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Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:11 pm

I found some pictures of Tacloban Airport after Super Typhoon Haiyan/Yolanda strikes 2 days ago, there are still number of areas that communications has not been restored, death toll is expected to sky rocketed once communication is back.

The last time I've seen similar images was the Tsunami that hit Japan in 2011, Sendai airport looks identical to this with less damages to the terminal buildings.

http://holland.pk/1elu


May all victims recover soon and those who perished rest in peace.

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Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:02 pm

Airport a madhouse of people waiting for something to happen to get them out of there.
CBS affiliate asking for a "Berlin Style" airlift.

An Airlift may happen but it will be too late for many.
Terrible human tragedy unfolding.
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Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:59 pm

I am down in the Philippines now. I was was scheduled to fly into TAC this week and have obviously cancelled the trip. I spent one hour on the phone today with Cebu Pacific "negotiating" my refund, because the airport no longer exists. The agent had no information for flights later in the week and was not so willing to refund my money! I said that you better get some updated information. The city and airport have been practically wiped off the face of Earth and nearly 10K people may have lost their lives. The situation is not going to change in the next 3 days, when I am scheduled to fly there. Finally, after being on hold for more than 30 minutes, they "granted" me my refund. I will see a credit back on my cc in 45-60 days. Cebu Pacific finds new ways to reach new lows, whenever I fly them  
 
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:24 pm

Quoting crownvic (Reply 2):
Cebu Pacific finds new ways to reach new lows, whenever I fly them

is 5J man, I'm so used to their nonsense I just laugh when they do something absolutely ridiculous.

The only reason why I keep flying them is becoz no other airlines can fly me to MNL from HKG for less than HKD$500 (USD$63) round trip, tax included.

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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:00 am

Quoting YLWbased (Reply 3):

You have obviously not experienced PQ's horrendous service or rather, lack thereof.
I have completed only one of the five flights on their Sin-Crk sectors I had booked as they cancelled the rest after repeatedly rescheduling them. Caused me untold trouble with my leave and extra expenditure booking on alternatives at short notice.
The were a mess even before they started flying their first fare-paying passenger. Thankfully, you won't have the "honor" of getting onto the Hkg-Crk route as they are now history at Crk. The inept PQ management might have shortened Tony Fernandes' life by quite a few years.

I also have issues with 5J, but like you, I happily bear with them for their super low prices. That being said, they are mostly on time which is very important. And they hardly cancel their flights due to so-called "operational reasons".
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:55 am

Quoting neutrino (Reply 4):
also have issues with 5J, but like you, I happily bear with them for their super low prices. That being said, they are mostly on time which is very important.

I don't find 5J cheap at all. To get the promos you need to book way way ahead of your flight and often the promo is often not available for your specific flight. As you get closer to the departure 5J is actually often a lot more expensive than PAL. Combined with their poor service and issues with safety, they are a no go for me.
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:32 am

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 5):
I don't find 5J cheap at all. To get the promos you need to book way way ahead of your flight and often the promo is often not available for your specific flight. As you get closer to the departure 5J is actually often a lot more expensive than PAL. Combined with their poor service and issues with safety, they are a no go for me.

I'd say it really depends on the time of the year, but they are usually very cheap to Cebu. I booked a return flight HKG-CEB-HKG in December for 900HKD (USD115) 1.5 months before, and on the most demanded weekend flights. This is quite unbeatable, though this is at the expense of good service and probably safety.
 
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Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:21 am

Quoting AF185 (Reply 6):
I'd say it really depends on the time of the year, but they are usually very cheap to Cebu. I booked a return flight HKG-CEB-HKG in December for 900HKD (USD115) 1.5 months before, and on the most demanded weekend flights. This is quite unbeatable, though this is at the expense of good service and probably safety

I have checked prices with 5J as well on this route and both price and depature times (before they were adjusted to a morning departure) were rarely attractive. AirphilExpress (now PALexpress) were usually cheaper and more attractive departure times.

The above is not relevant to this thread anyway. Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) is probably not going to be operational for commercial flights for quite some time.

Although Ormoc Airport (OMC/RVPO) never succesfully have had any commercial flights on a larger scale, does anybody know about the the condition of this airport?

And in case this airport is not damaged, could this be an opportunity to bring in flights to the Leyte Region?
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:27 am

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 7):
I have checked prices with 5J as well on this route and both price and depature times (before they were adjusted to a morning departure) were rarely attractive. AirphilExpress (now PALexpress) were usually cheaper and more attractive departure times.

