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New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:09 pm

The new upstart is looking for 10 used aircraft to start initially as a charter operation.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...s-in-brand-revival.html?cmpid=yhoo
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:45 pm

With the way things are going with a certain SE Asian airline some 737-800's may come available.
 
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:59 am

I hope they do not go for the 25 year old metal, if you want to start a cool airline do what Virgin America did and get new ones
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:57 am

Quoting WROORD (Reply 2):

And how are those cool jets working out for their business and growth plan? It's better to go with the equipment that actually fits your network and helps you grow, not with what's "cool."

In any event, good luck to them. They seem overly and unrealistically optimistic about the Eastern brand in the article.

[Edited 2014-03-25 22:00:15]
 
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:46 am

Have they said if they plan to bring back the hockey stick livery or go with something fresh?
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:42 pm

I'm pretty sure there are some "Whisperjets" available in the desert.
 
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:59 pm

Perhaps there are shopping at the same store as PeoplEXPRESS. We have to see anything substantive from that start-up. As for the name, I look back nostalgically at the old Eastern Airlines and wish it never went away however time marches on and younger travelers have no connection with that name or its history.
 
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:06 pm

Quoting Wingtips56 (Reply 4):
Have they said if they plan to bring back the hockey stick livery or go with something fresh?

Their web site is full of old Eastern imagery and the New Aircraft link has a drawing of an A319 in very familiar colors.
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:13 pm

We used to fly Eastern every summer when I was a little kid from Philadelphia to Miami. One of my memories (this would be 1986 or 1987 or so) is playing hide-and-seek with my sister in a widebody but there weren't very many other passengers. I'm guessing this would have been an L-1011.

We also got to see the cockpit. This might have been a different flight but the captain gave each of us wings. I think my mother still has the wings somewhere, I'll have to ask her. Kids don't get to do that now!
 
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:53 pm

Quoting catiii (Reply 3):
In any event, good luck to them. They seem overly and unrealistically optimistic about the Eastern brand in the article.

They obviously don't remember - or are conveniently forgetting - the old WHEAL (We Hate Eastern Air Lines) club that was started by a couple of disgruntled PHL passengers in the 50's.

That being said, I grew up in the Boston area and flew Eastern dozens of times in my younger days and right up until the end in '91. Glad to hear they plan to keep the old Caribbean Blue/Ionosphere Blue hockey stick livery. Hope these guys can recreate some of that old magic.
 
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:53 pm

They can probably snag some A320ceo fairly cheap with the Neos coming online. But G4 may going after those same jets
 
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:55 pm

Quoting moose135 (Reply 7):
Their web site is full of old Eastern imagery

That was precisely my reaction. Like the re-incarnations of Pan Am, this upstart would have the flying public believe there is a direct linage all the way back to the days of Eddie Rickenbacker and Captain Dick Merrill. I wish them all the luck, but the only link between them is a logo and nostalgia.
 
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:16 pm

Wasn't there a model of the COMAC 919 painted in EA hockey stick colors?
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:18 pm

Yes there was indeed a C919 model painted in the EA colours. I seriously doubt though that the carrier would select this model. Appears from their website (easternairlines.aero) that they are trying to start with the Airbus 319. It appears that they are working with Airbus and Amadeus.
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:22 pm

"Eastern Air Lines was one of the "Big Four" airlines (along with United, Delta and American that dominated the passenger airline business in the United States for nearly 50 years. It started flying officially as Eastern from 1930 (after its predecessor company was founded in 1927) and operated until 1991, when it ceased operations during the first Gulf War."

What about PanAm and TWA? Or do they omit those because they were more international?
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:34 pm

Quoting wjcandee (Reply 5):
I'm pretty sure there are some "Whisperjets" available in the desert.

Or if they want to go really retro, perhaps they could buy the DC-9s DL recently retired. The old Eastern probably owned some of them.
 
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:55 pm

Quoting FlyingSicilian (Reply 14):

"Eastern Air Lines was one of the "Big Four" airlines (along with United, Delta and American that dominated the passenger airline business in the United States for nearly 50 years. It started flying officially as Eastern from 1930 (after its predecessor company was founded in 1927) and operated until 1991, when it ceased operations during the first Gulf War."

