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WestJet Announces Dublin From YYZ, YYT

Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:44 am

Just dropped. Route will be YYZ-YYT-DUB. Will also be offering connections to YVR, YYC and other locations in WS' domestic network.

http://www.westjet.com/guest/en/deal...tml?sm_cid=sm-tw-ge-20131115&mrd=0
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:17 pm

Wow, hope this flight works out for them! This sounds like an exciting foray for WestJet!
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:25 pm

Great! Would be good if it was year-round... but better than nothing. Will be interesting to see if AC will fight this, or how it will be affected by Aer Lingus to YYZ non-stop.
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:44 pm

The announcement does not say but I assume that service is on one of WS's 738's?
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:48 pm

Here is the official media link. Its a 737-700


http://westjet2.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=828
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:52 pm

Wow - we wait decades for a year round service to Dublin from Toronto, and three scheduled services come along at once!

Fantastic news.
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:56 pm

Is this officially WS first foray into the EU market?

Very good news.
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:58 pm

It's good news from a spotter's persepctive   (makes me happy) but is quite niche. It's surely more a YYT-DUB than a YYZ-DUB as with Air Canada and Aer Lingus hitting that market soon, I don't think a B737-700 stopping service is the way to go. Well if AC can make a go of YYT-LHR on an A319 on a seasonal basis let's see what WestJet can do in Ireland.
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:05 pm

From the article:
"WestJet's first transatlantic route will cut the current travel time from St. John's to Dublin by nearly half, and in just about the same time it takes to fly from Toronto to Calgary, guests are able to experience ancient castles, cobblestone roads, and the Cliffs of Moher."

how the heck are they gonna pull this off? Put afterburners on the planes?
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:12 pm

YYT-DUB is the same distance as RHO-DUB, i wonder if WS will use the same crew out and back? Its only a GC distance of 1781nm.
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:25 pm

schedule is YYZ-DUB 11:15pm- 7:00am DUB-YYZ 8:20am- 9:55am
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:28 pm

Wish them luck...don't think it will last. How much O&D is there between YYT and DUB? So will Westjet interline or codeshare with Aer Lingus to provide onward connections, or are they simply stating that DUB has 100 non stops just to beaf up their press release. Does Ryanair even do codeshare or interline? i dont think so.

Either way, I see AC dumping the fares on YYT-LHR just to make sure this little westjet faux pas doesn't last long !

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Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:33 pm

They are quoting a fare of $778 cad RT from YYC. Summer youth and backpackers will fill these flights
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:17 pm

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 9):
From the article:
"WestJet's first transatlantic route will cut the current travel time from St. John's to Dublin by nearly half, and in just about the same time it takes to fly from Toronto to Calgary, guests are able to experience ancient castles, cobblestone roads, and the Cliffs of Moher."

how the heck are they gonna pull this off? Put afterburners on the planes?

I presume they are comparing the flight time to going indirect via Toronto or via Heathrow, since you can't fly St Johns Dublin direct at the moment.
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:28 pm

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 11):
Wish them luck...don't think it will last. How much O&D is there between YYT and DUB? So will Westjet interline or codeshare with Aer Lingus to provide onward connections, or are they simply stating that DUB has 100 non stops just to beaf up their press release. Does Ryanair even do codeshare or interline? i dont think so

Interesting. Nfld certainly has a huge "connection" to Ireland... in the sentimental sense. Whether that means a "connection" in terms of people travellnig back and forth?. Time will tell, I guess.

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 11):
Either way, I see AC dumping the fares on YYT-LHR just to make sure this little westjet faux pas doesn't last long !

Surely not, that would be illegal.

AC will compete freely and fairly by offering the best price possible.

And should WJ turn out to be right - that there is a market for this route - AC will find a few spare 319's and suddenly offer service to a whole bunch of destinations.
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:39 pm

Surprising announcement, but, rather than a one off, surely the start of an increasing wave of new narrowbody services between Ireland/UK and Eastern Canada / NE US as the capabilities of the NEO and MAX come available to the airlines operating in this area. I'm sure FR, EZY, B6 (as well as AC) are all interested in this WS route development.
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:10 pm

Wow, I knew it! I was just looking at the max range of the 73N other day and was thinking they can reach Europe from YYT. Anyway this is awesome news for WestJet and for Canada. Anyone think they'll make an effort to serve LHR, MAN, LIS or CDG now that they're in Europe?
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:19 pm

Quoting YYZYYT (Reply 14):


AC will compete freely and fairly by offering the best price possible.