The above is not relevant to this thread anyway. Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) is probably not going to be operational for commercial flights for quite some time.

Although Ormoc Airport (OMC/RVPO) never succesfully have had any commercial flights on a larger scale, does anybody know about the the condition of this airport?

And in case this airport is not damaged, could this be an opportunity to bring in flights to the Leyte Region?

I'm the type of traveler who book 12-18 months in advance just to save a few bucks, I already have ticket booked for Jan 2015 as of today, and I've yet to spend anything more than HKD$500 (round trip tax in) from Hong Kong to anywhere in the Philippines. Are there any other airlines that can provide me with that price? - NO. So it really depends on what type of traveler you are, if you're the type who buy at short notice, you should avoid all LCCs  

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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:11 am

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 7):
Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) is probably not going to be operational for commercial flights for quite some time.

Actually, TAC is now open for limited commercial operations. Only turboprops may land here, and PR/2P has planned a series of shuttle flights between CEB and TAC to help stranded passengers. A special MNL-TAC flight will be bringing in relief goods into the city. Most people leaving TAC in the aftermath of the typhoon ended up doing so via CRM (Catarman) or CYP (Calbayog).

It's a good thing then that there were plans to build a brand-new terminal for the airport.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=108677462&postcount=1684

Unfortunately, the money which could have been used for airport expansion was partially channeled to the controversial Disbursement Acceleration Program (DAP), the controversial program which has been condemned as a conduit for official corruption (around P1 billion went to senators who voted for the impeachment of former Chief Justice Renato Corona). TAC had P1.1 billion allocated to it, of which P700 million went to the DAP.

http://leytesamardaily.net/2013/10/d...n-danger-dbm-transfer-fund-to-dap/

[Edited 2013-11-11 02:14:44]
 
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:21 am

Quoting YLWbased (Reply 8):
So it really depends on what type of traveler you are, if you're the type who buy at short notice, you should avoid all LCCs

Sure it is. But 12-18 months is a looong time. I'm simply not able to know my whereabouts that long in advance due to work. I often book 1-3 months in advance - sometime 2 weeks. Sometime less. Travelling this way Cebu Pacific is rarely the cheapest option and I doubt majority of the seats are sold that far in advance as you buy them.
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Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:57 am

http://uk.ask.com/wiki/Daniel_Z._Romualdez_Airport

Given that the runway is just over 7,000 feet, could some smaller jets land as well as turboprops.

Clearly, mobile ATC will need to be provided, (possibly by the military).

They may also need to start with VFR only.
 
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:37 pm

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 9):
Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 7):
Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) is probably not going to be operational for commercial flights for quite some time.

Actually, TAC is now open for limited commercial operations. Only turboprops may land here, and PR/2P has planned a series of shuttle flights between CEB and TAC to help stranded passengers. A special MNL-TAC flight will be bringing in relief goods into the city. Most people leaving TAC in the aftermath of the typhoon ended up doing so via CRM (Catarman) or CYP (Calbayog).

The airport was open for operations immediately after the storm, but I think he meant "scheduled operations". I do not see this airport opening to scheduled flights for an extended period of time as the terminal is completely gutted out from flood damage. The only thing left is a ravaged shell that cannot be operational for a long time. The tarmac and runways are intact, but everything else is destroyed. Any of the flights operating now and for the foreseeable future will be special operations and I doubt will be bookable flights, but who knows? It appears even all the ground equipment has been ruined..
 
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:53 pm

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 10):
Quoting YLWbased (Reply 8):
So it really depends on what type of traveler you are, if you're the type who buy at short notice, you should avoid all LCCs

Sure it is. But 12-18 months is a looong time. I'm simply not able to know my whereabouts that long in advance due to work. I often book 1-3 months in advance - sometime 2 weeks. Sometime less. Travelling this way Cebu Pacific is rarely the cheapest option and I doubt majority of the seats are sold that far in advance as you buy them.

As YLW said, it all depends on the individual. It didn't seem to work for but fitted him to a T. Its also suitable for me; usually booking 3 to 8 months in advance at around USD80 to 100 for SIN-MNL/CRK-SIN. On other LCCs - Jetstar & Tigerair - I paid about 20 to 30 % higher whilst PAL lightened my pockets by approx three times that of 5J.
Only on PQ did I paid around the same as 5J but due to their MONUMENTAL sc***ups, I wouldn't touch them with even the longest wing spars again.
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:01 pm

I suspect the airport will be taken control of by the military with them running limited ATC ops and only during daylight hours mainly to bring in supplies, military persons for policing and evacuate people for the foreseeable future. I doubt only very limited numbers of commercial passenger flights will be resumed for many months due to the loss of almost all facilities. Apparently this airport and the adjacent city was located close to or on the coast in an area with the worst forces of the storm.

