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Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:52 pm

Good afternoon folks and welcome to our third thread of 2014; we seem to be running at one thread per month!

Just a quick resume of what has happened in February:

- BA announces DUB/BHD flights to use T5 at LHR, from October
- Lufthansa increases DUB-MUC service in Summer
- All three of EI's 757s now repainted (well, two and a half, strictly speaking!)
- BE increasing services to BHD; also, DUB-EXT to get E-195.
- EI-BYO, oldest passenger airliner on the Irish register, damaged in wind related incident at SNN; likely w/o?
- FR announces DUB-LED for April
- Aer Lingus announces operating profit of €61m for 2013
- A350s now deferred to 2018-2020  
- More industrial action threatened over St. Patrick's weekend, due to ongoing EI/DAA pensions issue
- EI Regional pax up to 23% for January
- Ryanair again touts very low t/a fares; also, aims for 200m pax per annum. Says that only limit to growth in Irish tourism market is availability of aircraft
- SIA to close DUB office

So, with Summer only around the corner and the evenings getting longer, let's hope that 2014 will be another good year for Irish aviation, with passenger numbers creeping upwards and new positive new developments
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:54 pm

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
So, with Summer only around the corner

Well we need Spring to arrive here first   Its icy cold at night ! Hopefully as soon as the Shamrock shakes start flowing next week we will get some milder weather  
Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
- A350s now deferred to 2018-2020  

Yeah shame about that. Its like a finish line that keeps moving !!


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SIPTU furious over Aer Lingus threat to freeze staff payments

AER Lingus has upped the ante in the ongoing pensions dispute by threatening to freeze productivity payments to staff.

Management has warned that the payments, which average €1,200-1,400 per employee, will be withheld until the row has been resolved.

The move sparked a furious response from SIPTU, which this week served Aer Lingus with strike notice for the eve of the St Patrick's weekend.

However, union officials have been strongly condemned for "targeting" the St Patrick's weekend and were accused last night of "using people for leverage".

Hundreds of thousands of passengers face the prospect of travel chaos if the four-hour strike, scheduled for March 14, goes ahead.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news...reeze-staff-payments-30051937.html

If a strike goes ahead and EI loose EUR10-15 Million could they not just deduct that from the money being offered to the pension fund?
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:31 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
If a strike goes ahead and EI loose EUR10-15 Million could they not just deduct that from the money being offered to the pension fund?

Exactly! If SIPTU want to take the nuclear option here, maybe it is time to stand up to this b*llsh*t for once and for all. I think everybody is sick of this from the unions every time. Sickening...
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:14 pm

A United Airlines 757-200, operating flight UA133 (Munich-Washington) has just landed at DUB; a medical diversion I suspect. The flight is expected to continue on to IAD within the next 90 minutes according to Flight Status & Information on United.com.

I wonder what factors pilots consider when choosing a diversion airport. This flight turned around over Co. Donegal and BFS would seem closer than DUB...
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:31 pm

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
- FR announces DUB-LED for April

Where was this formally announced? They have approval for Ireland - Russia flights but Ryanair have not publicly announced or confirmed a start date.
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:39 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 3):

My guess would be that they have ground staff at DUB and do not at BFS.
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:48 pm

Quoting legacyins (Reply 5):

They have groundstaff at BFS too (UA flies daily on BFS-EWR).
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:55 pm

Hey all, quick question, OA260 you'll probably know. If I book DUB to YYC with EI can I get star alliance miles for the non EI operated leg? EI offer UA connections thru ORD or AC connections thru YYZ
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:50 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 6):

Thanks, I stand corrected. I thought it was only seasonal summer to BFS.
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:35 pm

Quoting shamrock104 (Reply 4):
Where was this formally announced? They have approval for Ireland - Russia flights but Ryanair have not publicly announced or confirmed a start date.

Sorry, I thought it had already been announced.

I have heard that the Russian authorities have recently announced their approval of non-refundable fares.

They have some guy called Yanukovich or something looking after their PR campaign; says he wants a new day return service to Kiev. "Fares so low it'll be a crime(a) not to fly" (is just one of the straplines that won't be used).
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:03 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 6):
They have groundstaff at BFS too (UA flies daily on BFS-EWR).

It could be a case where they have just their handling agent at BFS - they most likely have an "Ireland" station manager, who more than likely is DUB based, and this would probably be invaluable in a situation like that.
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:09 pm

Quoting Eirules (Reply 7):

Yes you can as even on one ticket make sure your UA number or whatever program in Star your crediting to is in the booking and check your UA BP says it too. Just check the class your booked in is elligable for accural in the program you are depositing them in.

