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UPS A306F/767F Question

Fri Dec 29, 2000 12:39 pm

To all: In a recent thread our friend UPSpilot mentioned that UPS had allowed all its' 767F options
to expire without exercising any of them. Since UPS has since ordered the similar A306F, does this indicate that UPS is dissatisfied with the 767F or were there other considerations?

Can anyone elaborate?

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RE: UPS A306F/767F Question

Fri Dec 29, 2000 12:43 pm

Actually it seems that the A300-600F order now might be decreased due to the MD-11s that Boeing is preparing to convert to freighters and deliver to UPS.
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RE: UPS A306F/767F Question

Fri Dec 29, 2000 12:44 pm

Hey,
I had asked the same question, and someone from UPS said that UPS loves their 763Fs but the A306Fs are being purchased to operate short/medium range routes, and to free up 763Fs on these routes so they can operate on longe range routes which they were purchased to do. The reason for choosing the A306F is that it is more economical to operate on these routes, and it fits better on these routes than their 763Fs do.
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RE: UPS A306F/767F Question

Fri Dec 29, 2000 4:50 pm

Although similar to the 767s, the A300s were ordered to fill a specific regional requirement for a larger payload (100,000 lbs, I believe). As mentionned above, this would free the 767s for long-haul. I had previously read about some speculation that it may have also involved a combination of politics (European route rights) and dissatisfaction with the Boeing product. I'm not starting an Airbus vs Boeing thread, but there were some well publicized problems with 767s having been delivered to UPS with some defects in the tail.
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RE: UPS A306F/767F Question

Sat Dec 30, 2000 12:54 am

King767 and Falconflyer have answered the question. King767 reiterated exactly what I stated in a previous post.
The A306 makes a nice fit between the 75 and 76 for UPS. It allows the 76 to do what it was bought for  

As far as the MD-11 what CX747 stated reducing the amount of A306's. UPS has a firm commitment for 30 A306's till 2008 and options for 30 more. We won't know about the options until then but there will be atleast 30 buses in the fleet. The MD-11 purchase was for UPS's long range fleet to complement the current 747 and 767 fleets. The A306 was soley purchased for regional wide body lift, not long range lift. With the China routes starting in April UPS needed extra long range lift. Another 747-200 has been added to the fleet. 13 MD-11's to start with options and also more 747's possibly. There have been talks about 747-300 conversions like Atlas and also 400 and 747x talks also.

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