hkgspotter1
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Engine Strike, Fire And Go Around!

Wed Nov 22, 2000 6:20 pm

Well it took me three and a half years but I've got my two most famous pics on Airliners.net  


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Photo © Daryl Chapman




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Photo © Daryl Chapman




 
n949wp
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RE: Engine Strike, Fire And Go Around!

Wed Nov 22, 2000 7:01 pm

 
 
gkirk
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RE: Engine Strike, Fire And Go Around!

Wed Nov 22, 2000 7:24 pm

Bet you got just a little worried when you took those photos.
When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
 
hkgspotter1
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RE: Engine Strike, Fire And Go Around!

Wed Nov 22, 2000 7:28 pm

Thanks 949, When are you going to CLK again ???

Gkirk, Well not worried but interested !!. You got to see these kind of landings at Kai Tak every few months (without the engine strike). I have others but I have no idea of the dates. I may post them later.

Thanks
 
Thom@s
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RE: Engine Strike, Fire And Go Around!

Wed Nov 22, 2000 7:28 pm

Exellent picture. Just wondering, did you try to upload the picture as soon as you could, or did you work on it to make the quality better?

Again, a really good pic.

Regards
Thom@s
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hkgspotter1
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RE: Engine Strike, Fire And Go Around!

Wed Nov 22, 2000 7:35 pm

My friend that scanned it for me just made it a little lighter as it was taken on a rather overcast day. No major reworking !!

This photo (top) mad the front page of the Hong Kong Standard the day after.
 
gkirk
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RE: Engine Strike, Fire And Go Around!

Wed Nov 22, 2000 7:37 pm

Well, the reason i mentioned worried was that, its not everyday you see an engine strike, and there was a possibility of a crash.
When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
 
hkgspotter1
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RE: Engine Strike, Fire And Go Around!

Wed Nov 22, 2000 7:39 pm

I'm sure N949WP can tell you that some of the things we've seen at Kai Tak could scare the *%&# out of you !!!
 
zanadou
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RE: Engine Strike, Fire And Go Around!

Wed Nov 22, 2000 9:40 pm

Hkgspotter1,

Are you "Daryl Chapman" ? I hope you are or somebody ripped your photo's off:

http://www.aviationpics.de/app/app.htm

--->Zanadou!  

(Who is finding it rather interesting these days to crosspoliate info from PPuRuNe, Airliners.net fourums and aus.aviation.)
 
hkgspotter1
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RE: Engine Strike, Fire And Go Around!

Wed Nov 22, 2000 11:11 pm

Yes, thats me !!

I still get about two e-mails per month asking about the pics on aviationpics.de

Daryl
 
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RE: Engine Strike, Fire And Go Around!

Wed Nov 22, 2000 11:49 pm

I just wallpapered the top photo, nice job. 
You're only as good as your last departure.
 
flybulldog
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RE: Engine Strike, Fire And Go Around!

Wed Nov 22, 2000 11:57 pm

What happend to the plane? Why did the engine hit the runway? Seems hard to imagine that this sort of a thing was common.
 
hkgspotter1
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RE: Engine Strike, Fire And Go Around!

Thu Nov 23, 2000 1:12 pm

Flybulldog,

Bad approach !!, Thats what could happen to you at Kai Tak. The aircraft spent three days in HKG while they changed the pylon and engine.
 
Greeneyes53787
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RE: Why Abort?

Thu Nov 23, 2000 1:44 pm

Wasn't there enough runway left to complete the landing?

Is this the runway so famous for terrible crosswinds for landing?

G
 
n949wp
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RE: Engine Strike, Fire And Go Around!

Thu Nov 23, 2000 3:29 pm

I was also there that day when it happened. Basically, there was a rather strong crosswind blowing on that particular day.

