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MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:49 am

Due to length part 38 was locked for further contributions. Please feel free to continue your discussion in part 39:

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 1 (by Longhornmaniac Mar 7 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 2 (by LipeGIG Mar 7 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 3 (by SA7700 Mar 8 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 4 (by SA7700 Mar 8 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 5 (by SA7700 Mar 8 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 6 (by SA7700 Mar 9 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 7 (by SA7700 Mar 9 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 8 (by jetblueguy22 Mar 9 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 9 (by SA7700 Mar 10 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 10 (by SA7700 Mar 10 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 11 (by jetblueguy22 Mar 10 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 12 (by SA7700 Mar 10 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 13 (by SA7700 Mar 11 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 14 (by SA7700 Mar 11 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 15 (by jetblueguy22 Mar 11 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 16 (by SA7700 Mar 12 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 17 (by 777ER Mar 12 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 18 (by jetblueguy22 Mar 12 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 19 (by SA7700 Mar 13 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 20 (by SA7700 Mar 13 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 21 (by SA7700 Mar 13 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 22 (by SA7700 Mar 13 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 23 (by SA7700 Mar 14 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 24 (by SA7700 Mar 14 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 25 (by SA7700 Mar 14 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 26 (by SA7700 Mar 15 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 27 (by SA7700 Mar 15 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 28 (by jetblueguy22 Mar 15 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 29 (by SA7700 Mar 16 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 30 (by SA7700 Mar 16 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 31 (by jetblueguy22 Mar 16 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 32 (by ManuCH Mar 17 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 33 (by jetblueguy22 Mar 17 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 34 (by SA7700 Mar 18 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 35 (by SA7700 Mar 18 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 36 (by jetblueguy22 Mar 18 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 37 (by SA7700 Mar 19 2014 in Civil Aviation)

MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 38 (by jetblueguy22 Mar 19 2014 in Civil Aviation)


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**** ADDITIONAL NEWS REPORTS ****

MH370: search for missing Malaysia Airlines plane extended to southern Indian Ocean

Najib's full press statement on MH370

Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370: What we know so far

MISSING MH370: Timeline

Flight MH370: Police focus on pilots as search for airliner goes on - live updates

Flight MH370: New timeline casts doubt on pilot deception theory

MISSING MH370: ACARS cannot be disabled

MISSING MH370: Search for missing aircraft above politics: Hishamuddin


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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:01 am

Quote:
I do not expect the debris to be in the same location after 4+ days.


Not to mention the strong drift leading into the WA current. Search area in magenta.

http://i.imgur.com/cJqPJP9.jpg
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:03 am

We have to remember they don't just release their best photos to benefit us.

For me, the most telling thing is the location.... it matches the ping data very well.

So even if it whales for now (which I doubt because of correlating radar data, whic we only hear about), I feel the plane is around there.... close.

I think this is it.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:03 am

Quoting KIAS (Reply 1):

Is the map indicating the current is moving northeast? Could that mean debris may eventually hit the beaches of Australia?
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:05 am

Quoting chaseus1 (Reply 2):
I think this is it.

I think that as well, but as I mentioned previously, I will not be 100 percent convinced until it is spotted by a human from a ship or a plane.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:06 am

Or catch one of those strong currents to the north... or east....

Let's hope they can find most of the floating debris right away.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:06 am

From what I can see in the images, the 24 meter one looks to me like a Galley/Toilette complex. Not much more can be deduced from that resolution. But the Australians are certainly not mobilizing they way they are just by going on those two images at that quality.

I really hope we get the ones with more quality, or pictures from the planes.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:09 am

Could the tail of the aircraft float? Because I zoomed in on the photo 200% and I can see that the black marking could be the malaysian air symbol as seen on its tail and it fits scale wise to the leading edge dimension.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:11 am

Wow, some actual news this morning. I hope that this is the right track, and they can start a proper investigation soon. I feel for the families, but at least they now might find out what happened to those on board.

And I hope we don't have to read about sneaky Chinese or flying Twitter-fishes any more.  
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:14 am

Quoting monjonman (Reply 9):
Could the tail of the aircraft float?

