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Can Anyone Guess This Airport?

Fri Nov 03, 2000 10:19 am

This airport is in the top 50 in the world for PAX but it is in the top 20 for Traffic. It's located in the Northern Hemisphere. It is home to one of the largest 15 airlines with the World's 2 largest airlines visiting it daily. It is also a key destination to 2, new startup airlines. The USAF has a very small presence here. 737's and A320/329's are some of the most common visitors here with some more odd ones being an occaisonal FedEx Dc-10 or UPS 747. Kitty Hawk has a Dc-6 based here. FedEx also operates 6 Cessna Grand Caravans here. This airport has a almost new terminal with lots of room and space. It has 4 (8) runways and is capable of haveing the Space Shuttle do a emergancy landung here on one of its runways. It has a arrestor wire system installed on one of its "L" runways. Can you guess what airport im talking about???
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RE: Can Anyone Guess This Airport?

Fri Nov 03, 2000 10:22 am

My guess would be an airport in Germany, maybe FRA. But thats just a guess
 
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RE: Can Anyone Guess This Airport?

Fri Nov 03, 2000 12:07 pm

The shuttle thing is BS, no commercial airport has a runway and guidance system capable of landing a shuttle-it needs 15,000 feet of runway to land, and it uses a special guidance system to land. No civil airport in the world that I know of has a 15,000 ft. runway. The two longest that I know of are JFK and Madrid-Barajas, both around 14,500 ft. The USAF indirectly is involved with Barajas, they are based next door at Torrejon AB. You must have a bad source there.

Greg

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RE: Can Anyone Guess This Airport?

Fri Nov 03, 2000 12:13 pm

How about Jack Garland Airport?
 
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RE: Can Anyone Guess This Airport?

Fri Nov 03, 2000 12:16 pm

I think that you are talking about Lester B Pearson International Airport (CYYZ) in Toronto.
 
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Fri Nov 03, 2000 12:28 pm

Actually, DFW is one of the approved alternate Space Shuttle landing sites. A runway is not necessary; look at Edwards, it uses a dried lake bed.
 
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RE: Can Anyone Guess This Airport?

Fri Nov 03, 2000 12:37 pm

Honolulu's Reef runway can handle shuttle landings.
 
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RE: Can Anyone Guess This Airport?

Sat Nov 04, 2000 12:11 am

USAF, sure about the shuttle thing? FWA has a 12,000' runway and it is commonly told by the airport authority that this runway is capable of accommodating a shuttle landing. As for the guidance thing, maybe he is talking strickly from a runway length point of view, however, I suspect in an emergency situation, any real long runway would do. I honestly don't have stats, just telling you what is reported by our airport.
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RE: Can Anyone Guess This Airport?

Sat Nov 04, 2000 2:00 am

Anchorage?
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RE: Can Anyone Guess This Airport?

Sat Nov 04, 2000 2:41 am

I bet you mean Toronto's Lseter B. Pearson airport.
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RE: Can Anyone Guess This Airport?

Sat Nov 04, 2000 2:59 am

I'm going to cheat by looking at the original poster's username and say Pittsburgh (PIT).  

YYZ doesn't have the low-fare carriers he mentioned.
 
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RE: Can Anyone Guess This Airport?

Sat Nov 04, 2000 6:35 am

Ok, i change from Anchorage to Newark.
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RE: Can Anyone Guess This Airport?

Sat Nov 04, 2000 7:02 am

Is it Toronto??? AC has a major hub there, with American (the 2nd largest airline) flying there daily. The 2 new start-up airlines there is CanJet and RootsAir. Can YYZ's runways handle a shuttle landing?
 
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RE: Can Anyone Guess This Airport?

Sat Nov 04, 2000 7:29 am

The runway the shuttle lands on is 15000 ft. long typically. This may be to ensure that a shuttle will not be lost because of an overshoot. On a normal landing, the touchdown point is 3000 feet from the approach end, at a speed of between 210-225 mph. That probably requires a long runway. Also, the shuttle uses a special guidance system for landing, which requires special equipment. At all the alternates below, NASA would supply the equipment

About the Edwards thing-it lands on the lakebed, but not anywhere- there is a runway there made out of lake bed material It is Runway 04.

DFW wouldn't make sense because White Sands Missile Range, the second alternate site for landing, is sort of close (couple hundred miles) in New Mexico. Also the sonic booms it would cause as it would reenter would cause complaints. I know you all are going to jump at me and say "What about LA and Edwards" I think Edwards was the wrong spot to put a west coast landing facility. It makes three times more sense to have it at Vandenberg AFB in Lompoc, CA, which is the other rocket launch site. It is further away from LA, and a landing there wouldn't invlove All three main sites have runway lengths of 15,000 ft. or greater

All the alternate sites I know of are in Western Europe and North or West Africa.

I just found a list of all the approved sites and Honolulu is on them, I apologize, however, as I suspected, DFW is NOT on the list. US locations for landing are:

Westover AFB, MA
Otis ANGB, MA
Dover AFB, DE
Dyess AFB, TX
Edwards AFB, CA
Wright-Patterson AFB, OH
Andersen AFB, Guam
Grissom AFB, Indiana
Mountain Home AFB, ID
Honolulu, HI
Kennedy Space Center, FL
Orlando, FL
Lincoln, MA
Grant Country, WA
Myrtle Beach, SC
Cherry Point MCAS, NC
White Sands Missile Range, NM
Oceana NAS, Virginia
Ellsworth AFB, SD

Numerous others scattered around the four corners of the globe. Based on the list I see, I think MCO is the best possible answer to the original question.

I will be gone this weekend with no access to a computer, so if someone could e-mail me the answer at USAFHummer@aol.com, I would appreciate it.

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RE: Can Anyone Guess This Airport?

Sat Nov 04, 2000 7:56 am

Well if it's in the top 20 for traffic then according to Airports council it must be
one of the following:

Atlanta
Chicago O'Hare
Dallas
Los Angeles
Phoenix
Detroit (DTW)
Las Vegas
Oakland
Miami
Minneapolis
St. Louis
Long Beach
Boston
Denver
Philedelphia
Cinncinati
Paris (CDG)
Santa Ana
Washington (IAD)
Houston (IAH)

here's the link http://www.airports.org/traffic/movements.html

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RE: Can Anyone Guess This Airport?

Sat Nov 04, 2000 9:17 am

OAK??? It is home to Southwest. UA and AA visit daily. I know that the Concorde has been here, so I guess that in an emergency, the Space Shuttle might be able to land. Only know one start-up, though--Jet Blue.

The problem is that we always get Fedex DC-10s and MD-11s since it is Fedex's west coast hub. UPS 747s also come occasionally.

It doesn't fit perfectly, but my guess is OAK, Oakland International Airport.
 
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RE: Can Anyone Guess This Airport?

Sat Nov 04, 2000 9:42 am

Im going to second PIT.
 
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RE: Can Anyone Guess This Airport?

Sat Nov 04, 2000 10:50 am

Ididn't cheat, and I guessed PIT before reading the cheater's reply. PIT has three parallel runways (10-28), a fourth (14-32). Its major carrier USAirways operates 737s and A319/320s. Both UA and AA have flights to and from PIT. The PA Air National Guard operates KC-135s out of PIT. Toronto doesn't make sense because there is no USAF presence that I am aware of.
 
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RE: Can Anyone Guess This Airport?

Sat Nov 04, 2000 12:00 pm

Lincoln, MA?

I assume that means Hanscom Field (BED) - but there's no runway there long enough to land a space shuttle.

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