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I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 12:09 am

I nearly drove off the road when I heard the news this morning on the way to work. Seriously, I became physically affected. As a businessman, I understand why these things happen. However, on an emotional level, I'm sure all fellow aviation enthusiasts here understand that it is tough to rationalize and accept the dismemberment and disappearance of one of your favorite companies without feeling a sense of loss.

Some preliminary, reactionary thoughts:

1) It is really tough to imagine no more TWA.

2) What about my frequent flier miles?

3) What about my Elite1 status?

4) What about my Amabassador Club membership?

5) What about my TWA tickets?


Some hopeful, positive thoughts:

1) I'll become an AA Gold member

2) I'll become an AA Admiral's Club member

3) I'll have more destination choices.

4) AA has a reputation for being the #1 gay-friendly airline.

5) My tickets will be just fine, the STL hub and route system will be largely unchanged for quite awhile, and the only difference is I'll be flying on AA instead of TW.

Let's hope.


It'll be several months of uncertainty and angst for thousands of people across the country, not the least of which are the TW employees. It's going to take some time for everybody to digest this. I know I'll be quite distracted by this today.

I'm very, very sad.

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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 12:16 am

Hey TWFirst,
I can understand you and I am sorry for you and all TWA fans out there.
I would feel the same if it would happen to MY airline, Alitalia.
Anyway, all I can say is that American Airlines is another big and Historical name in American Aviation Industry and is of course better than that corporation I heard of, was it Global Airline or something like that

Ciao

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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 12:18 am

TWFirst....

We may disagree on other things... but I must say that I am absolutely shocked that TWA is gone. We were all thinking TWA would stagger through the next three years, then another two or three from that, we'd see TW 777s flying over the pond.

American is a good airline and a good company to work for. They will take care of you and all the people, customers and employees alike, of the Trans World family.

TWA, RIP

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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 12:30 am

Very nice post TWFirst. I am with you in my thoughts. Sorry to say, and I've kept myself far away from all these heated discussion between the cheerleaders of different airlines over there, but, as a consultant in the industry, I am almost convinced this might be the best sollution.

Still, as you mentioned, you get the #1 gay-friendly airline. As a member of that other big family, I can just feel that this fact should ease the pain a bit...
 
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RE: DeltaSFO

Tue Jan 09, 2001 12:39 am

Thanks Pat. I just called a good friend of mine who works for TW. To my surprise, he was very calm and rational about the whole thing, and in fact seemed pleased. He indicated that the general attitude of MSP employees is that if their jobs are safe (as the Washington Post story indicated), they're just fine with it. I suppose in a way it is a load off their mind to know they would now be working for a financially stable company. He also said he didn't think I should worry about my tickets or miles, that this will take quite awhile before anything drastic happens. His prediction was that AA would transfer the miles over, but the status wouldn't transfer over. Better than nothing, I suppose. However, he said TW hasn't communicated anything to its employees yet, so everything is pure speculation at this point.

In a way I'm totally surprised about this whole thing, and in a way I'm not. From all indications, TW was really looking to remain independent and try to survive until Karabu was over. However, I suppose there were many other indications that this task just wasn't going to be possible. I guess the biggest surprise about this is that it was a 100% surprise - no prior rumors or anything.

One other thought: I think the TWA brand has some real equity, and I'm a little surprised (if it turns out to be true) that American has no plans to leverage it. I mean, if American wants to be a truly global airline, wouldn't the name "Trans World" be fitting? "American" is not only a regional name in a global context, but let's face it, America isn't loved and cherished by a large portion of the globe as well.
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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 12:40 am

Well, they're not exactly gone yet per se. I would think that we all have a minimum of 6 months breathing room before the red letters and double globes start getting stripped just from the sheer amount of legal wrangling that will be required to make this merger actually happen. But like I said, they are at that point where they have to make a choice, either be bought, or fall to liquidation.
Yes, it will be tough to imagine not seeing the TWA name in the sky. It will take some getting used to. I feel bad for them as an airline, and those working so hard for it. But at least most of the people there will be assured jobs if AA gets a hold of them, which is a much better fate to suffer than those at Pan Am did.
We humans are a resiliant breed. While we can't comprehend the idea of no more TWA now, we all thought the same thing of Pan Am. We'll get over it. In a few years time, all of us old timers will be talking about how TWA was on this forum without too much bitterness.
 