As the aircraft made the final 47 degree right turn to line up with rwy. 13, it veered significantly to the left of the normal approach path. As the pilot tried to correct his heading, he overdid it and swung WAAAAAAY to the right of the runway centerline (note that the aircraft was already over the runway by now). The jumbo then went into a rather steep left bank with a slightly nose-down attitude as the pilot tried to re-correct his heading and to kill off excess altitude. The aircraft lost altitude rather quickly, and before the wings could be leveled, the No. 1 engine had struck the runway surface (look closely at the top picture -- the left ailerons were all the way down while the right ailerons and spoilers were fully up). The plane then bounced right back into the air and sort-of drifted down the runway at an altitude of approx. 40-50 feet for a couple more seconds before it finally did a go-around. By now, flames can be seen coming out of engine no. 1.

Over the radio, the pilot announced that the damaged engine had to be shut down. About 20 minutes after the first failed attempt, the plane returned for its second try. Believe it or not, it practically repeated its moves from the first attempt, but thankfully this time, it touchdown without slamming another engine on the runway or worse.

Another classic case of failing to do a go-around when one should have!! I heard a rumor that the pilot either got demoted or sacked after this little episode.

'949
 
hkgspotter1
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RE: Engine Strike, Fire And Go Around!

Fri Nov 24, 2000 1:41 am

'949,

That was even better than I remember !!!

Thanks.
 
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RE: Engine Strike, Fire And Go Around!

Fri Nov 24, 2000 3:01 am

OK, so now I am wondering which of you if any I've seen in person - great photos btw Hkgspotter! I lived in HK for 22 years, and used to go to the airport regularly - I wasn't a plane spotter per se, just loved watching them take off and land... Wish I'd seen your photo in the Standard at the time, but I was an SCMP man myself.  

Cheers

---
Mike
 
Red Panda
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RE: Hkgspotter1

Fri Nov 24, 2000 3:16 am

what a damn nice photo you have taken!!!! Two thumbs up for your excellent work! Do you mind I ask you a question? which part of HongKong do you live ? somewhere near the airport?

Best Regards  ,
R Panda
 
hkgspotter1
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RE: Engine Strike, Fire And Go Around!

Fri Nov 24, 2000 6:44 pm

HKDragon2,

I also like the SCMP much better then the imail (new name of Hong Kong Standard) The problem was I called the SCMP but no one picked up the phone !!!

Red Panda,

I'm in Tin Wan, Aberdeen. Thats not anywhere near the airport !!!
 
Thom@s
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RE: Engine Strike, Fire And Go Around!

Fri Nov 24, 2000 10:38 pm

I suppose your username Hgkspotter1 means you are the Hongkong spotter nr.1. This pic certanly prooves it in my mind.  

Regards
Thom@s  
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galaxy5
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Sick Bastards

Fri Nov 24, 2000 10:46 pm

you guys are some sick bastards if you think its great to take a picture of a plane in hopes it will be damaged or worse yet crash and kill some people. get a life man!!!
"damn, I didnt know prince could Ball like that" - Charlie Murphy
 
Thom@s
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RE: Galaxy5

Fri Nov 24, 2000 10:51 pm

WHAT!!

Who ever said we wanted to see someone get killed? I know I certainly don't. Hkgspotter1 just happened to be there as it happened. And I doubt it he is taking pictures because he wants to get a pic of a plane chrashing. So don't you come here accusing us of alot of BS.

Thom@s  
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n949wp
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Galaxy5, Those Are Your Own Words!

Sat Nov 25, 2000 12:29 am

Galaxy5,

Did anyone mentioned anything about wanting to see a crash? Did anyone said anything about wanting to see someone getting hurt or killed? Does being at the right place at the right time and just happened to capture the incident on film makes anyone a sick bastard? Nobody mentioned anything like that except you yourself. Now who is the REAL sicko in need of a life??    

The publishing of these pictures just might contribute to aviation safety, as it serves as a reminder to pilots and wannabes about what could happen if one forces a landing from a screwed-up approach.

'949
 
Red Panda
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RE: Galaxy5

Sat Nov 25, 2000 3:37 am

Exactly, no one want to see a crash or pax die here. It's just that you think so. Spotting pics like these doesn't make a spotter a bastards.
 
 
 

Regards,
R Panda