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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:50 pm

Any more pictures and perhaps the registration of the first 737-9MAX?
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Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:22 pm

First Boeing 737-9 nearing completion

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:01 pm

The MAX assembly line (on the right) shows that another 2 aircraft are undergoing final assembly.

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:42 am

The first test aircraft got a new rudder installed.

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:06 pm

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The first test aircraft got a new rudder installed.


Or the same rudder, just repainted/balanced. Generally rudders aren't painted while on the airplane.
 
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:08 am

Looks like a Southwest rudder, no?
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Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:06 am

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Looks like a Southwest rudder, no?


Sure looks like it. I think we're getting some or all of the test aircraft.

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Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:00 am

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:20 pm

Are there any B737-8 MAXs ready for delivery yet?
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:21 pm

Not yet, the MAX isn't certified yet.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:28 pm

Looks like final assembly is almost complete;

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:35 pm

barney captain wrote:
Aircellist wrote:
Looks like a Southwest rudder, no?


Sure looks like it. I think we're getting some or all of the test aircraft.

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:56 am

A Batik Air Malaysia 737-8 Max has been spotted at RNT in full livery:
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Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:04 pm

Have any of the Norwegian 737 Max's been spotted yet?
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:07 pm

Not yet.
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Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:13 pm

Which is rather odd since they seem to be the first operator, I guess some of their aircraft will be pulled ahead of the others in storage.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:15 pm

For those interested here are some recent findings from a very good blog that's tracking Boeing activity

Second MAX 9 is LN 6308

After Southwest and Lion Air/Batik Air the next customer in line is
Flydubai LN 6326 followed by :
Lion Air : LN 6344
Norwegian : LN 6360
Norwegian : LN 6372
Westjet : LN 6384
Norwegian : LN 6396

and it seems that China Eastern Airlines first MAX is LN 6465

Link to blog : http://tykesaeroblog.blogspot.com/

Info is also available on my spreadsheet : "Boeing test flights per day" after permission from the owner
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:18 pm

boefan wrote:
Second MAX 9 is LN 6308


Interesting, ATDB claims this one is a MAX 9 for Lion Air.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:19 pm

Production list here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... li=1#gid=6

Includes line number for upcoming MAX aircraft.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:21 pm

Boeing latest 737 delivery was LN 6294. So we should be seeing Norwegian's first 737 MAX (LN 6360) pretty soon.
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Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:25 pm

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boefan wrote:
Second MAX 9 is LN 6308


Interesting, ATDB claims this one is a MAX 9 for Lion Air.

Could be heading there after flight test, just like the MAX 8s
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:48 pm

817Dreamliiner wrote:
Production list here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... li=1#gid=6

Includes line number for upcoming MAX aircraft.


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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:19 pm

When is certification for the MAX 8 happening? Gotta be any day now?
 
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Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:06 am

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When is certification for the MAX 8 happening? Gotta be any day now?


Should be.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:57 am

I believe Boeing still needs to perform several test flights. The first production frames will be flying soon.
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Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:05 pm

Are there going to be rotation angle differences between the 739 and the MAX9? If so, how much of a difference?
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:56 pm

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Are there going to be rotation angle differences between the 739 and the MAX9? If so, how much of a difference?


Should be basically the same, maybe an ever so slight gain from the 8in nose gear increase but don't expect anything different
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:31 pm

LA704 wrote:
Are there going to be rotation angle differences between the 739 and the MAX9? If so, how much of a difference?


Same fuselage, same MLG, ergo same rotation angle.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:37 pm

The first MAX 9 emerged from final assembly and went into paint.

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Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:34 am

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LA704 wrote:
Are there going to be rotation angle differences between the 739 and the MAX9? If so, how much of a difference?


Same fuselage, same MLG, ergo same rotation angle.
But isn't the landing gear, to compensate for the engine size, a few inches longer, causing the fuselage to be more elevated than all 737s before the MAX?
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:32 am

LTU932 wrote:
mjoelnir wrote:
LA704 wrote:
Are there going to be rotation angle differences between the 739 and the MAX9? If so, how much of a difference?