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RE: HB-IWC

Tue Jan 09, 2001 12:42 am

Thanks HB-IWC. Haven't talked to you here before. Nice to know you understand my feelings - from several perspectives  .
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RE: HB-IWC

Tue Jan 09, 2001 12:43 am

You are very welcome. I've immediately put you on my respected users-list, of course.
 
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RE: MattD

Tue Jan 09, 2001 12:48 am

You're right. It could be worse. Life will go on. Let's hope that the story in the Wash. Post turns out to be factually correct, and that jobs aren't lost.

I just hope American doesn't sell the 'TWA' brand rights. I don't want to see some start up out of Bumf*ck, Vermont using the TWA name to fly J31's from Montpelier-Hartford in a couple of years, or some weird thing like that.
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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 12:49 am

TWFirst....

I found the same attitude at AC when talking to CP pilots and FAs.... One of them made a very telling comment when I asked him how he felt about the once proud Canadian being gobbled up by the bitter rival Air Canada:

"I don't care if there's a dead rat's ass on the tail, I am just happy to have a job."

A very true statement. Company pride is one thing, job security is another.

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RE: HB-IWC

Tue Jan 09, 2001 12:51 am

Thanks! Are you Greek? Or an American residing in Greece? I was in Greece for a week last year and will be returning in August for a couple of days.
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RE: DeltaSFO

Tue Jan 09, 2001 12:57 am

   

Thanks for the chuckle. Humor is my "upper" of choice.
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RE: TWA Press Release

Tue Jan 09, 2001 1:14 am

TWA comments on Wall Street Journal story

ST. LOUIS, MO (January 8, 2001) -- Trans World Airlines, Inc., has issued the following statement in response to a story in today’s Wall Street Journal. TWA will have no further comment on this issue.

Like other airlines, TWA from time to time holds conversations with other airlines and other businesses with the intent of exploring possible business agreements. We do not confirm or comment on such discussions until they produce agreements. To do otherwise would be counterproductive and could jeopardize the successful conclusion of transactions beneficial to TWA.

TWA was not a source for the story that appeared in this morning’s Wall Street Journal, and, consistent with our usual policy, TWA will not confirm or comment on the speculation about TWA that this story includes.

TWA is always receptive to legitimate business overtures and is open to consideration of business combinations that will be beneficial.

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I Totally Understand Your Sorrow...

Tue Jan 09, 2001 2:48 am

Hi TWFirst,

I totally understand you. I was totally shocked when I first heard about the TWA purchase by AA. Never in the world did I expect or imagined the possibility of such scenario. Trust me, I even thought of the idea of Delta buying out TWA, but I never thought that American Airlines would be the one to do so.

Well... I went through the same grievance period back in December 1991, (at age 14) when my airline ''The World's Most Experienced Airline'' shut down. I just came home from school and turned on CNN's Moneyline, to find out that Pan Am had ceased to exist. I just couldn't belive it...

I am going to be honest to you, years passed by and I still mourned the lost of my favorite airline. As a little boy I had dreamed of working for them when I grew up and my dreams were all shattered that day. At first I blamed Delta and hated them for not keeping their promise to keep the blue logo flying. But later I did my research and came to understand that Delta had kept Pan Am artificially alive for a longer period than Pan Am could have survived on it's own.