Any report on how other commercial airports in the central and southern Philippines do from this massive storm ? Apparently Cebu is mostly operational and will have to take up some of the commercial ops of Tacloban.

[Edited 2013-11-11 08:04:29]
 
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Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:06 pm

I've booked myself on 5J to ILO on Dec 6th to help with the relief effort, I'm trying to seek military approval to visit Tacloban and Guiuan area, if my request is granted, I'll publish a trip report here.

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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:47 pm

Those photos are startling and humbling...that looks like a terminal that is under demolition, not what was, until a few days ago, an active airport. What awful devastation. One can only imagine the human toll after seeing something like this.

Quoting crownvic (Reply 2):
after being on hold for more than 30 minutes, they "granted" me my refund. I will see a credit back on my cc in 45-60 days. Cebu Pacific finds new ways to reach new lows, whenever I fly them

You may have patience than me. At the ridiculousness of the situation, I would have hung up and called my credit card company and explained the situation. Let them deal with Cebu.
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:37 pm

Quoting crownvic (Reply 12):
The only thing left is a ravaged shell that cannot be operational for a long time.

How much building do you need to sell a few tickets, check bags, load and maybe fuel a plane for a 2 hour flight?
 
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Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:14 am

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 9):
It's a good thing then that there were plans to build a brand-new terminal for the airport.

This catastrophe would force a complete rethink of that planned terminal's design parameters...from apron and floor elevations, wind loads to shoreline protection. A built-up runway would be too expensive to justify for the volume of operations the airport would see...even with the possibility of the same category typhoon occurring periodically.

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 9):
Unfortunately, the money which could have been used for airport expansion was partially channeled to the controversial Disbursement Acceleration Program (DAP), the controversial program which has been condemned as a conduit for official corruption

Pork, by any other name, is just as bad. However, it's almost a "necessary" evil to get anything done. First order of business is to get the funds reinstated...the province's representatives have their work cut out for them. That project has just climbed up to the top of the domestic airport priority totem pole.


Quoting ltbewr (Reply 14):
Any report on how other commercial airports in the central and southern Philippines do from this massive storm ?

Not very detailed, but here's a blog report on that.....

http://imageshack.us/a/img841/4886/znrj.jpg

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.s...ibo-survives-busuanga-limping.html

Quote:
"The Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP) open on Sunday 10 domestic airports that was shutdown by typhoon Yolanda’s wrath Friday. Today Kalibo re-opens while Busuanga airport will open Tuesday after completion of emergency repair works.

Kalibo airport return to normal operations this afternoon with airlines resuming flights to Aklan leaving only three domestic airports - Tacloban, Roxas, and Busuanga - still closed for business due to major terminal damage but military and humanitarian flights are allowed to land.

CAAP Director General William K. Hotchkiss lll flew in Busuanga Sunday morning to bring emergency communication equipment to replace the ones damaged by typhoon winds and hasten the immediate normalization of airport operations.

There are close to 400 foreign tourists that is stranded in Coron, Palawan and may have to stay there longer until one of the C-130s make a scheduled flight tomorrow."


Quoting mham001 (Reply 17):
How much building do you need to sell a few tickets, check bags, load and maybe fuel a plane for a 2 hour flight?

A temporary facility would be alright for that...however, the plan is looking to build something which will serve the province for at least fifty years, if not for the remainder of this century.
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:12 am

Quoting mham001 (Reply 17):
How much building do you need to sell a few tickets, check bags, load and maybe fuel a plane for a 2 hour flight?

As far as I know, power cable to the airport has been completely destroyed in the storm, they'll probably also have to setup diesel generator if they want to restart a few commercial flights in and out, in a city where fuel is now in very limited supply, I doubt they'll waste their precious fuel on this.

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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:07 pm

Quoting richierich (Reply 16):
Quoting crownvic (Reply 2):
after being on hold for more than 30 minutes, they "granted" me my refund. I will see a credit back on my cc in 45-60 days. Cebu Pacific finds new ways to reach new lows, whenever I fly them

You may have patience than me. At the ridiculousness of the situation, I would have hung up and called my credit card company and explained the situation. Let them deal with Cebu.