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 10):

That indeed would be correct .
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:26 pm

Found this interesting video on YouTube of an Aer Lingus promotional movie from 1971!

Not sure if it has been posted before but definitely worth a look.

http://youtu.be/UdLQhHgA0F0
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:28 am

Good news for one regular Dublin visitor.

Etihad Airways has posted a 48% leap in profits for 2013, some performance!
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:50 pm

Afternoon! Parents were picking me up from DUB around 11am today and they said there was a UA flight being sprayed with foam by the fire brigade? I didn't get to see myself. Any ideas?
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:44 pm

I'll just leave this here:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=581786968577520&set=a.356943141061905.87283.356935764395976&type=1&theater

[Edited 2014-03-04 07:45:18]
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:35 pm

Hallalujah! Civilisation has returned ... Aer Lingus is bringing back the chicken and stuffing sandwich!
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:54 pm

A minor detail but I know it came up here some time ago; it appears the K for St Keeva has been capitalised on EI-DAA.
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:00 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 17):
A minor detail but I know it came up here some time ago; it appears the K for St Keeva has been capitalised on EI-DAA.

My OCD kicked in everytime I saw that aircraft
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:23 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 16):
Hallalujah! Civilisation has returned ... Aer Lingus is bringing back the chicken and stuffing sandwich!

Only one more thing left to bring back - the spaghetti/meatballs they briefly had - and I'll be sorted.
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:10 pm

EI-DCL (the FR 738 in the Boeing Dreamliner livery) has been repainted with a slightly new scheme:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151892942705146&set=a.416005475145.198009.369603635145&type=1
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:58 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 20):
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151892942705146&set=a.416005475145.198009.369603635145&type=1

I don't like the tail! I think this was one of the few non-yellowfied cabins..hope they haven't changed this aswell...a lot easier on the eyes at 5.40am!
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:04 pm

Have you seen the revised timetable at EI for March 14th?

http://www.aerlingus.com/travelinfor...oufly/flightdisruptioninformation/

Loads of cancellations, and some major re-scheduling, for example the 592 to Madrid that usually leaves around 6.20am is now scheduled for 6pm. Fair play to EI for such advance notice.

And what a disgrace how SIPTU are affecting the traveling public on the first really important holiday weekend of the year. Very bad for impression of Ireland in general. I'm sick and tired of that shower of puppets. And I'd say they will loose a lot of public support (if they have any at this stage) if all this is publicised by the media.
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:44 pm

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 22):
And what a disgrace how SIPTU are affecting the traveling public on the first really important holiday weekend of the year. Very bad for impression of Ireland in general. I'm sick and tired of that shower of puppets. And I'd say they will loose a lot of public support (if they have any at this stage) if all this is publicised by the media.

There is no place for an union like this in the modern world.
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:47 pm

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 22):
Have you seen the revised timetable at EI for March 14th?

Yep its been causing a lot of extra work for everyone! The damage has been done even if its called off last minute. The major connections to LHR/AMS/FRA will cause a mess purely because you are dealing often with two more flights after if its down to OZ.

Its sad to think that these people deliberately chose the most important word wide known Irish cultural event in a year where the Irish tourism industry is trying to pick itself up from a major downturn. But then again this isn't just an airline its Aer Lingus   We have all been here many times before over the last two decades...

Lets hope BA can pick up some of the LHR EI refugees.
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:16 pm

Quoting EIBoston (Reply 23):
There is no place for an union like this in the modern world.

Sadly, I 110% agree with you.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 24):
Yep its been causing a lot of extra work for everyone!

I can imagine.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 24):
Its sad to think that these people deliberately chose the most important word wide known Irish cultural event in a year where the Irish tourism industry is trying to pick itself up from a major downturn.

Very true. It just goes to show the arrogance and selfishness on these people.
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:23 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 24):
Lets hope BA can pick up some of the LHR EI refugees.

Hopefully the DAA don't follow with their own strike action somewhere down the line because nobody will be going anywhere if that happens.
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:41 pm

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 26):
Hopefully the DAA don't follow with their own strike action somewhere down the line because nobody will be going anywhere if that happens.

The DAA are striking at the same time as EI are.
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:13 pm

Quoting EIDL (Reply 27):
The DAA are striking at the same time as EI are.