Now, I'm all grown up and as an Aviation Administration major in college I have come to understand the airline business in a managerial perspective. After the loss of Pan Am and without a favorite airline I turned my attention Southwards and kind of re-discovered my roots to the first airline that I had flown on: AeroMexico. Now, I guess this is my favorite airline. I really don't feel allegiance to any American airline exept for Delta and TWA.

I can confess that I felt some allegiance to TWA for it's historical value. TWA like Pan Am lived the golden age of travel and both of these carriers did so much to form what we take for granted today. As a teenager working in a travel agency part-time I always booked my clients on TWA. I did it for no other reason, than the fact that I wanted the TWA name to survive through the hard times (And during that time TWA was in Chapter 11). Whenever I had to fly I chose TWA because I thought that I needed to support the company. I even went out of my way and purchased my tickets from the TWA office at the TWA Tower in downtown L.A. which used to hold the west coast reservation center and which was closed about 2 years ago. The TWA letters are still on that building but I think the office is now closed.

Well... Even though I think that American Airlines is boring. I think it's the best that could have happened to the family members of TWA. Those people have gone on with years and years of instability. They deserve a good stable job and AA will be able to provide them with much more benefits and many more opportunities. Because just like you say among many other things, they are the #1 gay friendly airline.

Well, We still have a few more months of TWA. And you know, TWA won't die a shamefull death, TWA will go down holding it's head up high with honor and grace... TRANS WORLD AIRLINES


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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 4:05 am

I feel your pain...
 
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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 5:15 am

I understand the business decision and so it goes, but I literally would not exist as a human being (or any other being) without TWA.

My mother was a TWA stewardess (before the word flight attendant) from 1943 to 1949 and met my who was a passenger on one of her Connie flights across the country. Her pick up line was, "So, is your wife meeting you in San Francisco? Oh you're not married?" My dad never had a chance  . Although I've never flown TWA myself because they aren't strong on the routes I fly, I know where I'd be without them. My mom is still a "Clipped Wing" and I'm sure she and her friends will be disappointed.

Good luck to all TWA employees!
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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 5:57 am

Has TWA totally been taken over by AA? If they have this is a terrible day in aviation. My sympathies to the TWA fans out there.
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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 6:15 am

I know you feel like you've been run over by a tank with AA buying TW.

But let's face it folks: Carl Icahn's insidious Karabu scheme drained the life out of the airline; the TW 800 tragedy is a symptom of how insidious Karabu was (IMHO!   ), sucking much-needed revenue that could have gone to improve TW's fleet and maintainance practices.

TW--no thanks to Karabu--essentially could not compete against airlines with bigger war chests like AA, CO, DL and UA; their own real strength was their STL hub, which by 2000 standards cannot compete against AA's hubs at DFW and ORD, CO's hubs at IAH, EWR and CLE, DL's hubs at ATL and CVG, and UA's hubs at DEN, ORD, IAD and SFO.

I had a cousin that used to work for many years for TW at the LAX maintainance base (he even made it up to Chief Mechanic there); he must be shedding a tear for the loss of the airline that he worked so many years for.
 
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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 7:07 am

RayC,

Saying Karabu caused the Flight 800 disaster, well if that's not conjecture... I don't know what is!
 
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TWFirst

Tue Jan 09, 2001 7:16 am

I heard this when I was driving home from school, I was so pissed off I had to pullover so I wouldnt knock a SILVER car off this planet. After I pulled over I said some very offensive words about American.

It is going to be very sad not to see TWA in the air.

I refuse to fly American Airlines due to this.

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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 7:32 am

I felt amazement and shock when I heard it this morning, too. I had just gotten out of my bed and was half asleep when my dad told me the news. I was immediately awake but I wasn't too angry. I honestly didn't think TWA would turn a profit for a long time and figured someone would buy them. It's just like part of my aviation life is lost for good. I grew up with TWA. I went to STL nearly every Saturday with my mom between ages 5-7 and watched all of the classic TW planes. Back then (early 90's), I had no idea of the financial situation they were in and I thought they would be just fine with all of their big Tristars' and 747's.
As for Icahn- KUDOS- He killed a great name of aviation. I hope he looks back on this one day and realizes what a shameful and pitiful thing he did. I will remember this day in my heart and mind forever.