And with WS's impressive launch fare of $570 rt from YYZ through the summer, it's going to be hard to call any fare AC, EI, or TS offer on the route anything more than price matching!

The timing is a bit confusing though. Any ideas why they have a 1.5 hr layover in YYT on the outbound? I can understand it for customs on the way back, but that seems a bit excessive for through PAX on the way to DUB.
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:22 pm

Halifax-Glasgow next perhaps?  
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RE: WestJet Announces Dublin From YYZ, YYT

Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:27 pm

Quoting gkirk (Reply 18):
Halifax-Glasgow next perhaps?

Perhaps EDI-YYT-BOS and GLA-YYT-YUL all passing through YYT at the same time to allow low cost TATL connections "Icelandair style"
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RE: WestJet Announces Dublin From YYZ, YYT

Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:47 pm

Quoting YXD172 (Reply 17):
The timing is a bit confusing though. Any ideas why they have a 1.5 hr layover in YYT on the outbound? I can understand it for customs on the way back, but that seems a bit excessive for through PAX on the way to DUB.

Based on doing YYJ-HNL flights with regards to fuelling, it can take up to 45 minutes of pumping to put that much fuel on board. Since the flight is a little shorter, it shouldn't take quite as long, and I hope YYT has better fuel trucks that I have historically used in YYJ (our newer trucks just came on line this summer and I haven't done any of the CUN charters yet to get a feel for how long it takes to fuel a 737 to 35,000 lbs or more)

Some simple calculations based off of a 750 litres per minute flow rate.

Aircraft arrives with 12,000 lbs Fuel on board
Departure fuel is 38,000 lbs
Total fuel to be added - 25,000 lbs

Average weight of Jet A1 is - 1.78 lbs per litre.

Total approximate litres - 14100 litres

Time at 750 litres per minute - 19 minutes.

Till you do different required checks, and as the plane gets full flow rate decreases, it could very likely take a full 45 minutes for the fuelling operation to take place.

1.5 hours layover seems perfectly reasonable, time to get out, stretch, get some food, and then settle in for trans-atlantic flight.

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RE: WestJet Announces Dublin From YYZ, YYT

Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:53 pm

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 11):
How much O&D is there between YYT and DUB?
Quoting YYZYYT (Reply 14):
Interesting. Nfld certainly has a huge "connection" to Ireland... in the sentimental sense. Whether that means a "connection" in terms of people travellnig back and forth?.

There are still a lot of family and cultural connections between Ireland the Canadian Atlantic provinces; on a great circle from Ireland, it's the first place you hit (assuming you're a good sailor) ... the accents there are very Irish and Irish is apparently still spoken in many fishing villages. If you've ever seen the television series "Republic of Doyle", you'll see that the accents sound very Irish (apart from the lead actor, who is actually Irish anyway!).

It's gratifying that WJ's first foray to Europe should link it to the centre of the known universe. (Tiny bias there, perhaps  )
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:02 pm

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 7):
I don't think a B737-700 stopping service is the way to go.

It's a minimum risk commitment for an initial seasonal TATL service. The 73G will be no less comfortable than the UA and EI 752's on TATL flights.

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 11):
Wish them luck...don't think it will last.

It's a summer seasonal service only. It's not meant to last beyond Oct 2014. Whether it returns in 2015 is another story.

Quoting YYZYYT (Reply 14):
Interesting. Nfld certainly has a huge "connection" to Ireland... in the sentimental sense. Whether that means a "connection" in terms of people travellnig back and forth?. Time will tell, I guess.

Not just NL. This new service could also be attractive for Ottawa, Montreal and all Atlantic Canada, since it will enable travel to Ireland without backtracking to YYZ or hubbing through BOS, EWR or LHR.
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:20 pm

Very happy with this, just booked at weekend in St Johns from Dublin for a little over £200.


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Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:44 pm

I think it is very good and interesting. But I also think is Westjet this desperate and not have other opportunity in their comfort zone? This is scary. Did that smart Indian man who was manager of network planning already leave? I heard him speak once and he was very brilliant and passion full about Westjet and their CEO.
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:51 pm

This is a huge surprise, but I'm very pleased to see it. Hopefully it'll help drive AC and TS fares to Ireland and the UK down a bit. Just browsing through some flights in WS's booking system, there are some unreal prices, even from cities like Ottawa with a connection in YYT.