Blimey I thought it was just EI for the moment, bad enough with that but the DAA strike will surely lead to disruption across all airlines?
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:42 pm

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 28):
Blimey I thought it was just EI for the moment, bad enough with that but the DAA strike will surely lead to disruption across all airlines?

It will. It might be reduced in so far as the ATC aren't striking SIPTU and the Aer Corps may be able to provide fire cover - they have their own modern airport tenders, they can't use the DAA ones or else the bolshier union members will refuse to touch them afterwards, which would at least allow incoming craft to land and possibly have some basic ground handling done - but it is definitely going to have an impact.
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:39 am

Passenger figures at Aer Lingus fell by 1.2 per cent in February as the number of people flying on the airline’s short haul routes fell compared to a year earlier.

The 3.8 per cent decline on the mainline route came despite a 7 per cent rise in long haul travellers to 46,000 for the month.

Passenger load factor was also lower, declining to 67.3 per cent from 68.3 per cent a month earlier.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/s...s-down-passenger-figures-1.1714801
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Thu Mar 06, 2014 12:07 pm

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/s...ssengers-who-did-not-fly-1.1699223

Why would there be such a high no show rate for flights? 10% seems a lot.
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Thu Mar 06, 2014 12:33 pm

Quoting RandWkop (Reply 31):
Why would there be such a high no show rate for flights? 10% seems a lot.

Any number of reasons....weekend trip booked but due illness did not travel. Maybe used insurance rather than contact airline for taxes.

Other pax may have been delayed/disrupted and miss their original flight but get rebooked by airline and aren't aware that they can get taxback.

I know of one businessman who prebooks several FR flights months in advance at special offer prices. He knows that he will use 50% of them as he needs to travel to the UK and back.

This 'no-show' rate allows the number crunchers in some airlines to overbook flights, they rely on the 'no-show' rate to allow them to have high load factors even with no-show's.
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:39 pm

I was one of the reasons for that. Back when I had more spare cash (pre-mortgage basically!) I used to book EI and very occasionally FR tickets DUB-LGW for pretty much every Brighton home game that happened during the periods of the year that the last EI LGW-DUB flight operates - to allow a day trip over. More often than not I didn't actually use them - work commitments, the stadium selling out, used the outbound and not the return as I stayed over, etc.

I would estimate the LCC noshow rate is far, far higher than legacy airlines and could easily exceed 10%.
 
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Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:21 pm

Interesting article on TK and its talks with EI . Shame nothing became of it. Also up to 4 x daily would be amazing !!

Turkish Airlines still regards Dublin Airport as a potential transatlantic hub despite unsuccessful efforts to broker a partnership with with Aer Lingus two years ago, according to its chief executive, Dr Temel Kotil.

The airline is preparing to increase its existing service from Dublin to Istanbul from eight to 12 flights a week on April 1st, and Dr Kotil indicated that it could ultimately increase this to four times daily.

He said that Turkish Airlines, ranked 10th in the world on the basis of international passengers, aims to operate four flights a day on all the routes which it operates.

He added that his company regarded Dublin Airport as a potential “gateway to the entire Atlantic”.

He confirmed that two years ago, the airline began talks with Aer Lingus regarding a possible partnership that would involve Turkish feeding passengers to transatlantic services operated by the Irish carrier.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/s...tial-gateway-to-atlantic-1.1715510

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Abu Dhabi airline Etihad has increased its stake in Aer Lingus to just over 3pc.

A filing with the stock exchange shows that Etihad passed the 3pc threshold on February 28 and notified the market this week of the change.

Etihad declined to comment beyond confirming that it had raised its holding in Aer Lingus.

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...r-lingus-to-over-3pc-30070526.html
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:28 pm

If EI buys the A321NEO and it has the range to fly non stop on routes across the north atlantic would they consider expanding their service from Belfast and or Cork to KBOS or KJFK? Or would they look at additional routes from SNN or DUB?
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:19 pm

Quoting georgiabill (Reply 35):
If EI buys the A321NEO and it has the range to fly non stop on routes across the north atlantic would they consider expanding their service from Belfast and or Cork to KBOS or KJFK? Or would they look at additional routes from SNN or DUB?

Is there enough demand to support two services to New York from Belfast?

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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:41 pm

Quoting richcandy (Reply 36):
Is there enough demand to support two services to New York from Belfast?