Same fuselage, same MLG, ergo same rotation angle.


But isn't the landing gear, to compensate for the engine size, a few inches longer, causing the fuselage to be more elevated than all 737s before the MAX?


The nose gear has been re-positioned, but the main gear has not.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:08 pm

Hi all,

Two of the Max's are due to fly this week. Southwest's 8705 was planned to fly today and one of the Malindo's on Friday, however looking at the weather I think Southwest flight will be postponed. Woody says the Malindo frame should l/n 5948.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:49 pm

boefan wrote:
For those interested here are some recent findings from a very good blog that's tracking Boeing activity

Second MAX 9 is LN 6308

After Southwest and Lion Air/Batik Air the next customer in line is
Flydubai LN 6326 followed by :
Lion Air : LN 6344
Norwegian : LN 6360
Norwegian : LN 6372
Westjet : LN 6384
Norwegian : LN 6396

and it seems that China Eastern Airlines first MAX is LN 6465

Link to blog : http://tykesaeroblog.blogspot.com/

Info is also available on my spreadsheet : "Boeing test flights per day" after permission from the owner


BoeFan, thanks for the link to my site. I saw the traffic come from this thread link which prompted me to create a user account here. :thumbsup:

I would like to point out that Woody (Chris Edwards) was the source of most of those frames above so due credit to him as well. We share info with each other as I generally have good intel on the upcoming production 737NGs and he has good coverage of the upcoming heavies so I nick his 767s and 777s and he nicks my 737s :mrgreen: . If it's not listed on either mine or his site then it's safe to say it's not yet known and the reason for making the production lists available was to cut down on emails asking "what frame is this, when does x airline get their first x?" questions. Woody now has a blog himself and it can be found here - https://painefield.blogspot.com. :thumbsup:

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:50 am

AeroTyke wrote:
boefan wrote:
For those interested here are some recent findings from a very good blog that's tracking Boeing activity

Second MAX 9 is LN 6308

After Southwest and Lion Air/Batik Air the next customer in line is
Flydubai LN 6326 followed by :
Lion Air : LN 6344
Norwegian : LN 6360
Norwegian : LN 6372
Westjet : LN 6384
Norwegian : LN 6396

and it seems that China Eastern Airlines first MAX is LN 6465

Link to blog : http://tykesaeroblog.blogspot.com/

Info is also available on my spreadsheet : "Boeing test flights per day" after permission from the owner


BoeFan, thanks for the link to my site. I saw the traffic come from this thread link which prompted me to create a user account here. :thumbsup:

I would like to point out that Woody (Chris Edwards) was the source of most of those frames above so due credit to him as well. We share info with each other as I generally have good intel on the upcoming production 737NGs and he has good coverage of the upcoming heavies so I nick his 767s and 777s and he nicks my 737s :mrgreen: . If it's not listed on either mine or his site then it's safe to say it's not yet known and the reason for making the production lists available was to cut down on emails asking "what frame is this, when does x airline get their first x?" questions. Woody now has a blog himself and it can be found here - https://painefield.blogspot.com. :thumbsup:

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Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:23 pm

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Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:38 pm

Does anyone have a list of where leasing company owned frames are being allocated?
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Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 11):
I hear 'ya. I wish Boeing would have made it a bit wider to match the A320. Still a damn good looking aircraft though.

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I don't think a new fuselage width could be grandfathered into the 737 type certificate. It would have also added weight which is an advantage the 737 has over the A320. It would have been nice if Boeing had thinned the walls on the 737Max the way they thinned the walls of the 777X.
 
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It would have been nice if Boeing had thinned the walls on the 737Max the way they thinned the walls of the 777X.

Is that something that could be done as a block point upgrade, or would it need more extensive flight testing?

