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AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:43 pm

Does anybody have an idea what it could be? Maybe new service to Asia? I would like to see AA fly to SYD with its own metal but I don't think it will be from DFW. Here is a link.

http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2...hing-about-american-airlines.html/
 
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:48 pm

Quoting user444555 (Thread starter):
Does anybody have an idea what it could be? Maybe new service to Asia? I would like to see AA fly to SYD with its own metal but I don't think it will be from DFW. Here is a link.

I think it's probably PEK or PVG... Would a 773 do DFW-HKG?

Slim chance for something in Africa maybe?
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:52 pm

My money is HKG with CX already going up on their service to ORD and all the feed AA gives them this seems right
 
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:53 pm

Wasn't Tom Horton recently in China meeting with officials?
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:02 pm

I think it is going to be DFW-HKG. That is probably the reason why CX left out DFW in it's most recent round of expansion.
 
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:06 pm

American has been expected to announce it's long-haul expansion for summer 2014 any day now. I suspect this might be it.
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:07 pm

How about something to do with the WA going away next year, get a jump on things.
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:09 pm

 
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:10 pm

Sounds yummy, but lets not get too excited just yet.

Possibilities:

DFW-HKG: Its possible, but I have my doubts about a 77W being viable. I have always thought it would be a 787 route if it comes.

DFW-DOH: It would be uncommon for AA to go that far outside the box, but if they are getting cozy its possible. I think it would be easier to fill because of the massive DFW-India market. But I dont think this is the one.

or something much smaller. Perhaps a European destination? But I dont see DFW being ripe for any more European destinations.

I also cant really see DFW-PEK/PVG. Most of the Chinese market in Texas lies in Houston and they have a flight already.

Or perhaps its being blown out of proportion. Only time will tell.

When is the announcement?
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:12 pm

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 8):
When is the announcement?

The event is supposed to start at 11:30am Central Time.
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:15 pm

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 8):
When is the announcement?

11:30am CDT
 
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:22 pm

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 5):

American has been expected to announce it's long-haul expansion for summer 2014 any day now. I suspect this might be it.

their S14 expansions today announced, will it be only DFW or will it cover their other hubs like ORD and MIA? it would be nice to see some expansion on those, especially ORD that they've neglected internationally, DFW has been getting a lot of love from AA, any one know how the loads on the ICN flights are? I don't think SYD would be it, I think HKG is the most likely with a codeshare with CX (since this is an AA announcement, I'd expect it to be on AA metal not AA announcing for CX.) I don't see AA stepping into DOH, if anything QR.
 
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:25 pm

It is DFWHKG and DFWPVG.
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:27 pm

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 12):
It is DFWHKG and DFWPVG.

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Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:27 pm

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 12):
It is DFWHKG and DFWPVG.

Not surprised, sad to see no growth from their other hubs, that would be nice.
 
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:28 pm

Official - DFWHKG and DFWPVG. Wow!

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/american-airlines-responds-customer-demand-162500036.html

The 77W seems like a very big plane for the DFW-HKG route, but then again, perhaps it will work with all the connectivity on both ends. I struggle with DFW-PVG with a 3-class 772, although a 2-class 772 and eventually a 787 makes more sense.

[Edited 2013-10-16 09:31:24]
 
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:30 pm

What wasn't mentioned is JFKHND is ending; and no indication JFKNRT is resuming.
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:30 pm

pulled quote from dallasnews.com blog

UPDATE, 11:20 a.m.: The purpose of the press conference is to announce the launch of service from Dallas/Fort Worth to Shanghai and Hong Kong, we hear.
 
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:34 pm

Excellent news!

Hopefully there will be expansion from other hubs as well.
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:36 pm

Also included in the PR:

In addition to welcoming the 777-300ER to Asia with the launch of service to Hong Kong, American will take delivery of and deploy additional 777-300ER aircraft to key international markets in 2014, including routes from American's hub in Miami for the first time. American will begin operating the 777-300ER on one of its two daily flights from Miami to London Heathrow (LHR) in January, and one of its four daily flights from Miami to Sao Paulo (GRU) in November 2014. American will also operate an additional 777-300ER between New York JFK and London Heathrow in March. By the end of 2014, American will have 16 of the 20 777-300ER aircraft it has on order deployed throughout its network.

With the introduction of an additional 777-300ER between JFK and London Heathrow, customers will have the opportunity to travel in fully lie-flat First Class or Business Class seats on all 12 frequencies American operates together with British Airways between the two airports, providing more fully lie-flat seats than any other airline partnership in the market.