Fairly improbable. The tail on the 777 is metal. If the rudder were to detach, that might float as it is a honeycomb structure with composite layers. Lots of trapped air.

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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:14 am

Quoting AR385 (Reply 6):
From what I can see in the images, the 24 meter one looks to me like a Galley/Toilette complex. Not much more can be deduced from that resolution. But the Australians are certainly not mobilizing they way they are just by going on those two images at that quality.

What planes do you know of with a 24m galley, or toilet? The entire aircraft is only 63m long.


Quoting garpd (Reply 11):
Fairly improbably. The tail on the 777 is metal. If the rudder were to detach, that might float as it is a honeycomb structure with composite layers. Lots of trapped air.

The tail of the 777 is composite not metal.

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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:18 am

Quoting monjonman (Reply 9):
Could the tail of the aircraft float?

I was wondering if it's the tail section too. It looks like there's three skinny bits coming off the end (towards the bottom side of the image).
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:19 am

Not a mod, but I think it is good to have a trail.

Quoting UA444 (Reply 8):
39 threads. Is this an A.net record?

Without a doubt.

Quoting 77west (Reply 13):

Quoting garpd (Reply 11):
Fairly improbably. The tail on the 777 is metal. If the rudder were to detach, that might float as it is a honeycomb structure with composite layers. Lots of trapped air.

The tail of the 777 is composite not metal.

Indeed. It could float either way though. Boeing didn't build it to be heavy so there are likely a lot of air spaces inside.

[Edited 2014-03-20 03:58:04 by SA7700]
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:21 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 13):
Indeed. It could float either way though. Boeing didn't build it to be heavy so there are likely a lot of air spaces inside.

Quite true. Even metal can float given the right conditions. IE Buoyancy.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:22 am

Quoting 77west (Reply 10):
What planes do you know of with a 24m galley, or toilet? The entire aircraft is only 63m long.

The key word in my post, of course being "complex." Implying toilettes, galleys and more.

I´ll be open to any suggestions you can provide on the images.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:25 am

Quoting laxboeingman (Reply 3):
Is the map indicating the current is moving northeast? Could that mean debris may eventually hit the beaches of Australia?

Not sure, but I believe it would take quite a while for debris to travel that distance. From what I understand, the current movement is somewhat circular for objects within a certain area, despite the general direction of the current.

Here is a good (rather in-depth) read about forecasting ocean drift and how it relates to SAR: http://met.no/Forskning/Vare_forsker...ckett/filestore/Chap23-Hackett.pdf

Quoting monjonman (Reply 9):
Could the tail of the aircraft float?

Possibly? The majority of the 777 is aluminum alloy, however the fin and stabilizers are made from toughened matrix CFRP (carbon fiber reinforced polymer). Density depends on the laminant and I'm not sure how that compares to salt water, and if/how if may have broke off, whether it absorbed water and sank...
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:25 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26659583

great updates on the debris...

CCTV News tweets: #US P-8 has arrived in Indian Ocean area; US 7th Fleet spokesperson confirms they have located the debris identified by #Australia. #MH370

we'll know very shortly if this is a part of the plane....

i hope its not- my heart goes out to the families. I still nurtured the notion the passengers were hostages...
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:29 am

Quoting 77west (Reply 14):

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 13):
Indeed. It could float either way though. Boeing didn't build it to be heavy so there are likely a lot of air spaces inside.

Quite true. Even metal can float given the right conditions. IE Buoyancy.

For example, you know, a metal cruise liner. 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:29 am

Quoting AR385 (Reply 15):
The key word in my post, of course being "complex." Implying toilettes, galleys and more.

I´ll be open to any suggestions you can provide on the images.

I would like to refer you and the rest of the pack to post 237 of the previous thread by a.netter "ERJ135":

Quoting ERJ135:
am unable to give sources or any other information, however I am looking at a hard copy of the satellite imagery which clearly shows the two pieces of debris.
The larger one at 24 metres is definitely a part of an aircraft wing, if it is the 777 we are looking for it would be from the engine pylon to the tip. The other part is harder to tell what it is.
The credible information is that it was found at the extreme fuel range of the aircraft off the West coast of Australia near Perth. The theory of a Helios type tragedy is now most likely but is still speculation.
 