What about PanAm and TWA? Or do they omit those because they were more international?

The Big Four was actually UA, AA, EA, and WA Transworld Airlines (USA)">TW. DL (and CO) didn't join the ranks until the late 1980s when it became the Big Six, with DL joining thanks to the WA merger and CO joining because of the Lorenzo-era mashup of mergers. Shortly before EA collapsed, US (fresh from the PI merger growth) took EA's place on the Big Six totem pole.

PA was never a Big Four carrier as it was prohibited from flying domestic pax until the NA merger - and even then, PA had a token domestic presence.
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:28 pm

Quoting Rbgso (Reply 15):
The old Eastern probably owned some of them.

Indeed there was one retired in 2013 that bore the registration N401EA...
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:49 pm

Quoting WROORD (Reply 2):
if you want to start a cool airline do what Virgin America did and get new ones

Or be economical like Delta and shop around for some good priced used aircraft. As NW proved with their DC-9s, you can always refresh the interior of an aircraft. it seems smart to keep capital cost low with an upstart, especially one that will start out with a charter operation.
 
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:28 am

Quoting captainstefan (Reply 17):
Quoting Rbgso (Reply 15):
The old Eastern probably owned some of them.

Indeed there was one retired in 2013 that bore the registration N401EA...

But Eastern wasn't the original operator. That aircraft was originally delivered to Allegheny Airlines in 1975 as N920VJ. Sold to Eastern in 1978.
 
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:11 am

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 12):
COMAC 919

At $20m a piece, not hugely expensive, mind you. Same tooling as the MD-80.
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:25 am

Looking forward to seeing the EA colors flying outside my Miami apartment window later this year, regardless of whether it's Airbus or Boeing!  
 
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:39 am

Quoting Boeing778X (Reply 20):
At $20m a piece, not hugely expensive, mind you. Same tooling as the MD-80.

I believe you might be thinking of the ARJ21 - the 919 looks more like a 737/A320  
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:46 am

Quoting captainstefan (Reply 17):

A lot of the 30s (and 10s) that were retired were directly from Eastern.
 
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:57 pm

The article mentions that PA was once the largest airline in the US; I do not believe this to be true, however at one time, EA was the largest
 
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:52 pm

Quoting BAeRJ100 (Reply 22):

You know what, I knew that! Ugh!   
Thanks for the reminder.

Still, an American carrier ARJ21 order would be interesting  
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:59 pm

If they could buy a new engine for the DC-7B that is parked in Charlotte, maybe they could begin service with that one.      

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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:05 pm

Quoting L1011 (Reply 26):
If they could buy a new engine for the DC-7B that is parked in Charlotte, maybe they could begin service with that o

It does have legroom, galleys equipped to serve hot meals to all passengers, and a lounge. These factors will help EA differentiate themselves from the competition.
 
 
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:40 pm

Quoting shortstack81 (Reply 8):
the captain gave each of us wings. I think my mother still has the wings somewhere, I'll have to ask her. Kids don't get to do that now!

When a buddy of mine interviewed for a pilot job at Airtran, they asked him if he had any other questions. Yes, he apparently said. "Do you still give us wings to hand out to the kids?" The answer was "absolutely", and he got the job.
 
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:14 pm

Quoting bobnwa (Reply 24):
The article mentions that PA was once the largest airline in the US; I do not believe this to be true

Don't think that was ever the case. For many years UA was the largest airline in the "free world" (meaning, other than Aeroflot) in terms of passengers carried, and that was when UA was strictly domestic (except SEA-YVR).
 
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:39 pm

Quoting PMUA787 (Reply 1):
With the way things are going with a certain SE Asian airline some 737-800's may come available.

Somebody in the industry down here told me they are getting 4 737Ngs. Wonder if it will happen. There has been some buzz about them lately. Will be interesting to see what occurs in the next 6 months or so.
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RE: New Eastern Air Lines Shopping For Jets

Fri Mar 28, 2014 7:29 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 19):
But Eastern wasn't the original operator. That aircraft was originally delivered to Allegheny Airlines in 1975 as N920VJ. Sold to Eastern in 1978.

Didn't mention anything about the *original* owner. Just highlighting that it carried an EA registration all the way to the desert.
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