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Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:39 am

VirginFlyer wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:
It would have been nice if Boeing had thinned the walls on the 737Max the way they thinned the walls of the 777X.


Is that something that could be done as a block point upgrade, or would it need more extensive flight testing?

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There must not be any benefit to Boeing. It would force changes to almost all the interior fittings. It would have made the whole Max program more expensive.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:42 pm

Today the first MAX 9 testbed was presented to the world:

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Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:52 pm

flyingclrs727 wrote:
VirginFlyer wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:
It would have been nice if Boeing had thinned the walls on the 737Max the way they thinned the walls of the 777X.


Is that something that could be done as a block point upgrade, or would it need more extensive flight testing?

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There must not be any benefit to Boeing. It would force changes to almost all the interior fittings. It would have made the whole Max program more expensive.


In addition to structures such as ribbings, wiring etc!
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:54 pm

I'm starting to wonder if the sun ever comes out here, and I've lived here in Seattle my whole life. I'm sure it will be possible someday to get a picture of rollout or first flight that isn't drenched in moisture, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:57 pm

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I'm starting to wonder if the sun ever comes out here, and I've lived here in Seattle my whole life. I'm sure it will be possible someday to get a picture of rollout or first flight that isn't drenched in moisture, but I'm not holding my breath.

The weather was nice in CHS for the 787-10 rollout, maybe Boeing should make some more planes there... :duck:
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:35 pm

Although no thanks to the weather, but I think those pics would have still looked dreary and unexciting even if the sun had been out. I don't think it helps that it's in the exact same scheme as the 737-8 and if you blink you could quiet easily miss that it's a different model. Much hoopla over nothing imho. As the kids like to say : "meh".
 
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Although no thanks to the weather, but I think those pics would have still looked dreary and unexciting even if the sun had been out. I don't think it helps that it's in the exact same scheme as the 737-8 and if you blink you could quiet easily miss that it's a different model. Much hoopla over nothing imho. As the kids like to say : "meh".

I dunno about that, pretty sure its a new plane, so for me that is reason enough for some excitement.
 
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Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:33 am

airnorth wrote:
AeroTyke wrote:
Although no thanks to the weather, but I think those pics would have still looked dreary and unexciting even if the sun had been out. I don't think it helps that it's in the exact same scheme as the 737-8 and if you blink you could quiet easily miss that it's a different model. Much hoopla over nothing imho. As the kids like to say : "meh".

I dunno about that, pretty sure its a new plane, so for me that is reason enough for some excitement.


It's not enough to have meteorological rain around here, we've also got to have the other kind as well apparently. :-)
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Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:13 pm

737 MAX 8 certification update from Boeing, held final meetings yesterday and certification should be imminent.

https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/ ... 9487684610
 
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Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:10 pm

AeroTyke wrote:
I don't think it helps that it's in the exact same scheme as the 737-8 and if you blink you could quiet easily miss that it's a different model. Much hoopla over nothing imho. As the kids like to say : "meh".

And I thought it's just me... I am actually quite good in identifying different aircraft versions, my relatives or colleagues always ask "how can you even identify the version of that aircraft when I can barely say it's a helicopter or an aircraft..." but I really have problems to see the difference between a MAX -8 and a MAX -9...
 
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Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:12 am

N14AZ wrote:
AeroTyke wrote:
I don't think it helps that it's in the exact same scheme as the 737-8 and if you blink you could quiet easily miss that it's a different model. Much hoopla over nothing imho. As the kids like to say : "meh".

And I thought it's just me... I am actually quite good in identifying different aircraft versions, my relatives or colleagues always ask "how can you even identify the version of that aircraft when I can barely say it's a helicopter or an aircraft..." but I really have problems to see the difference between a MAX -8 and a MAX -9...


They aren't nearly as distinct in appearance as, for example, the A320 v A321. I struggle frankly to quickly identify a 737NG regardless of model, but I'm out of practice.
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Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:42 am

Work continues on one of the Lion Air Group production frames.

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