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Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:30 am

Whatever else this business turns out to be, locating the wreckage (if that's what has happened) represents a truly marvellous achievement by the air forces and navies involved.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:30 am

Remember these images were taken on the 16 March, so 4 days has passed since they were taken.

At the AMSA news conference they mentioned evidence of a debris trail, so the two released images are only part of the information they have available.

I'd suggest this is looking fairly certain.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:31 am

Quoting LandSweetLand (Reply 12):

Yep after looking at it again I am even more convinced that it is the vertical stabilizer in the image with it's leading edge to the left and the top of the tail is at the top of the photo.the symbol seems to be pointing at the correct angle to the leading edge as well.
 
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Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:32 am

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 24):
I would like to refer you and the rest of the pack to post 237 of the previous thread by a.netter "ERJ135":

I read it, thank you. I also would like to refer you to my post on this thread:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 6):
I really hope we get the ones with more quality, or pictures from the planes.

He is probably looking at those images, not at the ones posted here. And my inference was made on those ones.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:38 am

CCTV News tweets: The pilot on US P-8: Radar hits seen not believed to be linked to objects identified by Australia.#Update #MH370


so... They've found different debris?
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:42 am

According to a Chilean newspaper... Australian authorities have claimed the debris might not be related to flight MH370. Link only in Spanish sorry:

http://www.emol.com/noticias/interna...elacionadas-con-avion-perdido.html

To some people in the forum, could you please be so kind to keep this thread accident related only? asking for how many feet is 24 meters, or what acronyms stand for is ok... but easily googleable.

P.

[Edited 2014-03-20 01:57:04]

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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:44 am

Quoting 77west (Reply 11):
The tail of the 777 is composite not metal.

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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:49 am

Quoting Ogre727 (Reply 25):

they're just relaying what was said by the Australians that until confirmed it may or may not be related...

seems fairly logical to me.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:04 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 18):
For example, you know, a metal cruise liner

Quite a good example! And a famous liner demonstrated exactly what happens if said metal object loses this buoyancy effect.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:09 am

Quoting liquidair (Reply 24):

Or it could be a Submarine operating in the area?

Malaysian press conference again at 1730 KUL time. We'll see what they have to say about this new development.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:19 am

Quoting KIAS (Reply 16):
Not sure, but I believe it would take quite a while for debris to travel that distance. From what I understand, the current movement is somewhat circular for objects within a certain area, despite the general direction of the current.

Here is a good (rather in-depth) read about forecasting ocean drift and how it relates to SAR:

Thank you.

Quoting liquidair (Reply 17):
CCTV News tweets: #US P-8 has arrived in Indian Ocean area; US 7th Fleet spokesperson confirms they have located the debris identified by #Australia. #MH370

Did they go to the area the debris was located on the day the picture was taken or did they go to an an area they anticipated the debris to be in now, four days later?

Quoting liquidair (Reply 24):


CCTV News tweets: The pilot on US P-8: Radar hits seen not believed to be linked to objects identified by Australia.#Update #MH370


so... They've found different debris?

So, is that not it or do we not know for sure yet?
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:21 am

Quoting timothy31388 (Reply 30):
Quoting laxboeingman (Reply 31):

I'm equally as confused by both tweets...
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:29 am

Malaysian Press conference any minute now according to CNN and Twitter
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:30 am

Quoting monjonman (Reply 7):
Could the tail of the aircraft float?

I don't know if the tail of the A330 is made of the same material as the 777, but when AF447 crashed in the Atlantic Ocean the tail was floating.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:32 am

Today's press conference is starting now.

http://www.astroawani.com/videos/live

But I can't get decent bandwidth - I hope someone else can watch it and report.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:36 am

5+ SAR aircraft deployed, multiple P3's and 1 P8
C130 been tasked to drop buoys to assist with drift calculations.
1 civil ship responding to requests for help arriving on scene today
18 SAR vessels active in the southern corridor

Both corridors still getting equal attention - more SAR assest still being deployed on northern corridor

China are using 21 satellites to conduct surveys of its own country...