Any idea if they'll provide meals, or just buy on board? What is the case for WestJet charters to the south?

All I can say is best of luck to WS.
 
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RE: WestJet Announces Dublin From YYZ, YYT

Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:55 pm

Quoting YXD172 (Reply 17):
The timing is a bit confusing though. Any ideas why they have a 1.5 hr layover in YYT on the outbound? I can understand it for customs on the way back, but that seems a bit excessive for through PAX on the way to DUB.

Likely a crew change and ETOPS inspection being a primary reason, fueling time as mentioned is typical a 25-30 minutes. 1.5h isn't that long of a ground time for a international outbound. That also allows WestJet a bit of a buffer to keep YYT-DUB on time in the event YYT is behind, which is so often the case with anything in and out of YYT(WX).

[Edited 2013-11-15 11:05:41]
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:55 pm

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 22):
also be attractive for Ottawa, Montreal

Unfortunately WS doesn't fly YUL-YYT, so it's not really practical from Montreal. You'd have to backtrack to YYZ, and then still connect through YYT.

It would be great if WS added just a once-a-day service YUL-YYT to feed this route, as well as take some local traffic away from AC and Porter as well!
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:58 pm

Another foray outside of their "model". Westjet went from serving Canada exclusively, then added destinations within North America (including the Caribbean), then added a regional division, now adding Europe. They went from being an exclusively 737 operator to adding a second aircraft type. Their "successful" model will start to suffer as they move beyond their focus as expenses start to increase.
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:13 pm

Quoting Polaris (Reply 28):
Their "successful" model will start to suffer as they move beyond their focus as expenses start to increase.
What business model is that? Your talking the business model of WN from the mid 90s? That was effective in that era as many Canadians could not afford air travel, so they pioneered low cost flying but since has evolved to a more relevant identity for this modern day and age. Those people who couldn't afford to fly YYC-YVR in the 90s, are now flying YYC-CUN or YYZ-MBJ, YVR-OGG. Or are now flying to visit family rather then driving.

WS has been using the current model of " WestJet strives to be one of the five most successful international airlines in the world" for years now. WS responds to the demand of the market place. Just as any small or large business or corporation should do. While you are correct, CASM does increase, but it was only 10 days ago they announced a Q3 earning of 65 million dollars and 36th (I believe) consecutive quarter of profitability. Considering the enormous costs of initial start of a airline (Encore). One can conclude that the company is quite healthy and managing the CASM increase just fine. Stock price indicates that as well, looking at 1yr and 5yr.

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Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:23 pm

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 22):
It's a summer seasonal service only. It's not meant to last beyond Oct 2014. Whether it returns in 2015 is another story.

Wonder if there will be the same outcry when service is stopped or doesn't return as when AC cut back service for a time.  
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:51 pm

I would have expected them to do this after Encore flew in the region, but of course their planning team has better data than us.

The network planning team probably fell asleep though. I mean, the return departure is at 820am! That does not give many connection options. They should have known better especially if they are claiming this as a strong point in their press release -

"Once you get there, Dublin Airport provides more than 100 non-stop flights to other European destinations."

Quoting fidelidade (Reply 24):
Did that smart Indian man who was manager of network planning already leave? I heard him speak once and he was very brilliant and passion full about Westjet and their CEO.

Yes. He is gone. I agree though, he is a very passionate and smart man and I think we will see more from him. Right now, he is at InterVistas as Vice President for Airlines something.



[Edited 2013-11-15 11:52:28]
 
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RE: WestJet Announces Dublin From YYZ, YYT

Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:02 pm

Quoting Polaris (Reply 28):
Their "successful" model will start to suffer as they move beyond their focus as expenses start to increase.

Yes, but given that their OLD model was essentially fully implemented to the reasonable extent change is necessary or growth will stop. Success is continued by taking risks not by relying on the status-quo, which in actuality would be higher risk.
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:11 pm

Quoting kiramakora (Reply 31):
The network planning team probably fell asleep though. I mean, the return departure is at 820am! That does not give many connection options. They should have known better especially if they are claiming this as a strong point in their press release -

Are there any cheaper brand airport hotels at DUB?
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:16 pm

Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 27):
It would be great if WS added just a once-a-day service YUL-YYT to feed this route, as well as take some local traffic away from AC and Porter as well!

that could also feed domestic YYT service via YUL connections... (any more capacity to YYT would be welcome by me!!)


