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New Mexico ONE Makes Emergency Landing

Fri Dec 01, 2000 10:42 am

Southwest Airlines Newest Aircraft N781WN Made an emergency landing in Albany on 10/15/2000. It is reported that during takeoff at N1 98% The Aircraft suffered Several Bird Strikes and Several Birds were Ingested into the Core of the #1 Engine and some hit the #2 Engine. The Number 1 Engine Vibration Gauge read out was 3.0. At FL 240 it read 4.0. While approaching ALB, There was a Smell reported in the Cabin. Thrust Lever was Reduced to keep the Vibration Level below 4.0.
Maintenance Performed a BIRD STRIKE Inspection and #1 and 2 Engine showed evidence of Core Ingestion. Removed and Replaced #1 Engine Fan Blade Set. Amended SDR 2028. #2 Engine was Also Borescoped and No Damage was Noted. #1 engine had a 10 cycle Flyback when inspected.

Brand New Aircraft. It is a shame that this happened. But it was Not The Best Airline in the world's Fault. It was just Birds in the Area. They did a Good Job Getting this Aircraft back in service 

GOOD JOB SOUTHWEST  
 
Matt D
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RE: New Mexico ONE Makes Emergency Landing

Fri Dec 01, 2000 11:35 am

So what are they serving? Roast duck? Goose?
 
redngold
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RE: New Mexico ONE Makes Emergency Landing

Fri Dec 01, 2000 11:43 am

What was New Mexico One doing in New York? C'mon, there are no birds in the desert, so whaddaya expect? (OK, I'm a little tired, so y'all might not understand my logic.)

I hope they can repair the a/c and get it back into service. I think it's beautiful.

redngold
Up, up and away!
 
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RE: New Mexico ONE Makes Emergency Landing

Fri Dec 01, 2000 12:40 pm

MATT D, I prefer the Fried Chicken with the Special JetFuel Sauce Included  

The Aircraft is already in service again. They did a Great Job getting it back in service so fast. For More information go to

http://av-info.faa.gov/isdr

Click on QUERY SDR

and in the REGISTRATION NUMBER FIELD Type

781WN (Do not type N) Just 781WN. and click on the only option there is   Good Luck
 
Tom in NO
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RE: New Mexico ONE Makes Emergency Landing

Fri Dec 01, 2000 1:21 pm

With the aircraft being delivered to Southwest on August 30, and entering service on September 18, it only had 280 hours total time, and 170 cycles on it at the time of the birdstrike.

Tom in NO (at MSY)

P.S. I'm still waiting with camera ready for it to show up during the daytime at MSY.
"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
 
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RE: New Mexico ONE Makes Emergency Landing

Fri Dec 01, 2000 1:49 pm

I bet those birds had very painless deaths. I mean, it takes way less than a second if you're a bird sucked into an engine. Still, that would suck.

Anyway, this is sad, poor new plane.  

 
 
D L X
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RE: New Mexico ONE Makes Emergency Landing

Fri Dec 01, 2000 6:22 pm

"Still, that would suck." Right before it blows.
 
sdate747
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RE: New Mexico ONE Makes Emergency Landing

Fri Dec 01, 2000 6:54 pm

Only thing I have seen on Southwest airlines is peanuts and soft drinks. Nevertheless, it is great for short hops
 
chiawei
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RE: New Mexico ONE Makes Emergency Landing

Sat Dec 02, 2000 4:20 am

I am wondering why the pilot elected to contiue to fly.

The flight reached FL240.

Since the fan blade set for engine #1 was replaced. It would be a lot safer for the pilot to immediate turn back.

Reaching FL240 with a bad engnine is not what the so called best airline should do.

I am shocked the airline would allow such irresponsible act. Safety should be the first priority.
 
CactusA319
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Southwest Should Be Scrutinized!

Sat Dec 02, 2000 4:46 am


Oh the horror!

A Southwest plane plows through a flock of birds and continues to climb to FL240. Oh the Irresponsibility! The carnage! The FAA should scrutinize SWA more. They are simply unsafe! Are we going to allow them to just keep hitting birds left and right???? No! This must be stopped!

LMAO

 
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RE: New Mexico ONE Makes Emergency Landing

Sat Dec 02, 2000 4:52 am

This just shows how tough those engines are. They can chew up a few squabs and keep on cranking. Pretty impressive.
Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
 
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CactusA319

Sat Dec 02, 2000 6:49 am

Hey!!!.   I am sure the pilot was doing what he was told to do by the control Tower. What?, You just expect him to say "Oh, I've been hit by birds, Lets turn around." I am sure Tower Instructed them to fly for a little while and check what systems they had or ETC. Don't Insult Southwest. They are a GREAT Airline.   You, CactusA319 should be thrown off of an A319 and sucked into the engine. See how it feels  

GO SOUTHWEST  
 
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RE: CactusA319

Sat Dec 02, 2000 7:24 am

Topic: CactusA319

>Username: Critter592
Posted 12-01-00 22:49 and read 4 times.
Hey!!!. I am sure the pilot was doing what he was told to do by the control Tower. What?, You just expect him to say "Oh, I've been hit by birds, Lets turn around." I am sure Tower Instructed them to fly for a little while and check what systems they had or ETC. Don't Insult Southwest. They are a GREAT Airline. You, CactusA319 should be thrown off of an A319 and sucked into the engine. See how it feels
GO SOUTHWEST <


This is by far the funniest thing i have read so far in this forum.

