uprightNlocked
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Continental To LHR

Wed Nov 08, 2000 12:48 am

I saw a commercial yesterday advertising Continental's new flights to LHR.

1. When did they get this right?
2. Under the bi-lateral agreement, does a UK airline get LHR-USA rights? If so, which one?
 
aa737
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RE: Continental To LHR

Wed Nov 08, 2000 12:52 am

Are you sure the flight wasn't to LGW? AA and UA are the only american airlines allowed to serve LHR. VS and BA are the uk airlines that fly LHR-USA.
 
uprightNlocked
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RE: Continental To LHR

Wed Nov 08, 2000 1:02 am

Aa737-
That is what I thought. I am 100% positive that the advert was for new service to LHR.
 
ContinentalEWR
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RE: Continental To LHR

Wed Nov 08, 2000 1:05 am

No way. Continental serves LHR via its alliance with Virgin Atlantic. However, Virgin operates all flights into LHR. Continental flies to Gatwick from IAH,
CLE, and EWR.

Bermuda II has NOT been scrapped, so that's totally impossible. You must
have read the advert wrong.

 
747firstclass
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RE: Continental To LHR

Wed Nov 08, 2000 1:05 am

Sounds like it could be a codeshare with Virgin. If CO or any other airline got new slots into LHR from the US it would be banner headlines im sure.
 
TWFirst
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RE: Continental To LHR

Wed Nov 08, 2000 1:10 am

I don't know ContinentalEWR, I flew Continental last Sunday, and the route map in the Continental magazine sure looks like there's Continental-operated flights to Heathrow.

BTW, that was my first flight on Continental. I was VERY impressed. (737-500, on-time, great service).
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nickofatlanta
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RE: Continental To LHR

Wed Nov 08, 2000 1:14 am

Are you sure the advert was not for CO's new service to London's Stansted airport from EWR?

CO definitely has not announced new service to LHR on its own planes. UA and AA remain the only US airlines permitted to fly into LHR with their own equipment.
 
aa737
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RE: Continental To LHR

Wed Nov 08, 2000 1:17 am

I forgot about the VS codeshare to LHR. That is probably what you read. I know people that have booked a VS ticket and ended up on a CO planes into London, they don't make it clear that the flight is actually a code-share.

The only way CO could ever serve LHR with their own planes is if Bermuda II (i think that's what it is called) is modified to allow British Midland and either CO or DL to serve USA from LHR.
 
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RE: Continental To LHR

Wed Nov 08, 2000 1:23 am

I could have sworn that both Delta and Continental won limited access to LHR and that it was reported at least six months ago. I remember being surprised at the time that a big deal was not made about the news here in this forum. While I know very few details and am too lazy to go and look up a real source, this kind of suggests that my memory is somewhat intact.
 
ContinentalEWR
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RE: Continental To LHR

Wed Nov 08, 2000 1:44 am

Heathrow IS on CO's route map because it buys seats on Virgin flights. CO aircraft DO NOT land at LHR. Neither DL nor CO have won the rights to fly
to LHR. The issue has not been settled yet and is far from resolved.

 
nickofatlanta
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RE: Continental To LHR

Wed Nov 08, 2000 1:57 am

There was speculation earlier this year that an agreement had been reached for CO and DL to serve LHR with their own planes in exchange for BD having the same privilege. It hasn't happened yet.
 
redraider
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RE: Continental To LHR

Wed Nov 08, 2000 2:21 am

Maybe they will just fly there anyway, bilaterals be damned!

What would happen if a "rogue" airline sold seats and flew to an airport it wasn't authorized to fly to? What would happen?
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TWFirst
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RE: ContinentalEWR

Wed Nov 08, 2000 3:08 am

Yes my friend, I do know how to read a route map. My point is that based on the map legend, the color of the line to LHR indicates it is a Continental-operated flight, not a code share. I'm not saying this is correct, just relaying my observation.
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RE: Continental To LHR

Wed Nov 08, 2000 4:49 am

Having just read that same CO route map over the weekend, I will state that you are mistaken and that the LHR service is by VS, with LGW and STN by CO.
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