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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 7:35 am

This is bad. I feel for all of you that have close ties to TWA. It is a sad day.

However, I don't see a point in chastising AA just for making a sound business move. In the business world, such things just have to happen sometime or another.

By the way, the news is saying that the Trans World name will be retired. Too bad. 

This is a sad day. History is being made. Lets pray it turns out positive. 

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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 7:37 am

I'm sure the TWA name will be resuscitated for some dinky startup just like Pan Am was. Maybe the new Ozark will repeat history and grab the name.
 
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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 8:12 am

Whats gonna happen to TWAs Airbus order? What about there brand new 717s? Whats gonna happen to St. Louis Int'l!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 8:33 am

BA wrote:
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Whats gonna happen to TWAs Airbus order? What about there brand new 717s? Whats gonna happen to St. Louis Int'l!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


All excellent questions, but you forgot the most important one: what's TWFirst's new handle going to be?
 
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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 9:06 am

TWFirst, I'm with you all the way. I heard about it when my Government teacher turned on CNN when I had lunch in there, and found myself squeezing very, very hard on an unopened Coke can. Hard enough that it actually exploded in my hand...ow...

I haven't flown on TWA for several years now, but you can bet that the next flight I take will be on TW. Truly the loss of a legend- the only major left that was around for the Golden Age of aviation.

As far as TWFirst's handle goes, I say leave it as is. TWA always has been, and always will be, First.

 
 
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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 9:17 am

I'm already grieving today for this great company and source of many personal firsts:
Sight of the grand and graceful Constellation arriving mid-America from LAX
Flight on a jet airliner, B707, flt's. 55 and 56
Flight on a CV880 Las-Alb-Tul
Transcon on a B747
Transcon on L1011's
Compressor stall over LAX (at night, looked like 4th of July fireworks when it backfired); safe and quick return; and then departure on a sister ship (B707)
Flight on B727 with flaps and slates extended for two-hour duration as we crept low and slow to STL and help
View of innovative and elegant terminal architecture at STL and JFK (when they were nice)

Thanks for all the wonderful times and memories, and best wishes to all concerned.

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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 9:19 am

Twfirst, I would like to welcome you to the AA enthusiast family. I think the transition will go well, and your aadvantage status will be equivelent to your milage on TWA(is my guess) and I see no reason why you should not be granted membership to the aadmirals club. American is very well recognized and they are a great airline. I think pretty much, all your statuses with TWA will be converted to American. I too will miss Twa, but I am glad it was swallowed up by a great, well known airline. I am sure AA will hang onto the TWA naming rights. Welcome to American.
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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 10:10 am

Hello all TW people?

Now that I'm finally home I can elaborate, oh boy...
-I can't imagine JFK without TWA. I just always associated TWA and JFK. But more over ,I can't imagine the aviation world without them. I don't remember when Eastern stopped, but I do remember PA, even though I was 7 or 8. So, I guess like others, I can't imagine a world without them

-I thought about it all day! Whenever class got boring (most of the time) I just spaced out and thought about what's happening to this great airline. It's a dying institution that was making a come back, but was eaten up by silver birds when no one was looking. Could anyone forsee this? I just always thought if they did merge it would be with HP or something, but AA buying them! So sad,can this be overturned? Could AA keep the TW name alive, please.

-If we all payed x amount of dollars and put it together, could we buy TWA? (Keeping it as TWA).

>>I refuse to fly American Airlines due to this.