I hear you...I just wanted to cover my butt. You would think the airline would have been proactive in contacting the customers to cancel the flights, but they were not. They probably think they can keep the money of people that are not going to bother to seek the refund!

Quoting mham001 (Reply 17):
Quoting crownvic (Reply 12):
The only thing left is a ravaged shell that cannot be operational for a long time.

How much building do you need to sell a few tickets, check bags, load and maybe fuel a plane for a 2 hour flight?

For one, you need power..Then there is security. You cannot operate unsecured flights, into out stations where the terminals are secure. You need proper crash, fire and rescue and all the other things that go into scheduled airline operations. Something this airport will not be ready, for quite sometime...
 
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:36 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24910209

This is the current BBC Report.

Aircraft seen include A330 CS-TMT of the Belgian AF.

http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-a330-96.htm
 
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Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:09 pm

The BBC are now reporting that the first British aid flight has arrived at Cebu Airport, (an Emirates B777F).

Seen at Tacloban

RP-C3031 of Philipines Airlines Express


6514 C130 of USMC. Apparently this one arrived empty to evacuate US citizens.
 
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Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:28 pm

RP-C3031 is a DHC8-402Q
 
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Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:37 pm

6514 is 166514 KC130J of VMGR152.
 
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:16 am

BBC are now showing AN124 UR-82060 of Antonov Airlines in a linked item

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24922083

Not sure if it is at Cebu or Tacloban.
 
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:31 pm

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 25):
BBC are now showing AN124 UR-82060 of Antonov Airlines in a linked item

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24922083

Not sure if it is at Cebu or Tacloban.

The plane's at CEB. There's not enough runway at TAC for that plane to land.
 
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:33 pm

Quoting Akiestar (Reply 26):
The plane's at CEB. There's not enough runway at TAC for that plane to land.

Here's a shot of it.....


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BY1a07NCYAAZnNR.jpg:large

Apparently, it was a delivery flight for a replacement transformer of FGP's San Lorenzo ngfpp.....

Quote:
"CEBU CITY—The Lopez-controlled FGP Corp., a wholly owned subsidiary of First Gen Corp., has successfully brought to the country on board the world’s largest aircraft a new 150-ton replacement transformer for FGP’s San Lorenzo natural gas-fired power plant in Batangas City.

The transformer was loaded on board the Antonov 225 (AN225) aircraft, which departed on Sunday, from Zagreb, Croatia, and arrived early Tuesday morning at the Mactan-Cebu International Airport.

FGP, in a press statement, said it saw a need to expedite the manufacture and delivery of the replacement transformer to ensure both sufficient power supply and stability of the Luzon grid, especially at this time when other areas of the country are experiencing insufficient and unstable power supply."


Not sure if it was also loaded with relief supplies.


In another development, a PAF C-130 overran the runway at Ormoc.....

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http://imageshack.com/scaled/medium/809/m4mr.jpg

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.s...af-c130-overruns-ormoc-runway.html

Quote:
" Ormoc City got the first taste of relief goods courtesy of a Philippine Air Force C-130 plane (3633) that landed this morning but the second flight also loaded with relief supplies overshots its runway this afternoon.

No one was reported hurt."
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:34 pm

TAC is now opeb for 24/7 ops thx to th US Marines
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:07 pm

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 18):
Pork, by any other name, is just as bad. However, it's almost a "necessary" evil to get anything done

The US is landing C130s at Samar. Rumor on Facebook has it that "no politicians are allowed to touch it".

Quoting crownvic (Reply 20):
For one, you need power..Then there is security. You cannot operate unsecured flights, into out stations where the terminals are secure. You need proper crash, fire and rescue and all the other things that go into scheduled airline operations. Something this airport will not be ready, for quite sometime...

I doubt that. They will have this airport operational for at least limited commercial service relatively quickly. They need it and they will make do with what they have. That is what you do following a disaster.

[Edited 2013-11-13 09:11:38]
 
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:15 pm

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 25):
BBC are now showing AN124 UR-82060 of Antonov Airlines in a linked item

That is definitely the one and only An-225 rather than the comparatively run-of-the-mill An-124.
 
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Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:48 pm

The US Marines are bringing power and lights today for 24 hr operations at Tacloban.

http://www.latimes.com/world/worldno...31113,0,454171.story#axzz2kY4RlDUH
 
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:24 pm

With only 3 active C130's + 6 older aircraft stored, this is not a good time to put one of them in the mud.

