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7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:26 pm

Just saw this...

Today is the final day of 7 of RDU based flight attendants who fly the LHR route. These ladies have been with the airline since the RDU base opened. When AA offered early retirement earlier in the year, 28 of the 75 based flight attendants too the offer.

Read at News and Observer..

[Edited 2013-09-27 16:08:33]
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:33 am

A few months ago, AA173 got a water cannon salute on arrival for a young lady who was retiring after 55 years of In-Flight with AA. Her whole family was brought to the grassy area behind T2, near the Manager's parking lot to see it. Amazing how long some of these folks have been flying.
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:15 am

There have been flight attendant retirements almost daily at AA this month, as it is the last month for the "buyout retirement." This month alone, over 600 fa's are retiring, completing the 2,256 that accepted AA's buyout offer.

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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:17 am

We had 4 retiring on a flight from FRA last weekend. Good for them!
 
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:30 am

Congratulations to them, good luck on their future endeavors.
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:17 am

I imagine these high seniority employees are expensive. As these FA's retire, is AA bringing in new recruits or was the buyout designed to reduce the overall FA numbers? Was the offer only extended to near retirement crew?
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:07 pm

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 5):
I imagine these high seniority employees are expensive. As these FA's retire, is AA bringing in new recruits or was the buyout designed to reduce the overall FA numbers? Was the offer only extended to near retirement crew?

It's a common misconception that airline employees who have been working 30, 40+ years would be more expensive to pay than more junior employees. While this is partially true, most flight attendant pay steps at major airlines do not go past 15 years. So essentially, if you have a 36 year old flight attendant who has been working since the age of 21, he/she earns the same amount as a 65 year old flight attendant working 44 years.

The payscale tops out at a certain point, and then all employees earn the same amount above a certain number of years of service. Typically, it's between 12 and 15 years. I'm not exactly sure at what year American's tops out.
 
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:04 pm

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 5):

Yes, AA has been graduating classes of new F/A's, in part to replace some that have departed.

[Edited 2013-09-28 07:14:50]
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:07 pm

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 5):
As these FA's retire, is AA bringing in new recruits or was the buyout designed to reduce the overall FA numbers?

Yes, AA announced plans last fall to hire 1500+ starting in 2013, and to date, roughly 800 have completed training and are flying.

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Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:16 pm

Quoting flyfree727 (Reply 8):
Yes, AA announced plans last fall to hire 1500+ starting in 2013, and to date, roughly 800 have completed training and are flying.

  

I cannot remember the last time I was on a DFW-LAX flight where there weren't new hires onboard. Just flew it last weekend and there were two trainees working the flight - one in F and one in Y.
 
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:09 pm

Quoting flyfree727 (Reply 8):
Yes, AA announced plans last fall to hire 1500+ starting in 2013, and to date, roughly 800 have completed training and are flying.

Good morning! Just a small correction. AA just graduated it's 1000th new hire. Plans are to continue starting classes weekly though the spring. I believe there were about 2,700 who took retirement.
Of course these plans are all subject to change with the uncertainty of the merger.
 
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:30 pm

Quoting commavia (Reply 9):
Just flew it last weekend and there were two trainees working the flight - one in F and one in Y.

Surprised they would have trainees working the First Class cabin. Isn't working F one of the benefits of seniority?
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:42 pm

Quoting fraspotter (Reply 11):
Surprised they would have trainees working the First Class cabin. Isn't working F one of the benefits of seniority?

They were trainees, i.e. additive to the crew, not in place of. So the flight had a normal staffing of FAs working their normal positions and normal pay scales, plus these two trainees observing and helping - one in F with the #1, and one in Y working the cart service.
 
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:36 pm

Does anyone new where the new F/As are being based? Are any of them being assigned to the west coast?
 
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:16 pm

Quoting fraspotter (Reply 11):
Surprised they would have trainees working the First Class cabin. Isn't working F one of the benefits of seniority?

Not sure about AA but at UA we could work any position (except purser) straight out of training. My first flight was working the business galley of a 767 transcon. I flew with many senior mama's that hated anything but coach.
 
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:54 am

Quoting fraspotter (Reply 11):
Isn't working F one of the benefits of seniority?

Or, for many, NOT working f/c is a benefit of seniority.

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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:55 am

Quoting fraspotter (Reply 11):
Isn't working F one of the benefits of seniority?

A lot of senior FA's think not working F is a benefit of their seniority. Not all FA's enjoy working in F. I would say it's pretty evenly split, or maybe even that more prefer to not work in F.
 
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:00 am

Let's hope Pam Ann doesn't hear about this. She'll do a sketch about Valerie finally retiring.  
 
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:22 am

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 17):
Let's hope Pam Ann doesn't hear about this. She'll do a sketch about Valerie finally retiring.  

That would be hysterical, but I would miss Valerie!
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:49 pm

Quoting caleb1 (Reply 13):

Up until last week, all new hires were going to NYC, MIA, DFW, ORD and DCA. Last week the first "out of training" new hires went to LAX (other new hires assigned elsewhere have been allowed to transfer in last month).
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:26 pm

I'm almost positive there was a new FA working F by herself on the evening RIC-DFW flight on 9-20.
 
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:36 pm

Quoting AAtakeMeAway (Reply 20):
I'm almost positive there was a new FA working F by herself on the evening RIC-DFW flight on 9-20.

You are correct.. Once they graduate from training, they become available to work any position they are qualified to work. That includes narrow body f/c on domestic flights. It is possible that 3 fas could be working their very first flight all together. Experienced? no so much. Qualified? Yes.

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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:43 pm

Don't all new hires wear silver wings? Fa's get gold wings after 5 yrs of service? I heard something to that affect years ago.
 
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:45 am

Quoting TUSAA (Reply 22):

Don't all new hires wear silver wings? Fa's get gold wings after 5 yrs of service? I heard something to that affect years ago.

That's still the case. All new hires have the silver wings.
 
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:22 am

New hire Finn speakers were on my ORD-HEL-ORD flights this July / August too, both in the J cabin doing a lot of the work. I was impressed with how well they were already integrating - on the way over the FA was only on her second revenue trip but I could have confused the professionalism and attention to detail with someone who had been doing that job for years. Maybe I don't have an eye for it.
 
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:50 pm

Flew an SFO-ORD segment last Wednesday (9/25) and one of the SFO-based FA's was on her last trip, she'd been with AA for 45 years.
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RE: 7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire

Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:02 pm

Quoting fraspotter (Reply 11):
Surprised they would have trainees working the First Class cabin. Isn't working F one of the benefits of seniority?

We all learn at some point. And as other folks have said, working F isn't always a "luxury" or prize position.
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