I'd have to say the same TWA, but I don't know what other airline I would fly. I have AS miles and TW and AA are AS partners, so before all this crap I could fly TWA, or then AA if I couldn't fly TW and get AS miles, very good! But now what do I do? If I boycot AA, that leaves me flying NW and CO everywhere thats not AS territory! They fly nowhere from LAX...hubs and Asia! I'm screwed! I've taken out everything from my profile that said I liked AA (I used to, until last night). I don't know if I can really hold a grudge against AA, I've always liked them, but for now I'm going to join your "NO WAY AA/TW"! Ok? Good idea.

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Hey TWFirst

Tue Jan 09, 2001 11:06 am

Of course I immediately thought of you when I heard about this news (bonjour from Orlando, by the way).

I've never flown TWA, so I have no nostalgia connected to the airline. But I do feel sadness that a historic name with reasonable fares is going to bite the dust.

I have to say that there are a lot worse airlines that could have bought TWA. In my experience, AA has been an excellent airline (and as you said, very friendly to our tribe). I hope they keep all the routes and personnel that TWA had. Hey, at least you get more room in Coach!  

And to all the people who want to boycott AA, why? AA made a sound business decision that will probably benefit most TWA employees in the long run.

I agree that it is sad, but life will go on.

AA is a progressive airline that respects all people. TWA could have done a lot worse.
 
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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 11:36 am

I will also be very sad to see a great name go up in polished silver. Twa was the airline that confermed my love for comerical avation with a flight on one of there last remaining Dc-9-10, hense my name. It is a sad day when in the 50's-60's we had so many airlines no we are pretty going to be down to just a handful.
United- United/Us airways American-American/TWA
Delta- Delta/Continental???? Northwest???? Southwest and a few others.
Let's just hope that American can find a new livery instead that god aweful thing they have now.

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RE: TWFirst

Tue Jan 09, 2001 11:56 am

I like your name change. It would be very appropriate for you to re-register as TWForever.
 
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RE: TWFirst

Tue Jan 09, 2001 12:04 pm

Now I will no longer br able to ask the stewardess if she has any TWA coffee or TWA tea.  
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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 12:07 pm

Say it ain't so, TWA can't go. (Weep weep, sniff, sniff.)

Well, I've tried to think of some good things...
-Largest MD-80 fleet! 390, well with QQ ones.
-Chance of more 717 orders! Always good, and it keeps jobs at LGB MDC.
-AA is a good airline, despite this, and before this all I liked them.

Ok, I can't think of anything else. Really, I try to study and I keep thinking of this!

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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 12:46 pm

My question, which I just have to ask, is who wasn't completely shocked by the news? Although I have never flown TWA, it shocked me tremedously, considering their recent ad campaign, and I was actually thinking about flying them.
The most vivid memory I have about TWA is, ironically, and sadly, the crash of TWA flight 800. I was 10 years old, and I was stuck in this trance. I couldn't believe it. I was crying on and off constantly for almost a month. One night I swore to my mother that when I grew up, I wanted to be a TWA pilot and fly the 767 on transatlantic routes.

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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Tue Jan 09, 2001 2:27 pm

American is the #1 Gay airline?? ROFLMAO...

United had full domestic partner benefits first   and they sponsor more local gay/lesbian/bisexual organizations vs. a national level. AA just likes to advertise more on a national level  

anyhow... they are gay friendly and i'm thankful for that!
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Tue Jan 09, 2001 11:58 pm

Travelin Man: Thanks for the sentiment guy. Yes, I'm trying to look at the positives. I'm glad it is American and not another airline. I'm glad that STL will stay as is. I'm really happy for the employees. I think they're going to be the real winners. Even if they lose seniority, they're going to be paid A LOT better, and I know they'll be happy about that (and the stability).

I reflected on the loss of TWA and my feelings all day yesterday. I asked myself why I felt so affected by an airline going out of business that I don't even work for.