Here is a question:

Are Westjet aircraft are capable of serving hot meals? If not they will be competing with more traditional international TATL carriers who do... will that have any effect?

(OK, 2 questions)
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:33 pm

Quoting voodoo (Reply 33):
Are there any cheaper brand airport hotels at DUB?

There's only two within the airport property - Radisson and Clarion - but there's at least ten other hotels with shuttles including a Holiday Inn, a Travelodge, a Premier Inn and some no-branders. You'll usually find somewhere for well under €100 even in peak and as low as €50 or below otherwise.
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:11 pm

Quoting tguman (Reply 20):
Quoting wjv04 (Reply 26):

Thanks, makes sense when you look at it like that!
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Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:34 am

Do WS cabin crews work red eye turns? If this flight was operated by B6, just like most of our carribean flying, the pilots would layover while the flight attendants would operate it as a turn. Looks like an 11 hour duty day, so it's possible. Anyone have any insight?
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Sat Nov 16, 2013 2:03 am

Quoting ei 168 (Reply 4):

Here is the official media link. Its a 737-700

http://westjet2.mediaroom.com/index....m=828

Interesting that WS is launching YOW-YYT on June 15 as well. It's as if they feel they need all the connections they can get to make this flight work.

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Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:36 am

That's quite surprising. I wasn't expecting to see WJ expand across the Atlantic just yet. From a distance point of you, YYT-DUB is shorter than YVR-Maui, but I don't know how WJ will sway business travelers away or travelers beyond Dublin. Yes, if I lived on the East Coast, I'd have no problem flying with them, but being in central Canada, I'd have to connect through Toronto. Where's the advantage is that?

Is this destination intended only as a seasonal leisure for people who actually end their trip in DUB? It seems that way. Well good luck to WJ. So far they have proven that they know what they're doing. They have started routes before and canceled them, only to start them up again when the market was more profitable.

I think that once Encore is up and running as they want it to, they'll def. shift their sites to go long haul. It only makes sense. Like others said. Canada's market is very limited and WJ is probably at the limit of what they can do within the country, so that's why they had to expand into "regionals" and next the "long haul" routes will start popping up.

I can totally see YYC-NRT as being one of the first Trans Pacific route. (I know, I'm getting carried away)...
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Sat Nov 16, 2013 5:25 am

Quoting fidelidade (Reply 24):
I think it is very good and interesting. But I also think is Westjet this desperate and not have other opportunity in their comfort zone? This is scary. Did that smart Indian man who was manager of network planning already leave? I heard him speak once and he was very brilliant and passion full about Westjet and their CEO.

= Yes. He left at the end of August I believe. Articulate and passionate, he was one of the few network planners I have met who were not simple nerdy and boring! He is at a Vancouver based consulting firm I believe.

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Sat Nov 16, 2013 5:28 am

Do you think they will offer complimentary hot meal service? I am sure AC does on YYT-LHR
 
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Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:21 am

Transatlantic service in 737 economy class seat? OUCH... No, thanks, I'll pass.
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RE: WestJet Announces Dublin From YYZ, YYT

Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:59 am

This seems almost random from WS and pointless given the other options that are available to DUB out of YYZ. Having just flown the trip in September with AC I would struggle with the idea of doing it in a 737. The AC 763 wasn't new or anything but it was spacious enough and yes, I did pay the extra money for the seats up front because of the red eye flight coming back but it was money that was well spent. I can't imagine doing that flight in a very crammed 737, just not going to happen.

My own opinions aside here, some questions...

1) Connection options on the other end? Do WS & EI have any code sharing? In particular for those wanting to travel onwards to GLA/EDI/MAN etc.

2) Is there a hot meal service? Seems to be the standard for TATL flights (is there a legal obligation?)

3) Why not look at a 757 option such as the one they have used in the past for YYC/YEG - HNL? Would this not be a bit of a safer option for them?

I find this entire routing quite strange and a bit half assed to be honest. Would WS not better focusing on the operational success of Encore before moving onto a market they have never stepped foot into before. Also, would it not better to pick a destination aren't competing against AC and EI on? GLA/MAN/BFS all come to mind.
 
