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787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:04 pm

Good afternoon Ladies and Gents,

As part 20 has become quite long and may in some instances be slow to load, please feel free to contribute in this thread. Part 20 can be found here:

787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 20 (by jetblueguy22 Sep 7 2013 in Civil Aviation)

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:30 pm

We should see LAN (Everett) & Hainan (Charleston) 787's flyaway today. Perhaps we'll be surprised by Qatar and LAN (Charleston) tomorrow.
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:07 pm

Anyone have the flight number of the Hainan 787? (nonstop to PEK)

I live in Charleston and would love to see this bird take flight!
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:02 pm

LAN CC-BBD (LN118) delivery flight scheduled to depart KPAE at 18:10:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/L...7/history/20130930/0100Z/KPAE/SCEL
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:05 am

Quoting tigerotor77w (Reply 2):
Anyone have the flight number of the Hainan 787? (nonstop to PEK)

The flight number is CHH2723 but it was removed from Flightaware so it never departed. Maybe today.
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:27 am

I've been away for a while, where's United787 with his always updated and detailed list? 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:45 pm

As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here. For more specific information on the aircraft in production, I recommend going to http://nyc787.blogspot.com/

DELIVERED TO DATE: 88 Aircraft to 14 Airlines

DELIVERIES PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER
NH-22; JL-11; AI-8; QR-8; UA–7; ET-5; LO-5; BY-4; LA-3; BA-2; CZ-3; DY-2; HU-2; AM-1

SEPTEMBER DELIVERIES TO DATE
L/N 114 – G-ZBJC - 9/3/2013 - BA #3
L/N 107 - JA821A - 9/23/2013 - NH #23
L/N 81 - B-2723 – 9/27/2013 - HU #3
L/N 118 - CC-BBD - 9/27/2013 - LA #4
L/N 121 – G-ZBJD – 9/27/2013 - BA #4

AIRCRAFT THAT HAVE COMPLETED MAJOR ASSEMBLY & CHANGE INCORPORATION*
L/N 91 - VT-ANO – 9/xx/2013 - AI #9
L/N 109 - A7-BCF – 9/xx/2013 - QR #9
L/N 113 - CC-BBE - 9/xx/2013 - LA #5
L/N 100 - B-2736 – 9/xx/2013 – CZ #4
L/N 123 – VH-VKA – 10/xx/2013 – JQ #1
L/N 128 – V8-DLA - 10/xx/2013 – BI #1
L/N 122 – N964AM - 10/xx/2013 - AM #2 (ILFC)
L/N 104 - B-2737 – 10/xx/2013 – CZ #5
L/N 36 - B-2726 – 11/xx/2013 – CZ #6
L/N 85 - B–2730 - xx/xx/2013 - HU #4
L/N 43 - B-2727 – x/xx/2013 - CZ #7
L/N 127 – N965AM - 10/xx/2013 - AM #3 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight
L/N 124 - N27908 - 10/xx/2013 - UA #8 Awaiting first flight
L/N 125 – JA833J - 10/xx/2013 - JL #12 Awaiting first flight
L/N 130 – V8-DLB - x/xx/2013 – BI #2 Awaiting first flight
L/N 20 – JA821J – 10/xx/2013 - JL #13 Awaiting first flight
L/N 134 – VH-VKB – 10/xx/2013 – JQ #2 Awaiting first flight
L/N 32 - VT-ANG – x/xx/2013 - AI #10 Awaiting first flight
L/N 30 - VT-ANE – x/xx/2013 - AI #11 Awaiting first flight
L/N 79 - B-27?? – x/xx/2014 - HU #5 Awaiting first flight (Storage)
L/N 119 - B-2738 – x/xx/2014 – CZ #8 Awaiting first flight
L/N 131 - B-2731 – x/xx/2014 - HU #6 Awaiting first flight

*Not including the delivered aircraft and test aircraft (ZA001-006 & ZB001)
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:32 pm

Quoting United787 (Reply 6):
AIRCRAFT THAT HAVE COMPLETED MAJOR ASSEMBLY & CHANGE INCORPORATION*

It's pretty safe to say all of these will be October deliveries. No more September delivs I can see.
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:59 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 7):

Never say never...end of the quarter, I am sure Boeing will be pushing hard to get more out the door...they seem to always squeak out one or two in the final hours. SCL767 said he expects 113 to be delivered in the next couple of days. The other three are ready but have customer issues so they are probably out of Boeing's control...
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:36 pm

ZB002 rolled out and is now at the fuel dock.

http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/384717965007941632/photo/1
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:54 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 9):
ZB002 rolled out and is now at the fuel dock.

