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Superjet Works Well At Interjet

Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:55 pm

There is a thread started for this but it was locked, why I don't know. Anyway, finally some good new for Sukhoi and Alenia, 99% reliability is not to shabby for new aircraft:

http://airinsight.com/2013/10/29/sup...source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

“Passengers are very happy with the aircraft. The SSJ100 is confirming its superior aerodynamics and outstanding performance. We are very proud of the new SSJ100: it is currently the only regional aircraft with a 5 abreast configuration enabling mainline comfort with reduced operating costs and the flexibility of a regional jet to be operated in small airports; the SSJ100 is a key choice for Interjet’s development plan focused on serving Mexico’s domestic mid-density routes as well as some short-haul international ones” says Jose Luis Garza, CEO Interjet.
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Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:30 pm

It's good to see that it's working well for them. That program needs a break like this.
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Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:38 pm

The SSJ is an interesting aircraft. The fuel burn penalties for not being near your optimum altitude is horrendous! In standard config, full pax, 200NM alternate & 30mins hold, you still have about 4 tons to spare to your MLW... so it's a useful cargo hauler too. The downside is that the approach speed at MLW is about 147 knots (Vref 142 giving Vapp of 147 at no wind), this is why one needs 1600m as minimum runway to dispatch the plane into...

I talked to some of the crew at Sky Aviation here, their SSJ crew seem to love it,,,
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Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:08 pm

Good news for the program, which IMO really needs to deliver more aircraft to airlines out there, to have more exposure to more customers and regions. Having a broad customer and aircraft base helps in discovering and troubleshooting issues - and the current 20ish aircraft is not exactly a large statistical base.

Sukhoi has issued a press release on the good reliability at Interjet as well:
http://www.superjetinternational.com...100-confirm-successful-operations/

After 4 weeks of operation, 99.03% dispatch reliability and 9.74hrs average daily utilization. 600 flight hrs and 580 cycles accumulated. Max daily utilization was 11hrs.
 
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Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:49 pm

You can follow it here

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AmEt8JO6g23FdGZXZlprb3ZpNUt6TFRHOUtVY3Bzcnc&output=html

Very nice utilization rate
Engines seems OK also

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Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:54 pm

Interesting.

If Sukhoi can maintain a good experience for one first-world carrier (and I think doing so in the western hemisphere is a psychological benefit), perhaps hey can break further into the market.

Competition, she's a good thing!
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Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:15 pm

I had booked a MEX-ZAC flight just to make a Trip report, but I have been super busy at work to take a day off, I hope to make one in less than 3 weeks!..

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Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:36 pm

Good for 4O! I can't wait to fly on one! Any chances they will start any new routes out of SNA with it?
 
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Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:38 pm

Quoting r2rho (Reply 3):
After 4 weeks of operation, 99.03% dispatch reliability and 9.74hrs average daily utilization. 600 flight hrs and 580 cycles accumulated. Max daily utilization was 11hrs.

   *Far* better than I expected. Kudos to Interjet and Sukhoi.

This is the news the program needed. Now to sell enough to have economy of scale...

Quoting sccutler (Reply 5):
Competition, she's a good thing!

   Soon add the MRJ...

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Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:55 pm

In the meanwhile the third SSJ for Interjet (XA-JLV) took off from Venice this afternoon and is going to arrive in Mexico on November 7.
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Tue Nov 05, 2013 4:08 pm

Quoting AM777LR (Reply 7):

Good for 4O! I can't wait to fly on one! Any chances they will start any new routes out of SNA with it?

SNA seems to me, to be to far for the SSJ100 even from GDL. 4O best International route for this airplane seems to be MEX-SAT on a double daily basis. The A320 has to much capacity and with FL and 5D on the route flying 73G and E190s or E145s.
 
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Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:01 pm

Great news for the SSJ program, I really hope to see one in Italy in the future.... Fingers crossed!
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Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:52 pm

Quoting skyone (Reply 10):

I don't see what you're talking, from what I can see on the Sukhoi website, it's should have the legs to make it to the LA area from MEX and GDL. What about new routes to SNA? Like SDJ-SNA? They could offer AirTran some competition. http://www.scac.ru/en/aircraft/performance/2010/
 
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Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:56 pm

Quoting r2rho (Reply 3):
After 4 weeks of operation, 99.03% dispatch reliability and 9.74hrs average daily utilization. 600 flight hrs and 580 cycles accumulated. Max daily utilization was 11hrs.

It's probably outdoing the 787 on dispatch reliability at this point  
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Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:02 pm

Quoting Paolo92 (Reply 9):
In the meanwhile the third SSJ for Interjet (XA-JLV) took off from Venice this afternoon and is going to arrive in Mexico on November 7.

Anyone know the ferry routes that they are using?
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Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:12 pm

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 14):
Anyone know the ferry routes that they are using?