So 77W on MIA-LHR, as was already known, plus MIA-GRU, as was expected. On JFK-LHR, it says by next year all AA/BA flights will have lie-flat J once it introduces "an additional" 77W flight. As I think AA has 4 JFK-LHR flights, does that mean (as it seems to imply) all AA flights will be 77W. Does that mean AA is cutting the morning JFK-LHR on the 772, or that by next year the first 772s will have the new lie-flat J?
 
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:37 pm

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 18):
Excellent news!

Hopefully there will be expansion from other hubs as well.

I'd expect a new European route or two from Chicago and/or New York.

Miami gets it's expansion in the winter - and indeed this winter added POA, CWB, MXP and CZM.

Los Angeles will continue to see impressive domestic expansion, but probably focus on that for now. I don't think AA would launch a third new Asian route in S14.
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:40 pm

Fort Worth mayor keeps calling PVG "Shangapore".
 
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:41 pm

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 20):
I'd expect a new European route or two from Chicago and/or New York.

maybe these two hubs are all full, it would be nice to see a lot more expansion but it seems like they're pretty full.
 
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:42 pm

Did the mayor of Fort Worth just say that DFW will have nonstop flights to Hong Kong and "Shangapore"?

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 20):

Los Angeles will continue to see impressive domestic expansion, but probably focus on that for now. I don't think AA would launch a third new Asian route in S14.

I wanted to see LAX-ICN, but oh well. I'll settle with DFW-ICN.

KE is a tough competitor, but over the past few years we've seen a lot of other airlines hold their own against KE.
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:44 pm

Quoting commavia (Reply 15):
The 77W seems like a very big plane for the DFW-HKG route, but then again, perhaps it will work with all the connectivity on both ends.

The press release states that "[b]oth routes will be operated as part of American's joint business agreement with fellow oneworld® alliance member Japan Airlines."

Does this suggest that there is traffic on both airlines that would be more efficiently routed by bypassing Tokyo?
 
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:45 pm

Needless to say, this is going to dramatically improve AA's standing in PVG. As many of us predicted several years ago - AA will by next year be flying to the five most important business markets in North Asia - TYO, SEL, PEK, SHA, and HKG. That is great, great news for AA (and DFW) and, just as was expected, AA is now considerably closing the gap between itself and Delta when it comes to nonstop U.S.-Asia.

Quoting commavia (Reply 19):
Does that mean AA is cutting the morning JFK-LHR on the 772, or that by next year the first 772s will have the new lie-flat J?

Looks like answer was provided on another forum from an internal memo - AA will, indeed, be dropping one JFK-LHR flight in favor of a BA flight, so AA will be down to 3x 77W on JFK-LHR. Supposedly temporary until 772s are reconfigured.
 
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:56 pm

Does anyone have any information on the schedule for the flights? I would guess an early AM departure from DFW and a late afternoon/early evening arrival back at DFW?
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:58 pm

Finally AA gets to Hong Kong, on a plane worthy of "Asia's World City", the 777-300ER. This will bring AA nonstop to four cities in Asia from DFW. Shanghai is a surprise, being AA's third flight that city from LAX and ORD as well.
 
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:59 pm

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 26):
Does anyone have any information on the schedule for the flights? I would guess an early AM departure from DFW and a late afternoon/early evening arrival back at DFW?

If I had to guess, they will follow the patterns of the current NRT/ICN-DFW flights. That way all Latin America connections are available.
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:12 pm

It is rather bittersweet though, since AA is pulling out of JFK-HND. Hopefully they'll restore JFK-NRT.
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:24 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 27):
Finally AA gets to Hong Kong, on a plane worthy of "Asia's World City", the 777-300ER.

I don't think they would have started the route with anything other than a 777-300ER. It would be a really poor choice, in my opinion, to start that route with the relatively sub-par 772 J-class. Plus they can stuff more people in Y on the bigger (and 10-across) 77W.
 
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:25 pm

Quoting sw733 (Reply 30):
I don't think they would have started the route with anything other than a 777-300ER. It would be a really poor choice, in my opinion, to start that route with the relatively sub-par 772 J-class. Plus they can stuff more people in Y on the bigger (and 10-across) 77W.

Can the 772 even fly that far with a decent payload?
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:38 pm

Glad to see AA finally expanding to Asia. Launching a brand new route with near-VLA like 77W maybe a bit on a risky but hopefully the connections alone can sufficiently supplement the ~40 O&D PDEW.

Hopefully the low density 772 is not going to plague DFW-PVG the way it affected some of the other routes.

Funny that UA uses SFO for Asian hub (ORD to much smaller degree), DL uses both SEA and DTW, but AA seems to make DFW their preferred one over LAX/ORD with NRT/PVG/ICN/HKG. DFW-PEK now sounds like a sure thing within the next 24 months.

With the HND cancellation, Star controls a good chunk of the NYC-TYO market all of a sudden :

UA 77E
NH 77W
NH 77W/77E
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JL 77W

I wonder if HND slot is returned to the DoT pool for re-allocation ?
 
