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Rang Of A 757

Sun Dec 10, 2000 11:33 am

I know this may be kind of dum biu dose a 757 do i don't know how to say this but do 757 fly across the ocean if they don't how doy they fly international flights or dose that mean they fly to canadia or something in that range.
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RE: To Both Of You

Sun Dec 10, 2000 12:08 pm

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RE: Rang Of A 757

Sun Dec 10, 2000 12:11 pm

Please spell check your post. It's really hard to answer your question when I can barely understand the question.
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RE: Rang Of A 757

Sun Dec 10, 2000 1:18 pm

Gregjet are you blind or something? Look like you typed that without looking. Wishihadalife, why aren't 757's able to fly over water?
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RE: Rang Of A 757

Sun Dec 10, 2000 2:34 pm

Actually, Continental operates their 757's on transatlantic routes. In particular, they fly between EWR and one of the smaller cities in the UK.
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RE: Rang Of A 757

Sun Dec 10, 2000 2:50 pm

Some just don't know what they're talking about
and want to throw words anyways.
Boeing 757's are approved to cross the Atlantic
with passengers and regularly do this task.
I hope next time you do your researches before
throwing questions like these in the forum.
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RE: Rang Of A 757

Sun Dec 10, 2000 3:15 pm

I can't believe I'm adding my two cents on this. It looks like Gregjet may be a child. That's cool. It's good to ask questions. But for wishihadalife, then explain to me how do people get to Iceland, Japan, Taiwan, Hawai'i, or any other island or far off place in the off season? There is not enough money to fly a 747-400 to Iceland in January so the airline makes some changes. Technology is so advanced that 737NGs are making scheduled flights between Honolulu and Oakland and from Los Angeles to New York! Two engines....3000 miles (give or take a few) What an age we live in! (But I'll always love the 4 engine BAe-146   )
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RE: Rang Of A 757

Sun Dec 10, 2000 3:54 pm


Your third-hand information about Boeing 757’s being unable to fly over water is incorrect. Many airlines operate Boeing 757’s on ETOPS flights. The 757 is certified to fly 180 minute ETOPS flights. UAL flies 757’s from the mainland to Hawaii. If you don’t believe me check UAL’s website. UAL Flight 57 is a 757-200 operating from LAX to KOA.

I believe the following excerpt from Boeing’s website explains the 757-200’s range and ETOPS certification.
“Range Capability
The demonstrated reliability of the 757 has approval for extended-range twin (engine) operation, or ETOPS. In July 1990, the Federal Aviation Administration granted 180-minute ETOPS certification for 757-200s equipped with both the Rolls-Royce RB211-535E4 and RB211-535C engines. Previously, the FAA had certified the 757-200 equipped with RB211-535E4 engines for 120-minute operation in 1986. In April 1992, the FAA granted 180-minute ETOPS certification for the 757-200 equipped with Pratt & Whitney PW2000-series engines. This followed the FAA's previous certification of Pratt & Whitney PW2000-powered 757-200s for 120-minute operation in April 1990.
For added reliability on ETOPS flights, the 757 is available with extended range features, including a backup hydraulic-motor generator and an auxiliary fan to cool equipment in the electronics bay. High-gross-weight versions of the aircraft can fly 4,500 statute miles (7,240 kilometers) nonstop with full passenger payload. These system attributes contribute to the 757's versatility, allowing it to serve more markets”

The person you who told you 757’s could not operate over water was probably referring to 757’s operated by carriers that are not ETOPS certified & do not maintain their 757’s to ETOPS specifications. To operate any aircraft under ETOPS both the operator and the aircraft/engine(s) must be certified for ETOPS operations and must follow tighter operational requirements both for maintenance and flight planning. This is why some particular aircraft from particular operators may not be legal to operate an ETOPS flight even though other operators may operate the same aircraft type with the same engines on long over water ETOPS flights.