I agree with their method of not putting hopes up on this latest "debris" sighting by Australia. It is better that way. Rather cover that after the SAR assets have been on-scene and established what exactly it is...

[Edited 2014-03-20 02:41:05]
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:37 am

Nothing new.

He is just reading what is already posted on many news sites.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:37 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 18):
For example, you know, a metal cruise liner. 

Or even a concrete ship.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ushed-pieces-China-didnt-sink.html

Basically anything can float if you displace enough water to counter the weight of the object, this usually involves hollow, honeycomb, hull shapes. (Archimedes comes to mind)
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:41 am

US P-8 has finished search in suspected area and have found nothing. This is on CCTV twitter, according to ABC news.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:45 am

Quoting theaviator380 (Reply 39):

US P-8 has finished search in suspected area and have found nothing. This is on CCTV twitter, according to ABC news.

Is there a link to said ABC news report.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:51 am

Given the ocean current map posted in reply 1 of this thread, it seems like these debris would have had to originate hundreds of miles west of the location that the satellite photographed them in.

The coordinates the satellite photographed the debris at are 3600 miles from IGARI. If we assume a 2mph drift of the debris over 8 days, putting the origin ~ 400 miles west of the location they were photographed...that would give 3745 miles from IGARI.

Interestingly, thats VERY close to the miles that the FWF twitter guy has repeatedly mentioned (3675)....

[Edited 2014-03-20 02:53:01]
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:51 am

Quoting tomlee (Reply 40):

Nope, I picked it from CCTV twitter page. They haven't quoted link either.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:55 am

Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 36):
1 civil ship responding to requests for help arriving on scene today

It's a Norwegian ship that was originally going from South Africa towards Australia that has been redirected to the site.

The Höegh St. Petersburg

http://www.nrk.no/verden/norsk-skip-inn-i-flysok-1.11618149

The ship was asked to change course and head for the area in question by the Australian authorities 2 days ago ...

http://www.dagbladet.no/2014/03/20/n...er/utenriks/flymysteriet/32401061/
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:56 am

Quoting theaviator380 (Reply 39):
US P-8 has finished search in suspected area and have found nothing. This is on CCTV twitter, according to ABC news.

CNN just said Australia P-3's couldn't find the debris because of the rain and low visibility in the area.
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:56 am

Somebody posted a while back that the engine manufacturer had received a message from the aircraft of a normal landing. Has this been verified and if so could such a message have been sent if the aircraft landed/crashed in the ocean?

Rgds,

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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:57 am

We are all very happy about INMARSAT. We're able to considerably narrow down the search area thanks to that geostationary thing up there.

But do we have any theory that specifically explains why MH370 would end up SW or SSW of Australia? I hope this theory would be simpler than general relativity...


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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:58 am

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 43):

Thanks for the clarification!
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:59 am

Quoting dragon-wings (Reply 44):
CNN just said Australia P-3's couldn't find the debris because of the rain and low visibility in the area.

Well that is a lot different. Hopefully the weather can clear up enough for the search to work effectively.
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:02 am

Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 46):
But do we have any theory that specifically explains why MH370 would end up SW or SSW of Australia? I hope this theory would be simpler than general relativity...

It flying there is pretty simple compared to general relativity. Why it flew there is another story. (Something the black boxes or wreckage/debris could help with but we are not really at that point yet as they have to confirm the sat images first)
 
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RE: MH370 Malaysia Airlines B772 Missing Enroute KUL-PEK Part 39

Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:02 am

http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/satellite/

Looking at this, seems to be a bit of weather. Not the easiest conditions.

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Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:05 am

Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 46):

That's why I will be more pleased if they find CVR and FDR (Chances are bleak). Finding debris is ok, atleast it will confirm that plane has crashed but without CVR and FDR will be difficult to conclude what happened.

I still couldn't find that news which someone posted y'day, is it true pilot was involved in doing some depth search on Indian ocean?