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:52 pm

Quoting a380787 (Reply 32):
Hopefully the low density 772 is not going to plague DFW-PVG the way it affected some of the other routes.

Conversion to two-class, high density configuration will be underway by then, with the first planes likely flying already.
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:10 pm

Well it is about time AA did something like this. I wouldn't mind trying them in Business or First to HKG from DFW, but no way I'm going to sit in 10 abreast in coach.   

Quoting deltaffindfw (Reply 21):

Fort Worth mayor keeps calling PVG "Shangapore".

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Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:11 pm

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 28):
If I had to guess, they will follow the patterns of the current NRT/ICN-DFW flights. That way all Latin America connections are available.

Why would anyone want to connect via DFW given that -

1) Going via DXB (or for that matter AUH) is shorter? For example; HKG to GRU is 1700nm shorter (1700nm is something like a 4 hour ATL-LAX flight)

2 segment path: 13234 mi
HKG (22°18'32"N 113°54'53"E) DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'17"W) 29.0° (NE) 8123 mi
DFW (32°53'49"N 97°02'17"W) GRU (23°25'55"S 46°28'10"W) 132.4° (SE) 5111 mi
2 segment path: 11276 mi
HKG (22°18'32"N 113°54'53"E) DXB (25°15'10"N 55°21'52"E) 285.6° (W) 3684 mi
DXB (25°15'10"N 55°21'52"E) GRU (23°25'55"S 46°28'10"W) 252.9° (W) 7592 mi

2) You will have to clear immigrations and Customs at DFW with the added pain that you will need a transit visa if you don't have a passport that belongs to a visa waiver country.

So, unless the passenger is stopping over at Dallas to conduct business before going on the Latin America/HKG depending on the direction of travel i don't think there is much connecting traffic on any of these flights over DFW as compared to DXB/AUH.
I think onward connections at DFW are mostly to other US cities.

[Edited 2013-10-16 11:15:29]
 
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:11 pm

Quoting a380787 (Reply 32):

Glad to see AA finally expanding to Asia. Launching a brand new route with near-VLA like 77W maybe a bit on a risky but hopefully the connections alone can sufficiently supplement the ~40 O&D PDEW.

I don't think the 77W was as much as a "go big or go home" move, rather it is a logical choice for two reasons.

1) It's the new, shiny toy for AA with all the amenities.

2) They don't really have any birds with the legs to fly such a route beyond the 77W, and if they do, it isn't any smaller then the 77W. Certainly, being a brand spanking new two holer, it is as efficient as they get for the route.

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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:21 pm

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 29):
It is rather bittersweet though, since AA is pulling out of JFK-HND. Hopefully they'll restore JFK-NRT.

This is pretty big news actually. Will AA resume JFK-NRT? Perhaps JAL with a second daily (787?) flight, instead?
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:31 pm

Quoting 747megatop (Reply 35):
Why would anyone want to connect via DFW given that -

Outside of GRU/GIG, AA still has some of the better/best one stop options
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:36 pm

Quoting 747megatop (Reply 35):
Why would anyone want to connect via DFW given that -

Sure, if you're going to GRU, but you can connect with one stop to LIM, BOG, MEX, SCL, EZE, etc with one stop via DFW. All of those would require 2 stops if using a ME3 carrier. I believe the northern cities of South America would also be a longer routing via DXB/GRU instead of DFW.
 
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:05 pm

Its interesting that there is no mention of Cathay Pacific in the press release or specific connecting opportunities in Hong Kong.
 
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:13 pm

Congrats to AA!

AA and CX code-shared between HKG and other Asian cities, so I'm pretty sure AA can fill the 77W. But I'll have to say that I'd still prefer flying CX out of ORD then flying AA out of DFW from where I am in the southeast in Y or premium economy.
 
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:14 pm

Some more analysis here:

http://upgrd.com/aerospace/breaking-...ounces-dfw-hong-kong-shanghai.html

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 16):
What wasn't mentioned is JFKHND is ending; and no indication JFKNRT is resuming.

Good. There's really no reason to keep hacking at HND. Along with JL, AA will be safe in protecting OneWorld market share from NYC to TYO flying to NRT instead.

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 23):
I wanted to see LAX-ICN, but oh well. I'll settle with DFW-ICN.

Well, DFW-ICN is old news, but LAX-ICN is a bloodbath. You have TG, OZ and KE on these routes. The latter two benefit from much lower cost structure, alongside entrenched presences in the LA-Korea market.

Quoting LDVAviation (Reply 24):
Does this suggest that there is traffic on both airlines that would be more efficiently routed by bypassing Tokyo?