Here it is going through BGR...

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AIJ1502
 
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Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:45 pm

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 14):
Quoting Paolo92 (Reply 9):In the meanwhile the third SSJ for Interjet (XA-JLV) took off from Venice this afternoon and is going to arrive in Mexico on November 7.
Anyone know the ferry routes that they are using?

Skyliner aviation posted the following information about the ferry flight:


  Sukhoi RRJ 95B 95028
  XA-JLV InterJet
  delivery 05-07nov13 VCE-KEF-YYR-BGR-TLC
  ex I-PDVY


Here is the path:


 
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Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:47 pm

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 13):

LOL  
 
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:28 am

Here is a more detailed map:

http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=vce-kef-yyr-bgr-tlc&MS=wls&MR=600&MX=576x288+&PM=*


The longest segment is BGR-TLC:

VCE (45°30'19"N 12°21'07"E) KEF (63°59'06"N 22°36'20"W) 326.0° (NW) 1852 mi
KEF (63°59'06"N 22°36'20"W) YYR (53°19'09"N 60°25'33"W) 258.9° (W)  1519 mi
YYR (53°19'09"N 60°25'33"W) BGR (44°48'27"N 68°49'41"W) 216.2° (SW)  700 mi
BGR (44°48'27"N 68°49'41"W) TLC (19°20'13"N 99°33'58"W) 235.2° (SW) 2488 mi


In the first delivery, the SSJ made 2 stops between BGR and TLC; as of second delivery Sukhoi realized the aircraft can make it nonstop.

[Edited 2013-11-05 16:53:59]
 
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:57 am

Quoting AM777LR (Reply 12):
What about new routes to SNA?
Quoting mandala499 (Reply 2):
The downside is that the approach speed at MLW is about 147 knots (Vref 142 giving Vapp of 147 at no wind), this is why one needs 1600m as minimum runway to dispatch the plane into...

Don't know how this all shakes out, but perhaps performance out of SNA would provide hurdles at high weights?
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:03 am

Quoting doug_Or (Reply 19):
Don't know how this all shakes out, but perhaps performance out of SNA would provide hurdles at high weights?

Well, all aircraft have troubles at SNA at high weights due to the short runway. But, any routes that the SSJ operates out of SNA (if they do) would be short hops to maybe TIJ, or HMO.
 
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:09 am

Only in Spanish, here one of the first trip reports of Interjet's SSJ100:

http://flyapm.com/foro/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=209

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Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:09 am

Quoting ghost77 (Reply 21):

Looks very nice inside! Can't wait to fly on it! As the passangers said "Qué bonito Avión"
 
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:56 am

Quoting ghost77 (Reply 21):
Only in Spanish, here one of the first trip reports of Interjet's SSJ100:

http://flyapm.com/foro/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=209

Thanks, what was obvious was how wide and comfortable the cabin was, the aisle was wide enough for him to pass the service cart when going to the wc, it is 3.27m wide and the Cseries is 3.28m. They will establish a new comfort level for a 5 abreast short hauler.

The major difference between the SSJ and the Cseries will be fuel burn as the engines burn 15% more fuel, they have the spec of a CFM5-7B.
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:17 am

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 8):
Soon add the MRJ...

I can't wait   

Quoting Fyano773 (Reply 18):
Here is a more detailed map:

What a flight....
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:20 am

Quoting ghost77 (Reply 21):

The link does not work me.
 
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:09 am

Quoting ferpe (Reply 23):

SSJ is almost 1 t lighter (BOW) than E190 (comparing Yakutia 93PAX layout with Virgin australia 104 PAS layout)
And looks like fuel burn is close to CRJ1000
Not that bad I think
Do you know how Sam146 compare vs last CF34-10 and maybe PW1500G ?
 
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:27 pm

Quoting Aviaponcho (Reply 26):
Do you know how Sam146 compare vs last CF34-10 and maybe PW1500G ?

The Sam146 is rather similar to CF34-10, both should be at TSFC 0.65 installed (Snecma gives the Sam146 as 0.63 uninstalled and GE the CF at 0.64), the PW1500G is in another class at around 0.55-56 installed. The Sam146 has a BPR of 4.4 and the CF34-10 5 but the PW1500 is norht of 10 at about 12-13, so very different engines and the GTF is about 15% better.
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:43 pm

Sorry, I should have asked vs PW1200G that is in the same league...

My guess is that the lightweight of the SSJ can do wonders on shorts hop even with rather low bypass ratio engines
 
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:51 pm

Does the SSJ come with only one type of engine or are there multiple engines offered?
 
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:47 pm

Quoting Aviaponcho (Reply 28):
Sorry, I should have asked vs PW1200G that is in the same league...