The pilot has the final say on whether or not to continue flying when bird strike happens. The ATC would only provide instruction on returning to the airport if the pilot choose to do so. In fact in this case the plane would actually be prioritized for landing due to engine surging.

the fact that the pilot elected to continue to climb to FL240 is clearly an irresponsible act that put passenger at risk.

The fan section was damaged, it might resulted in the complete puncture of the engine cowling like United DC-10 suffered at Sioux City.

Southwest, IMHO put business profit over passenger safety in this case.


 
Critter_592
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RE: New Mexico ONE Makes Emergency Landing

Sat Dec 02, 2000 8:16 am

Where did the flight originate from? A bird strike, hmmmmm do pilots usually turn back for a bird strike? Also, what is the normal vibartion level for that particular 737?
 
chiawei
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RE: New Mexico ONE Makes Emergency Landing

Sat Dec 02, 2000 8:27 am

I personally has been on two bird strike (both on NW). And in both cases, my flight returned to the airport.

One was at TPE the other was at Detroit. Both time my flight was delayed so they can make necessary checks and repairs.

Again, I just find that Southwest would allow the flight to continue appalling. Bird Strike should not be taken lightly especially at such high power setting.
 
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RE: New Mexico ONE Makes Emergency Landing

Sat Dec 02, 2000 8:32 am

This proves one more time that machine is a machine.
 
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CactusA319

Sat Dec 02, 2000 8:41 am

WN is a LOT BETTER than America WORST. They have had NO CRASH, their planes are all safe, friendly crews, very outgoing indeed. I asked for a tour of their 732 and 733 in MSY, and they were nice and brought me down. Very laid back indeed. I saw a discusting, I mean filthy AWA A320 in MSY, and I did not even bother to tour that flying junk.

Take SWA!  
 
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RE: CactusA319

Sat Dec 02, 2000 8:47 am

>Username: Co LITE
Posted 12-02-00 00:41 and read 3 times.
WN is a LOT BETTER than America WORST. They have had NO CRASH, their planes are all safe, friendly crews, very outgoing indeed. I asked for a tour of their 732 and 733 in MSY, and they were nice and brought me down. Very laid back indeed. I saw a discusting, I mean filthy AWA A320 in MSY, and I did not even bother to tour that flying junk. <

I used to fly frequently with Southwest. By far their plane is one of the dirtiest in the industry. AW is mid-pack.

Plus your post has nothing to do what is being discussed here.
 
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RE: New Mexico ONE Makes Emergency Landing

Sat Dec 02, 2000 8:49 am

WN may have dirty seats, but they are doing their job operating safe equipment. And they are gradually getting more -700's.  
 
chiawei
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RE: New Mexico ONE Makes Emergency Landing

Sat Dec 02, 2000 9:00 am

Southwest IMHO does looks operate like a safe airline.
so far they have only lost one airplane (733 at Burbank).

I remeber one time my flight was grounded at San Diego because the wings were iced after a flight from Nashville.
 
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RE: New Mexico ONE Makes Emergency Landing

Sat Dec 02, 2000 11:56 am

Southwest Airlines is a VERY SAFE Airline. Regardless of Bird Strikes. It happens all the time. But The Fact that WN chose to fly on. But it ended up Landing without Incident. So Lets all Hang up the Fight and Let WN be the best.  
 
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About My Post

Mon Dec 04, 2000 8:43 am

Critter592:

Apart from the fact that you have quite a morbid username (I think I'll change mine to TWA 800 from now on), you don't get my post at all. I was being SARCASTIC and making fun of people like Chiwei and ContinentalEWR who think that an airline is unsafe when a minor incident occurs. I said Southwest should be scrutinizd after reading a post from ContinetalEWR stating that AirTran should be SHUT DOWN of all things because of an onboard fire. And I was making fun of Chiawei for overeating about a pilot's decison after a birdstrike. The post was made with tongue planted firmly in cheek. In no way did I mean to diss SWA. I love flying on them and have done so several times, never having a bad flight. Thanks for wishing me to get sucked through an engine though, that's real mature.

CO Lite: Again I was not dissing SWA and last I checked, they had a couple of dirty planes too. FYI, AWA has not lost a plane EVER. No crashes, no incidents. What about that SWA 733 at BUR? What do you have to say about that? Yes we have our share of operational problems and issues and I'll be the first to admit that, but we are extremely safe.

You guys seriously need to lighten the hell up.

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