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RE: WestJet Announces Dublin From YYZ, YYT

Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:00 am

Quoting GCT64 (Reply 19):
Perhaps EDI-YYT-BOS and GLA-YYT-YUL all passing through YYT at the same time to allow low cost TATL connections "Icelandair style"
Quoting yyz717 (Reply 22):
It's a minimum risk commitment for an initial seasonal TATL service. The 73G will be no less comfortable than the UA and EI 752's on TATL flights.
Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 27):
It would be great if WS added just a once-a-day service YUL-YYT to feed this route, as well as take some local traffic away from AC and Porter as well!
Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 38):
Interesting that WS is launching YOW-YYT on June 15 as well. It's as if they feel they need all the connections they can get to make this flight work.

I think that a YYT scissor hub would allow 73G aircraft to reach several European cities, and like Icelandair, have a few key flights to YYC, YYZ, YUL, YOW, even YEG or YVR, 1 stop or 1 connect to Europe. Cool idea, let us see how this one route treats them, and maybe in the next few years we'll see more. YYT is geographically good for 737 TATL flights.
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RE: WestJet Announces Dublin From YYZ, YYT

Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:17 am

Quoting vio (Reply 39):

That's quite surprising. I wasn't expecting to see WJ expand across the Atlantic just yet. From a distance point of you, YYT-DUB is shorter than YVR-Maui, but I don't know how WJ will sway business travelers away or travelers beyond Dublin. Yes, if I lived on the East Coast, I'd have no problem flying with them, but being in central Canada, I'd have to connect through Toronto. Where's the advantage is that?

This may become the Achilles Heel for WS. The flight from YYT maybe short but for anybody other that people on the east coast you would have to change planes and sit in airports for a period of time. I don't see the appeal of this type of service.

Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 42):

Transatlantic service in 737 economy class seat? OUCH... No, thanks, I'll pass.

Really?! I guess you have not flown recently on US, UA, or even BA. WS economy be the crap out of UA, AA, and even DL and AC, assuming there would the same amenities as the other airlines they will be competing against.
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RE: WestJet Announces Dublin From YYZ, YYT

Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:25 am

Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 42):
Transatlantic service in 737 economy class seat? OUCH... No, thanks, I'll pass

The segment is shorter than Hawaii to the mainland, and 73Gs and 738s have been doing that for years, I just did my seconf trip on a 738 to Jawaii, and it's nicer than the 757, as there are less people, and aside from HA, there are very few W/B aircraft flying from west coast., it's all about the narrow bodies now.
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RE: WestJet Announces Dublin From YYZ, YYT

Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:29 am

Quoting Polaris (Reply 28):
Another foray outside of their "model". Westjet went from serving Canada exclusively, then added destinations within North America (including the Caribbean), then added a regional division, now adding Europe. They went from being an exclusively 737 operator to adding a second aircraft type. Their "successful" model will start to suffer as they move beyond their focus as expenses start to increase.

Dont forget DY started out with F50 in western Norway some 20 years ago. If you want to expand you need to do stuff outside your comfort-zone.

I just booked myself a trip from DUB to YYZ, since I have not been to Dublin before it will be a nice combination.

And for those who dont like Transatlantic Service in a 737 economy, just compare the trip to a trip from Scandinavia to the Canary Islands. TOS-LPA is 7 hours on a 738.... 4-5 hours seems like a walk in the park compared to TOS-LPA.
 
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RE: WestJet Announces Dublin From YYZ, YYT

Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:59 pm

It is possible to overthink this. I think it's a way for WestJet to dip its toe into a nontraditional market, will probably be with primarily with eastern Canada-Ireland traffic and stimulate some traffic that might not otherwise fly. WestJet has been rather methodical about every deviation from its core model that it has explored -- witness Transat vacation flying before launching its own Vacations division, the wetlease of 757s for Hawaii and how long it took WestJet to embark upon a regional subsidiary. There is no reason to believe the company would be any less methodical now.
 
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RE: WestJet Announces Dublin From YYZ, YYT

Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:16 pm

Quoting opethfan (Thread starter):
Just dropped. Route will be YYZ-YYT-DUB. Will also be offering connections to YVR, YYC and other locations in WS' domestic network.



Imagine all the new Transatlantic routing possibilities once the B737MAX and A320NEO are delivered.

We are going to see some very interesting new developments.