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United 747

Tue Nov 07, 2000 9:28 am

How do you think the luxuary is of the aircraft of United? (747)

RE: United 747

Tue Nov 07, 2000 9:34 am

I recently flew on Uniteds 747-200 from SFO-HNL-SFO and it was a very comfortable and nice plane (I sat in coach too)

It was very clean and the FA's were very nice. Both flights were on time and we arrived early to our destination on both as well.

The FA's and the pilots were very happy to give me a tour of the plane and cockpit too.

If you plan to fly on one, trust me, YOU'LL LOVE IT.


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RE: United 747

Tue Nov 07, 2000 10:12 am

I flew on UA954, SFO-LHR. I was in economy with a 10 abreast configuration. Obviously, you don't need me to tell you that it was tight. But, that's expected. So it wasn't luxury, but a lack thereof! I wouldn't recommend UA. But it was fun to be on a 744, but maybe of another airline!

RE: United 747

Tue Nov 07, 2000 12:33 pm

remember, UA isn't the only one w/10 abreast 747s....
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RE: United 747

Tue Nov 07, 2000 2:48 pm

...nor the only airline with 31" seat pitch in back...

First Class on the 747-200 is great. Seats are the standard 64" pitch (or so), which is actually VERY generous. I can almost fully recline in the seat [sleeping is very easy, and I'm not one to sleep on a plane]. On the 744, First is wonderful. The brand new seats recline almost flat, and have the same 64" pitch as the -200's do. PTV's with DVS9 (Distributed Video System-9 Channels) as well as an in-seat video player make the time go much quicker. Lumbar, noise-reduction headsets and great food make it even more perfect. The 747-400's equipped with the new United First Suite are heaven. That's all one can say. Stretching out and sleeping for three hours on a HNL-SFO flight (Dep 1300 Arr 2000 hrs.) was great, and the hot Mrs. Field's cookies and an icy-cold glass of milk before turndown service was a great touch. What happened with the other two hours of the flight? A great meal and movies galore! Sidenote for the UFS: It is a really akward feeling on takeoff and landing. The plane is going forward, but you are angled towards the side...VERY weird feeling!

Business is where I've flown the most on the 747-400 (Mainly First Class for me on the 747-200/-100). The new United Business seats are very comfortable, functional, and stylish. PTV's work well, seat pitch is fine...fairly easy to sleep in. If you are ever in Business, I suggest the window seats in the bulkhead row of Upper Deck-recline the seat all the way, and use the side storage bins as the rest of your "Business bed". With the correct amount of pillows supporting your back, the surface actually becomes flat (almost as good as the United First Suite).

United Economy is average. I flew in 'back' on a SFO-NRT leg just a few weeks ago. I wasn't expecting much in the way of comfort (as it IS Economy), but was pleasantly surprised at how rested I felt once I deplaned in Narita.

Lack of space all around you (especially to your sides)wasn't too fun, however, sleeping was no problem. Don't put anything under the seat infront of you, recline as far as possible, and stretch out. Just as good as a bed! (LOL!).

Meals were quite decent. All three were very filling on the way over.

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RE:Boeing 747-400

Tue Nov 07, 2000 3:14 pm

I think all airlines that operate the 747 have 10 abreast coach seating.
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RE: United 747

Tue Nov 07, 2000 4:39 pm

I flew United 747-400 in economy LAX-HKG, HKG-LAX this summer. It was pretty nice. I'm a college student trying to see the world and fly every airplane I can. It was my first time on a 747 ever. To me, even though it was 10 abreast seating, it wasn't that bad. Maybe because I had the whole 3 seats to myself, but I mainly just sat in my own personal seat. It was a nice flight, even in economy. However, we hit some severe turbulence off the east coast of Japan that had that
-400's wings flapping like a birds. I was amazed at how flexible they were. I bet those #1 and #4 engines were swaying in the wind. United's interiors are a little lacking however. The plane was immaculately clean, but it lacked the chicness of an AA777.
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RE: United 747

Wed Nov 08, 2000 6:34 am

I've flown on both the -200 and the -400. Both are very nice. I thought that the 747 in coach is cramped, compared to the 777 in coach. Maybe it was becuase I was next to a winey kid.

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RE: United 747

Wed Nov 08, 2000 6:41 am

I flew a United 747-200 from JFK to NRT in 1996. The flight was awful. The plane was visibly old and sported the old style Conoisseur Class seats with
a pull down screen for movies. Food was inedible and generally, the flight
was awful.

I returned in April 1997 on a UA 747-400 that was factory fresh. The main
flight attendant told me that it had been delivered two weeks prior. I was
on the Upper Deck, in the new United Business seats and it was very, very
enjoyable. A terrific trip.

I have heard that United's Boeing 747 fleet is much better than Northwest's.
I have never flown a NW 747 so I can't comment.

Overall, despite its troubles (blame it on what is arguably one of the worst
management teams to run an airline), UA is a good carrier with decent
service, a comprehensive route structure and a relatively efficient fleet. It
is a no-nonsense, low on frills carrier but they try their best. The 737-200's
and 727's have to go. The 757's, A319/A320, 763, 777, and 747-400 fleets
are really nice.


RE: Woody

Wed Nov 08, 2000 7:46 am

I never said anything about 10-a-breast seating on the 747.

Anyway, on almost all 747s, there is 10-a-breast.

3-4-3 is the normal seating for a 747 coach class
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RE: United 747

Wed Nov 08, 2000 12:10 pm


Once again, I must repeat this to put things into perspective:

UA has 44 747-400s (modern!) and less than 5 now 747-200s (gone by early December)

NW has 20+ passenger 747-200s and 14 747-400s.

UA has 30 more modern 747-400s as the vast majority of its 747 mainstay, and thus the conclusion that UA's 747-400s are more comfortable.

Also note that UA will soon have First Suites, its new interior, and PTV's for everyone in all their 747-400s.
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RE: United 747

Wed Nov 08, 2000 4:39 pm

I want to add, that the 3rd 747-400 now has Personal Video in the main cabin. The fourth one is at Oakland right now. It takes about two weeks, because they change all of the seats in coach, wire up the new seystems, and install those cute little boxes on the floor. Those planes are getting the new first/business class seats too.

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RE: United 747

Wed Nov 08, 2000 5:25 pm


Can you describe exactly what the new interiors are like? (I mean the most *precise* detail possible, down to every little nuance).

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