TWA has provided me with some very enjoyable moments. I know all you guys understand when I say how much I enjoy flying. And I loved flying on TWA. I loved hanging out in the Ambassadors Club and talking to the bartender. I loved the history of the airline. I have a special connection with STL as that is near where I grew up. I'm a very brand-loyal person and I almost always root for the underdog. I know how hard TW employees have worked, I am friends with some of them, and I really wanted TW to make it. Then I thought back to when Ozark was bought. Ozark was also loved by people in the Midwest. My hometown was its first destination! And people mourned Ozark's loss. But Ozark was folded into another airline, and well, I realized I fell in love with that airline. So, it's possible I'll also fall in love with American (although it won't be the underdog and doesn't have quite the same glamorous history). Hopefully, I'll still be able to flly through St. Louis, hang out at the Ambassadors (oops, I mean Admirals) Club, see the same employees, sit in First Class (what's American's called?), and continue to have great aviatory experiences. If that happens, it'll make it easier to lay flowers on TWA's grave and cherish my fond memories of a great airline. A great airline whose spirit and substance will hopefully be carried on by American.

Segment King: Perception is reality . And in our "market," I would venture to say that American has the better reputation.

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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Wed Jan 10, 2001 12:06 am

So TWFirst....

You decided yet what the new handle will be? Or if there will be a new handle?

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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Wed Jan 10, 2001 12:31 am

According to a gay magazine called out and about on how airlines treat gay employees it goes like this
Virgin and BA got As
AA, NWA,United,and DL got Bs
AWA, SWA got Cs
and now for the bad news CO and TWA got Ds. I think that for the sake of the hard working gay, bi and other minority employees the merger will be good for then so that their complaints, questions, and safety in the work place will matter instead of being jerked around; for this I like AA.When I heard that CO and TWA got Ds I nearly fell out of my chair. I had wondered why did Gordon Bethune not address the issue properly? I hope that for PR sake and for the sake of the airline Bethune will take the issue a bit more seriously. I think US Airways got either a B or C.

I wonder on how PA, Braniff and EAL would treat their gay and minority employees if they were still around?
"FUIMUS"
 
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RE: DeltaSFO

Wed Jan 10, 2001 2:16 am

Haven't thought that far ahead yet. Probably no new handle. I will forever fondly remember my days of flying in Trans World First. TWA's First Class service provided me many a happy flying experience, so I'm inclined to keep the name.

Also, it's a rule of brand equity: don't mess with the brand for fear of confusing the marketplace and losing brand value. Thus, I wouldn't want to confuse my fellow airliners.net friends who know me as TWFirst by changing my name. They may mistake me for some right-wing extremist conservative or something....

Nahhhh.  
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RE: Dont Feel That Way

Wed Jan 10, 2001 2:31 am

It is unfortunate that TWA will disappear. TWA was and still is a great airline. But they are being bought by an even better AAirline. I am sure you will like flying American. It will take a few years untill everything is changed over though.
We will all miss TWA
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RE: TWFirst

Wed Jan 10, 2001 1:38 pm

Hey,

I'm very sorry about the news, I'm sure this has upset you very much. I loved TWA and was planning to fly them next year to JFK, but I'll guess I'll go with United. There are a few good things about this, American is a great airline and you will probably like working there.

Best and Kind Regards,

B744
 
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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Wed Jan 10, 2001 2:06 pm

TWFirst,

Sorry to hear about TWA buddy. Hope your feeling better today.

Cheers,

mb
 
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RE: I Feel Like I've Been Punched In The Stomach

Wed Jan 10, 2001 3:38 pm

Don't worry TWFirst,

It's all good. I'd be wiling to be bet that AA will be more than happy to take care of you! I'd be shocked if they didn't make you gold and give you all the perks you said you were hoping for. If they don't for you, there is no way I will ever fly them again and demand my corporate travel program remove them from the required carrier list. (That just leaves CO).

It will work out....and who knows, a lot may happen from now till then, I've heard that NW, DL or CO may make an offer in bankruptcy court.

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