It looses bypass ratio to 9 as the fan i cropped, Wiki says it will loose 3% due to this, I would believe it, so the MRJ version would be at about about 0.58 where you also find bigger engines like T700, CF6-80E, PW 4168 etc.

Quoting blrsea (Reply 29):
Does the SSJ come with only one type of engine or are there multiple engines offered?

Only the Sam146 which is a joint development and production between Snecma (the second leg of CFM) and Russian company NPO Saturn, it is kind of a scaled down simplified CFM56, made for good high cycle durability and low maintenance costs, here a brochure:

http://www.snecma.com/IMG/files/fiche_sam146_ang_modulvoir_file_fr.pdf
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:51 pm

According to the trip report mentioned in Reply 21, the aft lavatory is "only ladies". I didn't know this "discrimination" existed on commercial planes. Another not so positive aspect is, according to the trip report, that windows are rather low, "à la CRJ-200", which is really unconfortable.
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:44 pm

Third SSJ (XA-JLV) has arrived:

  


The aircraft arrived at noon, local time.

[Edited 2013-11-06 13:11:06]
 
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:01 pm

Quoting spantax (Reply 31):
I didn't know this "discrimination" existed on commercial planes.

Ah, the Political Correctness police.

It´s on all aircraft of Interjet´s. It´s a very successful policy too. Akin to having women only cars on the subway. Is it discrimintaion? I don´t know. I´ve been to thousands of establishments where there are toilets for men and toilets for women. It sure works for 4O.

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Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:31 am

Quoting ferpe (Reply 30):
Quoting Aviaponcho (Reply 28):Sorry, I should have asked vs PW1200G that is in the same league...
It looses bypass ratio to 9 as the fan i cropped, Wiki says it will loose 3% due to this, I would believe it, so the MRJ version would be at about about 0.58 where you also find bigger engines like T700, CF6-80E, PW 4168 etc.

Quoting blrsea (Reply 29):Does the SSJ come with only one type of engine or are there multiple engines offered?
Only the Sam146 which is a joint development and production between Snecma (the second leg of CFM) and Russian company NPO Saturn, it is kind of a scaled down simplified CFM56, made for good high cycle durability and low maintenance costs, here a brochure:

http://www.snecma.com/IMG/files/fich...r.pdf

But the Superjet was designed to fit larger diameter engines as well. So we may see a GTF Superjet as well. And don't forget, since they qill not build the shorter version, we will see the (130 pax?) strech hopefully soon! And from my IL9 ride this year I could learn how great Russian designes can be!!!

It seems that the SSJ is also miles ahead of the An-148/158, even thoug it is a nice ride as well. I've been on those several times, and they are WAY more comfortable than the older 735s and the Embraers, but from the economical side they are not so appealing...

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Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:19 am

Quoting Ty134A (Reply 34):
It seems that the SSJ is also miles ahead of the An-148/158, even thoug it is a nice ride as well. I've been on those several times, and they are WAY more comfortable than the older 735s and the Embraers, but from the economical side they are not so appealing...

I don't think the AN-148 is that far behind on at least the fuel burn side, the deficit is then mostly on the aero side I guess as the Progress powerplant is in the same class as Sam146 and CRF34-10, TSFC on the test bench 0.63. The TBO might be another thing though   .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_D-436
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:33 am

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D436 in not certified by western standards (Fan blade out is a problem I think)
 
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:50 pm

Quoting Ty134A (Reply 34):
So we may see a GTF Superjet as well

Not until the current engine contract expires, which is at least 11 years away (unless the French were silly signing the contract...).

The main issue is the SAM146 missed promised fuel burn. The engine direly needs a PIP. But that won't happen until a few hundred aircraft are sold. Chicken and the egg...

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Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:08 pm

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 13):
It's probably outdoing the 787 on dispatch reliability at this point

lol good one!

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Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:26 pm

Superb! Such a great looking aircraft and certainly very nice inside. Are there any potential new orders that could arise from the belated shot in the arm for the Superjet program that this improved reliability might represent?
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:13 pm

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 37):
The main issue is the SAM146 missed promised fuel burn.

Do you know by how much? I wonder why the Sam146 was designed with such a low bypass ratio.
 
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Quoting TheRedBaron (Reply 38):
happy decade of posting Compadre!!!

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Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:12 pm

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 37):
Not until the current engine contract expires, which is at least 11 years away (unless the French were silly signing the contract...).

The SSJ130 is planned to have the GTF...
The SAM146 contract only covers SSJ100 (which includes the 100-95 in production today).

The bad news is that it seems the SSJ130 may be delayed...
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:24 pm

I truly hope this a real shot in the arm of Superjet and that it also sorts some of the who does what issues they have been having. Seems the italian designed interior is getting high marks, also the support side seems to have geared up to the right level. Let it just continue like this and we will gradually have another player in the world market.

