|Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 2):|
The biggest item of interest I can find in the new Southwest schedule for CLE is the contiunuation of CLE-LAS beyond the summer schedule. The route appears to have become year-round.
Interesting. So instead of starting CLE
this fall, they are just going to keep the CLE
going (head to head with UA
) all year. I suppose they can easily shuttle PHX
bound passengers through this LAS
|Quoting atlflyer323 (Reply 3):|
Hmm... as a resident of Canton I love CAK and don't want to see WN shift any flights from CAK to CLE (Unlike many of the other posters on this forum). CAK has always pride itself on easy access, relaxed environment, and cheap fares. Now the UA is de-hubbing CLE and if the article is hinting more ULCC service in CLE I don't think things look too great for CAK. I don't see doom and gloom happening for my favorite little airport, but CLE will now provide cheaper fares and with less flights and less passengers a more relaxed environment (still not like CAK, but not as busy as previous years). I could see CAK losing some CLE originating passengers that may have made the drive down to CAK before if Frontier or Spirit start adding more sun destinations from CLE. That being said the folks at CAK run a pretty tight ship so I hope they are planning ahead accordingly.
I don't think doom and gloom is on the horizon for CAK. CAK has branded itself as the low cost airport of NE Ohio, but I do think they'll end up losing a lot of passengers who previously drove down from Lorain/Cuyahoga/Lake Counties. We all know that CAK's explosive growth over the past decade came from discount leisure travelers looking for bargain flights. CAK will probably start to see their passenger levels return to early 2000s levels over the next few years if CLE
prices drop a bit.
For example, Frontier announced year round service from CLE
. That will likely siphon off those families bound to Orlando on cheap AirTran CAK flights from the Cleveland area. If you notice on today's WN
drops from twice daily to once daily this fall. Not sure if that's a seasonal adjustment, however I'm pretty sure CAK-MCO
has been twice daily year round. Perhaps WN
is factoring in lighter projected loads at CAK. WN
also reduced CAK-BOS
to 1x daily, this had also been 2x daily for quite some time.
CAK has fed off price conscious consumers and with WN
being their major carrier now, folks in NE Ohio searching on internet sites like kayak will no longer see those fares show up when they select "show nearby airports". With once a year travelers not being very savvy or familiar with southwest, this could hurt CAK and help CLE
. I have noticed that CAK has started an advertising campaign telling people that they can only find fares on southwest.com.
With that said, if F9
comes into CLE
and adds a flight to TPA
this fall, it will really hurt CAK. But who's to say that Spirit doesn't open up shop in CAK and bring fares lower than CLE
CAK runs a pretty good airport and their branding/marketing are excellent. However, every time I've flown from CAK, it's been on Delta and the old terminal where the legacy carriers operate is anything but pleasant, comfortable, and relaxed.
In the end, it's sad that our two airports have to fight for the same passengers. Inevitably growth at CLE
comes from CAK and vice versa. Hopefully CLE
and CAK can both find their own niche and make it work. But with CAK now riding almost solely on WN
, they are in the same boat as CLE
was last year riding solely on UA