It might be wise to refrain from making accusations that tend to put down other posters & their knowledge on the basis of inaccurate third hand knowledge without first checking the facts out yourself. There are hundreds of sources of fairly accurate aviation information on the web. I doubt there is anyone on this board that has absolutely zero knowledge to share about aviation. Information gleaned from a source at the company that put the oxygen generators in the cargo hold of ValuJet Flight 592 which led to that tragedy, might count as being dubious at best.

RE: Rang Of A 757

Sun Dec 10, 2000 4:01 pm

WishIhadalife, I can assure you that the 757 can fly over water. CO flies them over the Atlantic, BA flies them over the Atlantic (although they might have stopped that). But the 757 also flies the Pacific to Hawaii. I think you should do you research before you post on here and look dumb.
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Sun Dec 10, 2000 5:07 pm

What is wrong with you people? He's just screwing with you. He just pushed all you buttons and you fell for it. Who believes a mass produced comercial airplane can't fly over water? (One that has frequently flown to Hawaii over the past decade and a half for example.) Seriously, your first clue was his joke about the lake and Chicago. C'mon people.
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RE: Rang Of A 757

Sun Dec 10, 2000 7:43 pm

My fathers girlfriend knows someone that has contacts to someone who has an uncle that has a relative that was married to a lady which was related to a person who has overheard someone discussing airliners flying over wet areas...

Why should an aircraft with essentially the same avionics and a common type rating to 767, the most widely used A/C used to fly the Atlantic ocean, not be permitted to do the same. Well, as stated previously, they are.

BTW, I have flown across Lake Michigan a number of times in 757's, I never got wet feet .

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RE: Rang Of A 757

Sun Dec 10, 2000 10:28 pm

Well the 757 IS definitely ETOPs rated. Also there are quite a few airlines (charter i think) operating regular trans-atlantic services using these aircraft.
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RE: Rang Of A 757

Sun Dec 10, 2000 10:35 pm

Wishihadalife should definately be banned from this forum. a 75-85 YEAR old whose friend's MOM's NEW BOYFRIEND???? This guy is just full of crap, or then really senile.
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RE: Rang Of A 757

Sun Dec 10, 2000 10:47 pm

two things are clear:

1: the 757 CAN and DOES fly over water. It is certified for 180 min. ETOPS.

2: Wishihadalife is just messing with you. Most of you fell for it.

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RE: Rang Of A 757

Mon Dec 11, 2000 12:17 am

oh please, people,
Everyone (except people with an IQ less than 60 and people from Florida for obvious reasons) know that nearly all planes are allowed over water, and certainly over lakes... This was just a (quite good) form of humour and sarcasm!
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RE: Rang Of A 757

Mon Dec 11, 2000 12:37 am

Yes they do I know Iceland Air operates 757 to the US
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RE: Rang Of A 757

Mon Dec 11, 2000 1:33 am

I resent the Florida remark. It should be noted that Florida is the 3rd largest state population wise and has one of the best economies. IF YOU WANT TO BITCH ABOUT THE ELECTION... Then take your Grandparents back.. We are sick of the blue hairs driving down the interstate at 35 MPH!

RE: Rang Of A 757

Mon Dec 11, 2000 2:09 am

By the way whats a Rang?
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RE: Rang Of A 757

Mon Dec 11, 2000 2:46 am

I ment do 757 cross the ociean . For expample do 757 fly from jfk to an airport in london or smoething like that some people need to chill out a bit because i was rushing to right my topic

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RE: Rang Of A 757

Mon Dec 11, 2000 4:24 am

Canada 3000 flies them YYZ-SYD with many stops. like YVR and HNL and Fiji i think. CO does CLE-LGW, EWR-STN starting next summer. EWR-GLA is also on eof them i think EWR-SNN amd EWR-DUB are 757s. Finnair flies a HEL-BGR-PBI route. TWA operated them on JFK-LIS, JFK-BCN, JFK-MAD and now MAD and BCN are no more while JFK-LIS is mostly 767s.

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RE: Range Of A 757

Mon Dec 11, 2000 4:32 am

I think there is an Icelandair flight from New York to London with a stop in Iceland.

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