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NW 757 Emergency Landing?

Wed Nov 22, 2000 2:06 am

Lot's been written about the American A300 that made the emergency landing in Miami, but just shortly after I first saw the news on TV, there was another report of a Northwest 757 making an emergency landing somewhere- can't remember- because there was something wrong with the wing.
Does any one have any more information on this one?
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RE: NW 757 Emergency Landing?

Wed Nov 22, 2000 2:14 am

Airplane with hole in wing returns to Minneapolis
David Chanen
Star Tribune
Tuesday, November 21, 2000

A Northwest Airlines flight bound for Portland, Ore., returned to Minneapolis on Monday morning after a passenger or a member of the flight crew noticed a 1-foot-diameter hole in the airplane's left wing.

Airline spokesman Jon Austin said Flight 375, which was carrying 179 passengers and seven crew members, made a normal landing at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport about 10 a.m. The 757 had been in the air for about a half-hour after leaving Minneapolis before somebody noticed the hole on the leading edge of the wing, he said.

Although a hole that size is unusual, the pilot didn't report any change in the plane's handling or performance, Austin said. Nobody was injured and passengers were put on another plane for the trip, he said.

"The hole was caused by some sort of mechanical process, not something chemical or corrosive or by explosion or fire," he said. "Something probably hit the plane and damaged it."

Patrick Hogan, spokesman for the Metropolitan Airports Commission, said the pilot didn't radio for an emergency landing, but "needed to land here because of a problem." He also said that a hole that size was unusual.

Austin said he didn't believe the passengers were told specifically why they were returning to Minneapolis, "but it was common knowledge because the hole was visible from the cabin.

"I'm sure it was upsetting for them to see it," he said. "If we have holes, they're usually more of a puncture."

Austin said Northwest will investigate, and the Federal Aviation Administration might look at the hole. He said he doesn't know if the damage meets the National Transportation Safety Board's criteria for investigation.

"I've heard of holes in aircraft, but never under this exact set of circumstances," Austin said.
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RE: NW 757 Emergency Landing?

Wed Nov 22, 2000 2:20 am

Twilight Zone, going for real: there is something, some-thing, 1 foot diameter hole in the wing, but the aircraft keeps flying normally.

I can only imagine thoughts that were going thru passangers minds!      
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RE: NW 757 Emergency Landing?

Wed Nov 22, 2000 3:09 am

I can't speak for NW, but many airlines require one of the pilots to do a routine, if not age-old walk-around to visually inspect the aircraft before passengers board.

Assuming the damage was sustained prior to the pilots being on board, (I am sure they would have noticed otherwise) they may have spotted the damage before take off.
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RE: NW 757 Emergency Landing?

Wed Nov 22, 2000 3:15 am

A NW D10 also diverted to GLA today. I'll post more later. Wonder if that counts as three now or if they need another NW one?
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RE: NW 757 Emergency Landing?

Wed Nov 22, 2000 4:32 am

I just wonder how all this mis-information can come around on both the NW 757 and the AA A300.
It is so obvious that the NW 757 suffered a bird strike. 757s normally don't fall apart by themselves in the air. And at least the crew knew immediately what had happened - such a strike creates a loud bang.
But a goose or whatever is something the plane was built to manage. An ostrich in each engine will be difficult to deal with, but otherwise bird strikes, which are quite common, only means an expensive repair bill for the airline company. There was never any danger.

And the AA A300 - F/A "sucked" out of non-decompressed cabin. Who creates such nonsense? It was a tragic accident, a F/A stumbles, falls out on the tarmac during an evacuation following a false fire warning on a 20 years old GE engine. That sort of accidents are rare, but they happen in all sorts of workshops, that's nothing special for the airline industry.
But nobody in the airline industry can possibly have forwarded the information "sucked out of non-decompressed cabin". A hundred people - passengers, crew and fire brigade - saw exactly what happened while it happened.

Are news agencies really competing in delivering the most incorrect information?
Best regards, Preben Norholm
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Wed Nov 22, 2000 4:54 am

Even tho the NWA pilots did visual checks before leaving the gate, the pilots might not be able to see the hole if the hole was on the top side of the wing. If they saw the hole, do you think they would still fly the plane? Keep in mind that the pilots are on the plane too when it's flying!!

Also, a strike by bird can be fatal to an a/c in the air. A strike by birds can cause engine failure and loss of control if the flaps are hit. Although birds hitting flaps rarely happens.

Regards  ,
R Panda


Wed Nov 22, 2000 6:58 am

the oldest American A300 is 12 years old, so I doubt if the engines are 20 years old.

just thought I'd play devil's advocate since you were talking about misinformation.

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RE: FFMilesJunkey

Wed Nov 22, 2000 7:41 am

Thanks FFMilesJ, for correcting age of the AA A300s. I am always mixing up the US airline companies. Southwest, Northwest, American, United, and those who are not so united (merged) yet.
My memory told me that AA was the very first A300B customer, but now I don't know, and in any case they are all gone by now, probably to cargo conversion.
You are right identifying that I hate misinformation, so it is quite embarrassing that I contribute to that. Tnx for bringing me back on the track.
Cheers, Preben Norholm
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RE: NW 757 Emergency Landing?

Wed Nov 22, 2000 8:05 am


I'm afraid that in the AA A300's case the quote came from an uninformed police spokeswoman:

``Before he had a chance to depressurize the cabin, one of the crew members tried to open the door and the crew member was literally sucked out of the plane,'' Miami-Dade Police spokeswoman Nelda Fonticella said.


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RE: NW 757 Emergency Landing?

Wed Nov 22, 2000 9:10 am

I heard there was a hole in the wing.