Yes. In a subtle twist of events, AA has probably taken a page out of Delta's book with Seattle. Concentrating US-Asia routes to be overly Japan-centric is no longer a fool proof plan. Instead, it's a matter of isolating which TPAC gateway provides the most likelihood of success and then investing in the infrastructure, product and network to develop from there.

For UA, it's never been necessary to second guess the power of SFO. Delta took note of this, and after fumbling a few times with a few Asian failures from PDX, then ATL and finally DTW (post-merger), the carrier has found its 'niche' in SEA.

Now, AA has finally woken up and realized its better to act now rather than later, and continue to watch the competition eat up more opportunities. Waiting for its merger with US Airways to clear the courtroom (which may go South anyways) wasn't going to help expedite matters.

DFW will be American's largest gateway to Asia when these two routes come online. However, I'm very curious to see how these, particularly the DFW-PVG flight, will affect ORD-PVG, LAX-PVG, and ORD-PEK.

Quoting commavia (Reply 25):
Needless to say, this is going to dramatically improve AA's standing in PVG. As many of us predicted several years ago - AA will by next year be flying to the five most important business markets in North Asia - TYO, SEL, PEK, SHA, and HKG. That is great, great news for AA (and DFW) and, just as was expected, AA is now considerably closing the gap between itself and Delta when it comes to nonstop U.S.-Asia.

It's a HUGE day. I think this is probably American's biggest route announcement in the last decade, IMO.

Quoting 747megatop (Reply 35):
Why would anyone want to connect via DFW given that -

OH, I was waiting for the haters to come through. It only took 35 posts. Can people start to see the proof is in the pudding, for once?!

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 38):
Outside of GRU/GIG, AA still has some of the better/best one stop options

Well, well, well! Nice to hear something pro-DFW come from your end!   
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:32 pm

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 42):
OH, I was waiting for the haters to come through. It only took 35 posts. Can people start to see the proof is in the pudding, for once?!

My my...no hating    ; just some head scratching and some logical questioning.
 
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:35 pm

Quoting 747megatop (Reply 35):
2) You will have to clear immigrations and Customs at DFW with the added pain that you will need a transit visa if you don't have a passport that belongs to a visa waiver country.

Do you really know this stuff? Have you ever even done it? International-to-international connections in the USA do not have to clear customs. You clear immigration and never have to see your bags.

Quoting 747megatop (Reply 35):
i don't think there is much connecting traffic on any of these flights over DFW as compared to DXB/AUH.

There are multiple reasons why someone would not want to connect in DXB or AUH. The most obvious one is there might be a cheaper alternative.

Let me offer another reason that may matter to half of the world: Someone might object to dealing with companies from countries that treat women as inferior beings when other alternatives are available.
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Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:40 pm

Quoting a380787 (Reply 32):
Hopefully the low density 772 is not going to plague DFW-PVG the way it affected some of the other routes.

The 772 fleet is losing F and going to the same 10 abreast Y configuration that the 77W has.
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:43 pm

So this article saying CLT could be an Asian gateway may not be correct? I MEAN IT'S CLT! It can support any flight it wants!!!

http://www.thestreet.com/story/12062...rican-airlines-future-in-asia.html  
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:44 pm

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 42):
Well, well, well! Nice to hear something pro-DFW come from your end!

I'm always pro DFW  
Quoting flyguy1 (Reply 37):
Will AA resume JFK-NRT? Perhaps JAL with a second daily (787?) flight, instead?

I've said it before and I'll say it again, something is not working in the JL/AA JV if JFKNRT and ORDNRT do not work on AA.

Quoting LDVAviation (Reply 24):
Does this suggest that there is traffic on both airlines that would be more efficiently routed by bypassing Tokyo?

I'm wondering in the long run one of the two daily NRT either goes away or becomes something else, like PEK. At the same time I think AA can easily maintain two daily NRT plus multiple beyonds with no trouble.
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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:06 pm

Quoting incitatus (Reply 44):
Do you really know this stuff? Have you ever even done it? International-to-international connections in the USA do not have to clear customs. You clear immigration and never have to see your bags.

As far as I know you do have to clear customs.
I haven't done Int'l to Int'l in over a year through the US, but certianly last April POS-MIA-LHR and July POS-MIA-YYZ I had to clear both immigration and customs.

I don't see it as a huge hassel- just bag drop and proceed to nearest secuity checkpoint. Lots of people do it- it seems that only the elite travellers of A.net have a serious problem with it, otherwise MIA would not be the mecca of Latin American and Caribbean connections that it is today despite COPA in Panama and the advent of many more P2P flights on local and regional carriers.

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RE: AA And DFW Area Mayors To Make Big Announcement

Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:06 pm

Wow, exciting news. DFW-HKG will be the sixth longest flight in the world, and four of the ten longest routes in the world will be from DFW.

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