That seemed quicker than ZB001. Speaking of which; she is flying again:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE1

4 days in a row 32+ hours and 8 total flights.

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:01 pm

Quoting United787 (Reply 8):
SCL767 said he expects 113 to be delivered in the next couple of days.

LAN CC-BBE ZA539 (LN 113) will soon depart KCHS for another customer flight:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...9/history/20130930/1600Z/KCHS/KCHS

It should be noted that LAN requires two 787s in order to operate SCL-MAD/FRA daily; which begins tomorrow. Also, LAN requires two 787s in order to operate SCL-JFK daily; which begins next week. Plus one 787 on "stand-by" as a spare due to "operational issues."
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:34 pm

You must have to have a tough stomach to be a test pilot. If flightaware can be trusted: BOE1 has been doing circles over Eastern Washington for about 3 hours while bouncing in between 7,900 feet and 21,000 feet while alternating speeds between 108 kts (!) and 373 kts. In other words going up and down at alternate speeds while doing circles for 3+ hours. No thank you!

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE1

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:52 pm

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 12):
You must have to have a tough stomach to be a test pilot.

Well, at least the test pilot is in control, knows what to expect (and when), and has the option of a visual reference to the horizon. Just think about the crew in the back monitoring all of the testing instrumentation! Having an iron stomach might as well be an official job skill requirement.
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:31 pm

Quote:
LN30 (VT-ANE) has been pushed out of the EMC with engines attached. Next stop is the paint hangar I guess, she's a bit dirty.

LN30 went inside the paint hangar today.

http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/384744851020857344/photo/1

Quote:
Air India LN28 (VT-ANC) was moved from the paint hangar to the EMC tonight. Change incorporation should almost be finished.

LN28 is now back inside the EMC for final touches.
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:46 pm

Quoting WarpSpeed (Reply 13):
Well, at least the test pilot is in control, knows what to expect (and when), and has the option of a visual reference to the horizon. Just think about the crew in the back monitoring all of the testing instrumentation! Having an iron stomach might as well be an official job skill requirement.


  

Up front it's a non-event especially if you're the driver and not the watcher (unless you're the queasy type to begin with). Depending on the tests being performed the people in back take a beating, stomach wise, so you keep the temperature cool and if somebody thinks they might have an issue take a break and invite them up front to get their world right side up again.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:11 pm

Quoting WarpSpeed (Reply 13):
Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 15):

Over six hours of that stuff. Wow. Probably don't get IFE and a couple Jack Daniels' either.

Hope this government shutdown doesn't delay certification efforts.

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:16 pm

There were probably some contractual deliveries made today which we'll know about tomorrow when fly-a-ways occur.
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:56 pm

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 12):
If flightaware can be trusted: BOE1 has been doing circles over Eastern Washington for about 3 hours while bouncing in between 7,900 feet and 21,000 feet while alternating speeds between 108 kts (!) and 373 kts.

Sounds like a bit of envelope expansion   If 108 is a zero wind speed, then it sounds like they're looking for stall speeds. The altitude fluctiaions would certainly go along with that. However, given the crazy weather up here in the Pacific NW today, I wouldn't be suprised if strong winds aloft at the test altitudes were just giving the flight a crazy low groundspeed reading.
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Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:37 am

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:51 am

Another unpainted Hainan 787.


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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:52 am

Quoting KPDX (Reply 19):

Give the pilots a sobriety test. They're way off the flight plan. They can't trace for sh!t... http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/acetaminophen500mg/boe001.jpg
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:04 am

Looking at today's BOE1 flight track: Wow, wondering how you file that...I switched it over to sectional view, IFR low view, and IFR high view. No restricted area (I thought maybe they were flying inside of one). They're on the hook for visual separation, and down to 7900', they're mixing it up with GA traffic. I thought this was the type of thing they did off the coast over the Pacific...  
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:06 am

In the SE of that pattern there's a place where you wonder if they did a wingover into a diving turn. And a kink in the middle of the rat's nest that is _really_ tight. Maybe if you get down and look at the flight from the side it spells out words or draws a picture. It does look like someone had a lot of fun. Maybe the pilot likes this plane.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:18 am

Maybe they were dogfighting an A350 LOL
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:38 am

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 22):

Yeah like I was mentioning in reply #12 it's that change in altitude and speed that make these crazy circles/routes that much more ridiculous. For almost 6.5 hours. Crazy. It does appear that the pilots have some confidence in shaking this plane. So far.

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:45 am

Jon O tweeted that test personnel have not been on the aircraft so far. Tomorrow will be the first time.

