MD-82s.

Quoting crownvic (Reply 5):

This will truly be a sad event for Douglas fans as this is the final blow for the DC-9 lineage operating for a major carrier in Europe. The encore will be when KLM retires the MD-11.

How ironic is it that the MD-11 will outlast the MD-80 with flagship carriers in Europe? In the US, the opposite is true and by 20 years when it's all said and done.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 7):

Does anyone have pictures of the stored SAS M80's in Blytheville, Arkansas?

No pictures; but they won't last long. The frames are being parted-out for DL. LN-RMT just arrived on Tuesday.
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RE: SAS MD-81 Retirement Schedule

Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:15 pm

Quoting TrijetsRMissed (Reply 11):
SK upgraded their MD-80s with EFIS flight-decks and tail-cone mods in the early/mid '90s. An aircraft delivered as a MD-81 originally, is now basically an MD-88 on -217Cs. The engine and the payload are what technically distinguish them as MD-82s.

To be precise, they are certified as DC-9-82. Only the MD-88 are 'true' MD's.  

Example: OY-KGT - now N485DN

http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=485DN
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RE: SAS MD-81 Retirement Schedule

Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:19 am

Quoting LN-MOW (Reply 12):
To be precise, they are certified as DC-9-82. Only the MD-88 are 'true' MD's.  

Yeah, sure. Let me tell you, as someone who consulted for MDC for nearly 20 years during it's heyday, you wouldn't find a single sales or marketing material item with "DC-9-82" after 1983. Even in the RFQs, MOUs etc, the certified nomenclature was not more than a footnote at the bottom of the contract... which BTW, did include SK... Why remain DC-9-82s? Re-certifying aircraft is not free; let alone three - MD-81/82/83. (The MD-87 came after this decision).

Of course if we're going to be anal, I should point out the the MD-88 is not alone as a "true MD." MD-90 anyone?  
Quoting LN-MOW (Reply 12):
Example: OY-KGT - now N485DN

Now - yet to be disassembled MD-88 spare-part inventory, more like it.
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RE: SAS MD-81 Retirement Schedule

Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:57 pm

Quoting American 767 (Reply 6):
in the first time in its whole history, SAS will be "Douglas" free.

In a way not: their subsidiary Blue1 will still be flying the MD-95 (B717)  
 
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RE: SAS MD-81 Retirement Schedule

Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:33 am

Quoting eirik (Reply 14):
Quoting American 767 (Reply 6):
in the first time in its whole history, SAS will be "Douglas" free.

In a way not: their subsidiary Blue1 will still be flying the MD-95 (B717)  

   Very true, eirik.

Furthermore, technically SK still own the 8 MD-90s that are leased to DL through early 2016.
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