Incidentally, could any of the stored C-130B & L-100-20 be put back into the air?.
 
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Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:51 am

There was a Kallita B747 at Cebu. Just wondering who might have chartered the flight. Could it be carrying the Rubicon Team from SoCal?
 
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Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:19 pm

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2013/11/13/2003576748

Maybe Manila should ask for some of those Hueys sitting around various Taiwanese military airfields. But seeing they still can't get over the PRC/ROC issue and say publicly the ROC government , as opposed to NGOs etc are helping. Maybe they should ask Beijing for some choppers the PFA are trained to fly on already.   
 
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Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:19 pm

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2013/11/13/2003576748

Maybe Manila should ask for some of those Hueys sitting around various Taiwanese military airfields. But seeing they still can't get over the PRC/ROC issue and say publicly the ROC government , as opposed to NGOs etc are helping. Maybe they should ask Beijing for some choppers the AFP are trained to fly on already.   
 
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Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:48 pm

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 32):
With only 3 active C130's + 6 older aircraft stored, this is not a good time to put one of them in the mud.

Incidentally, could any of the stored C-130B & L-100-20 be put back into the air?.

Following the Armed Forces of the Philippines' (AFP) request, the Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) have extended the deployment of the second Hercules military transport to the Philippines to support the AFP's ongoing relief efforts. This aircraft will support the transportation of relief supplies and personnel between Manila and areas in the Visayas region.
Is that a fast temporary replacement for that mud-ed C130?

Singapore has so far sent two Hercs to airlift a total of S$320,000 worth of emergency supplies that include tents, groundsheets, medical stuffs and blankets. The first plane had previously returned home after offloading its goods and then performing evacuation duties from Tacloban to Manila.

Separately, volunteers from Singapore's Red Cross and also Mercy Relief have arrived in Tacloban to locally purchase and distribute hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of essential food and non-food items.

So both the government and private organisations are chipping in to bring much needed aid DIRECTLY to the victims.
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:53 pm

As described in the "lessons learned" report in the other thread, the logjam would be in the final distribution of relief goods and assistance. There's definitely a tremendous international response. Donors were probably expecting that once supplies are airlifted in, those would soon be in the hands of the survivors.

The meager resources the local governments had were washed away and what may not be so obvious is that the national government and the military do not have a surfeit of basic 6x6 trucks and AWD vehicles to reach the more inaccessible communities inland or the means to get those there...which advanced societies take for granted.

Logistics will shape the outcome of the relief and rehabilitation effort...moving, clearing, lifting and transport equipment lead that drive. Hopefully, the government has the emergency contract mechanisms to mobilize what are needed to make headway immediately...rather than rely on outside help...and that future allocations actually go to building up those capabilities.

Quoting trex8 (Reply 34):
Maybe Manila should ask for some of those Hueys sitting around various Taiwanese military airfields.

HUMVEES might be more useful and practical.

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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:57 pm

BBC News are now showing Emirates B777 A6-EFL, (presumably at Cebu).

Less images of aircraft at Tacloban though.
 
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:57 am

Emirates also had a 747-400F (One of the TNT leased ones) at CEB. I've seen photos of a National Cargo 744F parked next to an El Al 744, Cargo Airlines 742F and another 742F (The one with the wavy blue and yellow tail) parked all side by side in CEB. Seen photos of the Qatar coloured C-17 parked next to a grey C17 in the last few days as well.

Today, a British Airways 748F has headed there as well, and a Saudia 744F is there too.
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:22 am

Actually is seems as if in the last 24 hours there have been 3 Emirates freighters in CEB (Do they fly anywhere less than multiple times a day?!), also KLM 744F (For Etihad), SQ 744F, Atlas 747 as well.

Tomorrow there is another BA 748 in CEB as well as two Emirates freighters. These I know only because the Hong Kong Airport arrivals board shows them as arriving in HKG from CEB. There are I am sure plenty of other freighters there which have not come through HKG like an IL76 yesterday.
 
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Sat Nov 16, 2013 2:08 am

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 38):
Quoting CX Flyboy (Reply 39):

Photos of the above...and CF C-17 @ ILO.....


Denmark and Sweden join.....

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http://www.aircargoworld.com/Air-Car...s/2013/11/VolgaDneprIL76TD-big.jpg

Israel and Spain charters.....

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https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1463380_10151771106168325_639093705_n.jpg


Canadian Forces C-17 @ Iloilo.....