In one word NO. We are lucky we have one and that was nearly axed. Only the tax reduction saved it. If UA pulled out then there would be an opening for EI with such an aircraft but otherwise its not economical. A sizeable amount still take the 24 hour express bus down to DUB for TATL travel.
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:18 pm

Quoting georgiabill (Reply 35):
If EI buys the A321NEO and it has the range to fly non stop on routes across the north atlantic would they consider expanding their service from Belfast and or Cork to KBOS or KJFK? Or would they look at additional routes from SNN or DUB?

I think there will certainly be new routes considered; obviously it depends on what the range is. The published range is 3,650nm, or 4,200mi, which as you can see from the attached map, covers most of the Eastern seaboard, though of course it takes no account of Winter headwinds. Still, there is potential for a lot of growth.

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=3650nm%40DUB

I would like to think that ORK can one day get a t/a flight; even a flight to a hub like BOS, where it can feed into a major regional network, such as B6's, should help.

Incidentally, is it EI's plan to use the A321neo solely on t/a flights, or can we also expect to see it on busy short haul routes?

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Heads up ... we should be hearing very shortly about the result of FR's appeal against the British Competition Authority's ruling, directing it to sell its stake in EI. The announcement is due imminently ...
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:22 pm

Tissues out, violins at the ready. FR has lost. They will need to sell the majority of their shareholding in EI ...

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2014...00829-ryanair-competition-britain/
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:22 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 38):
Heads up ... we should be hearing very shortly about the result of FR's appeal against the British Competition Authority's ruling, directing it to sell its stake in EI. The announcement is due imminently ...

Already dismissed at 1630 !  
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:52 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 39):

Tissues out, violins at the ready. FR has lost. They will need to sell the majority of their shareholding in EI ...

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2014...00829-ryanair-competition-britain/

OMG, so is the end of it??!! Or can FR try to fight it again and continue to needlessly drag this out.

While I am, very much to my own amazement, losing my long held grudge against FR, I would still never like to see them get their hands on EI, and if the above is the end of it, well I could actually cry from joy!!
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:21 pm

I'd say FR are probably relieved at the chance to offload part of the industrial relations basketcase of an airline that EI continues to be.
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:36 pm

Quoting captainmeeerkat (Reply 42):

I'd say FR are probably relieved at the chance to offload part of the industrial relations basketcase of an airline that EI continues to be.

Well Ryanair are appealing the decision on the appeal so they don't seem relieved at all. They could offload it at any time if they wanted.

"Following today's announcement, the airline said it noted the ruling and has instructed its lawyers to take the case to Britain's Court of Appeal."

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2014...00829-ryanair-competition-britain/
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:59 pm

Ha! Been hit with my first strike while flying (as a passenger, God knows French ATC have had their fun with me while working). Going on FR to BVA next Friday, the day of the DAA strike. It's actually not too bad, if anything it means I have an extra hour in bed and less sitting around in BVA waiting for the GRO flight! I just feel bad for people who actually do have tight connections or plans destroyed.
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:35 pm

Here's a drawing of the new Gold Circle lounge at Heathrow T2, Aer Lingus are due to move in July.




Source: https://twitter.com/SeanFionn/status/441994020349571072

Similar style to the DUB, BOS and current LHR T1 lounge, like the consistency there and loving the big windows and views of the runway. I'll have to book a flight out of T1 before they move, sounds odd but I'm rather fond of the green mile.
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:58 am

During the strike next week Titan will operate for EI with a B767 DUB-LHR

EI 162 and 174 are down to operate 14/3 .
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:18 pm


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Great photo of what will be EI-LBT at SNN yesterday on the front page. Looking very sharp I must say, this is what should have been on the front page a few weeks back 
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:24 pm

Quoting Phen (Reply 47):
Looking very sharp I must say, this is what should have been on the front page a few weeks back

At least it's on the front page today! Looks great.
 
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RE: Irish 3/14: Wings In Spring

Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:04 am

Quoting Phen (Reply 47):
Looking very sharp I must say, this is what should have been on the front page a few weeks back 

Indeed it looks great now its been done properly. I saw a media publication the other week and all of the inaugural photos and presentation plaques will be a forever historic memory that the 1st one was not done right. Call me picky but I just like things done right with attention to detail.  

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DAA seeks injunction to avert planned strike action
Siptu is planning four-hour work stoppage at three airports on Friday next

The Dublin Airport Authority (DAA) has been granted leave to seek a High Court injunction against Siptu’s planned strike action at Dublin and Cork airports next Friday.
The DAA claimed it had no choice but to take legal action after the trade union declined to “respond positively” to two separate communications calling on it to lift the threat of industrial action.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/s...rt-planned-strike-action-1.1716450

Hopefully they get it.

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