The Russians have a much better situation then the Chinense when it comes to know how and experience, they just needs to get them selves organised and going in the right direction. This might show the way.
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:27 pm

Quoting tommytoyz (Reply 40):
Do you know by how much? I wonder why the Sam146 was designed with such a low bypass ratio.

Per my sources 4%. Low bypass ratios are more optimal on shorter missions. It was a compromise designed to improve the SSJ's resale values later in life.

Quoting mandala499 (Reply 42):
The SSJ130 is planned to have the GTF...

Source? I have Pratt contacts and *none* believe that to be the case. The SSJ will live and die off the SAM146 and growth of that engine. They will have right of first refusal.


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Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:34 pm


News release about third delivery. Sukhoi highlights the superior performance and reliability of the 2 SSJ already in service:


Third Sukhoi Superjet 100 delivered to Interjet

November 6, 2013

On November 6, 2013 the third Sukhoi Superjet 100 for the Mexican airline Interjet landed in Toluca (Mexico) to join the other two SSJ100 already in service with the airline. The aircraft was rolled out from SuperJet International’s hangar in Venice (Italy) upon completion of customization and technical acceptance procedure on November 5, 2013. On the same day, the SSJ100, registered XA-JLV, took off from Venice Marco Polo airport for the ferry flight to Toluca (Mexico).

The airplane MSN 95028, flown by Interjet crew, during its ferry flight made technical stops in Keflyavik (Iceland) and Bangor (Maine, USA), then flew directly to Toluca (Mexico), thus confirming its outstanding performance on longer range routes.

“I am really proud because another new step has been done – states Nazario Cauceglia, Chief Executive Officer of SuperJet International – Another SSJ100 is now flying in the Americas and it is determined to become a competitive player in the regional segment. With more than two years in operations, the SSJ100 is proving to merge into a single product the comfort of a narrow-body with the reduced costs and flexibility of a regional jet”.

The first two SSJ100 currently in service with Interjet are confirming an outstanding performance with over 99% dispatch reliability and an average daily utilization of 9 flight hours.

The fourth aircraft to be delivered to Interjet (MSN 95036) is currently under completion at SuperJet International’s plant in Italy.

The SSJ100 is a state-of-the-art regional jet developed and built by Sukhoi Civil Aircraft Company (SCAC), in partnership with Alenia Aermacchi. It incorporates the most modern Western technology and systems together with high standards of comfort available in the 100-seats segment. Interjet ordered 20 SSJ100 plus 10 options in the 93-seats (34’ pitch) configuration. The exclusive and comfortable interior are designed by Italian Company Pininfarina.


Source: http://www.superjetinternational.com/mediacenter/3135/




According to the article, the 4th SSJ is underway, hope that plane joins 4O fleet before year end...

[Edited 2013-11-07 13:07:19]
 
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RE: Superjet Works Well At Interjet

Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:08 am

Time for SkyWest to start talking with Superjet?
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Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:28 am

Are you serious ?
Indeed SSJ seems to become a credible alternative.
It might be too big for US feeders... but should do Ok for Europe
 
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Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:30 am

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 44):
Source? I have Pratt contacts and *none* believe that to be the case.

Source was UAC... which is in a mess of it's own...   

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 37):
The main issue is the SAM146 missed promised fuel burn. The engine direly needs a PIP. But that won't happen until a few hundred aircraft are sold. Chicken and the egg...

Per my sources, they met their "minimum" promised burn... but am sure many would have preferred it to go better than that even if it missed the more optimistic promised burn. But nonetheless, it needs a PIP!

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 44):
Per my sources 4%. Low bypass ratios are more optimal on shorter missions. It was a compromise designed to improve the SSJ's resale values later in life.

There's a problem to this "more optimal on shorter missions" thing... The darned jet burns 1.8 - 2 tons an hour cruise at FL280 at 41Tons GW (MLW)... if you wanna fly it under RVSM continuously, it's a damn expensive game to play. But yes, the fuel burn on longer legs is err... yeah, no matter how much spin you put on it.. the numbers speak for itself...

Unfortunately, I don't have E190 / CRJ900 / 1000 to compare this aircraft with...  
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RE: Superjet Works Well At Interjet

Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:25 pm

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 37):
The engine direly needs a PIP. But that won't happen until a few hundred aircraft are sold. Chicken and the egg...

Indeed, which is why I think that Sukhoi's main priority should be to get as many aircraft delivered out there as possible. A larger in-service aircraft base will help them identify & troubleshoot problems faster, help develop their support business, promote the aircraft and help sales, help the business case for PIP's & upgrades... basically everything!

Sukhoi has managed to build an overall good aircraft IMO, putting away with the old image of unrealiable Russian airplanes. But it seems they haven't yet tackled the other "typical Russian" issue - production ramp-up! Let's hope that they eventually manage that..