wolfpacker
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Midway To Miami

Thu Dec 21, 2000 5:16 am

Thought this was interesting.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/001220/nc_midway_.html

I wonder what AA thinks of this.

Regards,
 
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RE: Midway To Miami

Thu Dec 21, 2000 5:19 am

First SJC and now MIA? It seems like Midway is just asking to get bought out by AMR.
 
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RE: Midway To Miami

Thu Dec 21, 2000 5:26 am

Aha! See AA doesn't fly from RDU to SJC N/S, but they do RDU to MIA(meaning that AA and JI will be doing a competitive dance on this route). I think JI is making it very clear to AA that they do not want a merger.

Congrats to JI and what appears to be true growth from them. If this is the pattern, then we can anticipate DFW/LUV and MDW/ORD.

Take care and have a nice day.

P.S. AA was supposed to be the handler for JI @ SJC. Now Delta is handling them. JI is staying away as far as possible from AA, even at tht airports.
 
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RE: Midway To Miami

Thu Dec 21, 2000 5:36 am

Would AA really buy JI to begin with? There's no fleet commonality whatsoever (JI uses CRJ, B737-200, and a few F100s), and JI's RDU hub was abandoned by AA. Besides, JI wouldn't enter into an agreement with AA period. They saw what happened when RenoAir entered into a "strategic marketing agreement" with AA. American Scarelines (sorry, couldn't resist  ) tore them to shreds and screwed their pilots over royally!
 
Matt D
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RE: Midway To Miami

Thu Dec 21, 2000 5:38 am

Any chance of Midway coming to LAX or SNA or even ONT?
I know they served LAX back in 1996, but that was a half baked rotation from RDU-LAX-LAS-RDU red eye using an A320.
The service didn't last long.
Maybe they can come in and do it right this time?
 
wolfpacker
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RE: Midway To Miami

Thu Dec 21, 2000 5:38 am

Midway still uses AA at some airports, but is using other ground handlers and doing some of their own handling, MCO I think is one. And they do have to interact closely with AA due to the RDU facility and AAdvantage. However, passengers will not get AAdvantage miles on MIA or SJC, not sure about Steamboat.

AMR buying Midway, not a stretch although Dr. Goodnight, local billionaire, owns the majority of Midway and would probably want to keep the airline local.

They do have other aircraft due, heard lots of cities are being thrown around.

On another note, Midway will now have competition on RDUPBI with Southwest.

Happy Holidays!

 
wolfpacker
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RE: Midway To Miami

Thu Dec 21, 2000 5:39 am

Midway has 737-800s
 
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RE: Midway To Miami

Thu Dec 21, 2000 5:43 am

JI has -800s? When did they get those?

I don't follow Midway too closely, as they don't fly into JAX much. And all we see are CRJs, anyway.
 
Matt D
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RE: Midway To Miami

Thu Dec 21, 2000 5:48 am

Midway does not have -800's.
They have -700's.
Plus some Fokker 100's and CRJ's
 
CactusA319
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RE: Midway To Miami

Thu Dec 21, 2000 5:48 am


JI uses-700's and is slowly getting rid of the F100s. In a few years it'll be 73G's and CRJ's for them. The AAdvantage agreement is ending soon for them and they are in talks to renew but it most likely won't happen. Not too many of MDW's pax accrue the AAdvantage miles on them anyway. Also, as Wolfpacker metioned, it's unlikely Goodnight will sell out to AA or anyone else.
 
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RE: Midway To Miami

Thu Dec 21, 2000 5:57 am

Midway flies neither the 732 nor 738. It flies the 737-700. I agree that fleet mix seems to make JI less attractive for an AMR buyout, but I imagine if it were to occur RDU ops would be fairly contained, so I don't think it would be too much of a problem. The 737-700s might be sold off and replaced with 738s but that's about it. And you know what, I don't think opposition to a buyout would come from JI pilots. Contrary to what N-156F said, Reno Air pilots were not royally screwed by the buyout. In fact, most of them were dancing in the streets popping open bottles of champagne. A lot of them had their salaries doubled. The people who were REALLY pissed were the AA pilots over the seniority issue.
 
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RE: Midway To Miami

Fri Dec 22, 2000 8:59 am

Yeah N-156F has no idea what he is talking about...

The only people who were screwed in the Reno Air buyout were AA pax whose flights were delayed while pilots protested. Reno Air pilots saw their salaries and benefits jump to American Airlines levels.

Also, AA and JI have similar fleets. 737-800 (of AA) and 737-700 (of JI) have cockpit commonality, not sure about the engines, and while JI's F100s will be gone over the next 5 years, AA itself also has a vast fleet of this type. JI's CRJ fleet is too small compared to Eagle's tremendous order and current fleet of ERJs to mean anything.

Its true though that JI progressively moving away from AA and JI pax probably won't be accruing AAdvantage miles much longer. Could SkyMiles be next.....
 
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RE: Midway To Miami

Fri Dec 22, 2000 10:23 am

*Gulp*

Oops- my bad there. Next time I'll double check something like that before I post my very vague memory of the news stories. My apoligies to AA and all who are involved in this thread, and I have suggested that individual post for deletion.
 
AA@DFW
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RE: Midway To Miami

Fri Dec 22, 2000 11:58 am

From what I understand, AA already owns a portion of Midway. AA does all their operations at BOS and in a few other markets.

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