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http://imageshack.com/scaled/medium/208/gdix.jpg

http://wpmedia.o.canada.com/2013/11/photo-11.jpg.
http://wpmedia.o.canada.com/2013/11/photo-11.jpg


http://philippineairspace.blogspot.se/


Australia, Germany, Indonesia, Israel, Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan, Thailand and U.S. aid on the move.....

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http://imageshack.com/scaled/medium/842/0vf7.jpg

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http://www.jewishjournal.com/images/bloggers/IDFplane.jpg

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http://malaysiaflyingherald.files.wo...com/2013/11/hadr-1.png?w=640&h=428

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http://imageshack.com/scaled/medium/21/yvw7.jpg

http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2013/11/14/428624.jpg.
http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2013/11/14/428624.jpg


http://globalnation.inquirer.net/910...ry-out-task-under-rain-in-tacloban


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http://imageshack.com/scaled/medium/11/8hpz.jpg

http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/TF_I1IlFs6Gt0lg1IlYzgA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTQwODtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz03ODc-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/Reuters/2013-11-14T091118Z_1084299476_GM1E9BE1B0J01_RTRMADP_3_PHILIPPINES-TYPHOON.JPG.
http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/TF..._RTRMADP_3_PHILIPPINES-TYPHOON.JPG

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http://binaryapi.ap.org/78edb4b9b04f...332f36b004b10c5/preview.jpg?wm=api


Ukraine(?).....


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZFWUeICYAAX0Yh.jpg:large


Belgium and Emirates.....

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https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/999130_10151771106298325_84538092_n.jpg


Saudi Arabia.....

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https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/575359_10151771104773325_1009243515_n.jpg

[Edited 2013-11-15 18:43:02]
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:39 am

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 41):

Spotter's paradise especially for 4-holers.

Whose spiffy C-130 with a glossy finish?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1395975_10151771105618325_1630248960_n.jpg

[Edited 2013-11-15 20:00:39]
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:16 am

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 37):
As described in the "lessons learned" report in the other thread, the logjam would be in the final distribution of relief goods and assistance.

That is where the helicopters will shine. We have plenty of experience dropping food. At one time there was a proposal to throw individual packages which would flutter down without killing anybody but more difficult to horde. Corruption is probably the single biggest obstruction to distribution.
 
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:47 am

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 42):

Looks like Indonesia
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Sat Nov 16, 2013 5:53 am

Who owns that white tail B742?

 
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:29 am

BBC News yesterday indicate that C17 ZZ177 is on the way as well.


Most of these pictures seem to be at Cebu, (apart from heli and tilt rotors).


How are things progressing in getting the aid "up country".
 
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:49 am

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24954604

This is the latest story.

On the news, the number 177 could be seen on the nose.
 
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RE: Tacloban Airport (TAC/RPVA) After Haiyan/Yolanda

Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:59 pm

Quoting neutrino (Reply 36):
Following the Armed Forces of the Philippines' (AFP) request, the Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) have extended the deployment of the second Hercules military transport to the Philippines to support the AFP's ongoing relief efforts. This aircraft will support the transportation of relief supplies and personnel between Manila and areas in the Visayas region.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/image/886850/1384436714000/large16x9/768/432/typhoon-aid29.jpg.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/image...arge16x9/768/432/typhoon-aid29.jpg


Quoting CX Flyboy (Reply 39):
Seen photos of the Qatar coloured C-17 parked next to a grey C17 in the last few days as well.
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Quoting bennett123 (Reply 46):
BBC News yesterday indicate that C17 ZZ177 is on the way as well.
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http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/...namic/78/590x/raf-plane-443236.jpg

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http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/...ynamic/78/590x/secondary/97989.jpg


Landed already and being unloaded.....

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http://news.images.itv.com/image/fil...a3241ad6_1384594881_9j-4aaqsk.jpeg


India sends.....

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Tentara Nasional Indonesia.....

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https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/p480x480/1471391_611918718869083_1359305291_n.jpg


RMAF C-130.....

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http://malaysiaflyingherald.files.wo...com/2013/11/hadr-2.png?w=640&h=445

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http://malaysiaflyingherald.files.wo...com/2013/11/hadr-5.png?w=640&h=477


Quoting mham001 (Reply 43):
Corruption is probably the single biggest obstruction to distribution.

They better keep a watchful eye on those Rovers lest both end up in private garages.

[Edited 2013-11-16 15:50:22]
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Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:37 pm

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