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:57 am

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 24):

LOL   
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:19 am

Quoting pdxswa (Reply 20):
Another unpainted Hainan 787.

Hainan Airlines LN131, more info here.
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:20 am

Quoting tigerotor77w (Reply 2):
Anyone have the flight number of the Hainan 787? (nonstop to PEK)
Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 4):
The flight number is CHH2723 but it was removed from Flightaware so it never departed. Maybe today.

Here it is again:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...3/history/20131001/1200Z/KCHS/ZBAA

Should depart within 4 hours.
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:49 pm

Planespotters.net has published the construction numbers for the upcoming Jetstar Airways aircraft. They miss VH-VKC which is listed on 'All things 787', however, I believe they're correct in missing it... VH-VKC is currently assigned to a Glider on the CASA site, so surely, 'All things 787' is incorrect on this? Can someone clarify?
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:41 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 29):
Here it is again:

And removed/canceled again   
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:51 pm

Quoting pdxswa (Reply 20):
Another unpainted Hainan 787.

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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 28):

Hainan Airlines LN131, more info here.

Those photos are old, the aircraft has since been painted in Hainan color since they were taken.
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:55 pm

Correct, but I believe pdxswa wants to know the identity of the airframe because he's a photo screener on this website.

[Edited 2013-10-01 07:56:21]
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Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:06 pm

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:18 pm

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 34):
And it's back again:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...H2723

It's starting to sound like a faulty server in the data pipeline.. or a loose plug.
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:35 pm

A few very nice pictures of the Jetstar 787:


787 test flight by Jetstar Airways, on Flickr


787 test flight by Jetstar Airways, on Flickr


787 test flight by Jetstar Airways, on Flickr
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:16 pm

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 34):
And it's back again:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CHH2723

Down again.... 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:20 pm

Its a safe bet no one got sick on today's 787-9 flight. Must be they have the full crew on board now and not just two pilots with a wild ride in mind.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...1/history/20131001/1815Z/KBFI/KMWH
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B.../20131001/1815Z/KBFI/KMWH/tracklog

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:29 pm

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 34):
And it's back again:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...H2723

And it timed out again.
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:06 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 36):

It's amazing how good any plane seems to look if it has a base coat of something other than glaring white.
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:42 pm

Recent shot I managed to get of the Boeing 787-900 from the air, I did see number 2 while on the boeing tour in the hangars.


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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:59 pm

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 39):
And it timed out again.

About time. She is off!
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...3/history/20131001/1200Z/KCHS/ZBAA

Has there been a 14 hour 787 flight by a customer yet?

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:04 pm

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 42):
About time. She is off!

Has the fat lady sung on this one... I would be nervous until it left US airspace.

Any word on anymore deliveries yesterday? I am guessing that since we haven't seen anymore delivery flights, 5 is it for September  
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:15 pm

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 42):
Has there been a 14 hour 787 flight by a customer yet?

Yes I have seen it before but can't remember which customer it was.
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:44 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 44):
Yes I have seen it before but can't remember which customer it was.

Probably QR or ET?
 
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:10 am

Quoting United787 (Reply 43):

Has the fat lady sung on this one... I would be nervous until it left US airspace.

Currently in Canadian Airspace  

So what does October look like now?
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:32 am

As we start a new month. Next up...

Deliveries:
> VT-ANO (Air India #9) (@ Charleston)
> B-2736 (China Southern #4) (@ Charleston)
> A7-BCF (Qatar Airways #9) (@ Charleston)
> CC-BBE (LAN Airlines #5) (@ Charleston)
> VH-VKA (Qantas/Jetstar #1)
> V8-DLA (Royal Brunei #1)
> N964AM (Aeromexico #2/ILFC #4)
> B-2726 (China Southern #5)

First Flights:
> B-2738 (China Southern #8) (@ Charleston)
> N27908 (United Airlines #8) (@ Charleston)
> JA-83?J (Japan Airlines #12) (@ Charleston)
> JA-821J (Japan Airlines #13)
> N965AM (Aeromexico #3/ILFC #5)
> V8-DLB (Royal Brunei #2)
> VH-VKB (Qantas/Jetstar #2)
> B-2731 (Hainan Airlines #5)

FAL Rollout:
> EI-LNC (Norwegian #3 - #1 Self Owned)
> JA-824A (All Nippon Aiways #24) (@ Charleston)
> N789ZB (787-9 Test Aircraft #3)

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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:12 am

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 47):

So none were delivered at the end of September?
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RE: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21

Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:18 am

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 48):
So none were delivered at the end of September?

There were 3, 1 each for ANA, LAN and BA. But im sure there were some contractual deliveries made towards the end.
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