flyf15
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Classic Jumbos Getting Rare In The America

Tue Jan 09, 2001 2:53 pm

Seems like some of our favorite classic widebodies are getting pretty rare in North/South America.

(airlines left flying in sched/sched charter pax service)

L1011: Air Transat, Delta, ATA, and BWIA

B747-100/200/300/SP: Northwest and Aerolineas Argentinas


Sad to see them go...
 
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RE: Classic Jumbos Getting Rare In The America

Tue Jan 09, 2001 11:49 pm

Doesn't the DC10 count?
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RE: Classic Jumbos Getting Rare In The America

Tue Jan 09, 2001 11:57 pm

Pretty soon, the only US-based airlines flying the L1011 and DC-10 in the USA will be ATA and Hawaiian.

And even that is in doubt because I think both ATA and Hawaiian are looking at getting the 767-300ER/400ER to replace their tri-engine jumbos.
 
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RE: Classic Jumbos Getting Rare In The America

Wed Jan 10, 2001 3:30 am

NW DC-10's will be around for a while.
 
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RE: Classic Jumbos Getting Rare In The America

Wed Jan 10, 2001 5:51 am

Thomacf,

Don't count on it.  

According to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, NW is about to announce a big order split between Boeing and Airbus planes.

It appears that they'll buy a combination of Boeing 777-200ER and 764-400ER jets as DC-10 replacements and more A319/A320 planes to finally rid NW's fleet of 722's.
 
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RE: Classic Jumbos Getting Rare In The America

Wed Jan 10, 2001 5:54 am

Do you think those planes come overnight Ray Chuang? The NW Dc10s WILL be around for awhile. Also, the 727 fleet replacements are already on order. The next fleet planning NW will do is to replace the DC9s, which won't be for awhile, and the older 742s.


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RayChuang
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RE: Classic Jumbos Getting Rare In The America

Wed Jan 10, 2001 6:00 am

Azjubilee,

Actually, if NW wants to kill two birds with one stone  , I think they should seriously look at buying a combination of 772ER and 773ER. That way, they can put the D10's and 742's FINALLY out to pasture.

This means the 772ER's will be on routes to Europe and the 773ER's will be on routes to Asia.

We may see a little bit down the road NW ordering the 764ER for USA transcon/US West Coast-Hawaii routes and very likely the A318 as DC-9 replacements.
 
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RE: Classic Jumbos Getting Rare In The America

Wed Jan 10, 2001 6:31 am

Northwest should just take over TWA's A318 positions.
 
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RE: Classic Jumbos Getting Rare In The America

Wed Jan 10, 2001 9:18 am

Well, since I live near O'Hare, I see lots of jumbos. While driving past O'Hare, a JAL 747 flew right over my car! It was soo cool! I also see a lot of UAL 747s.
 
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RE: Classic Jumbos Getting Rare In The America

Wed Jan 10, 2001 10:18 am

It's sad at DEN, when just a year ago, you could see many DC-10's and 747-200's heading off around the world...

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RE: Classic Jumbos Getting Rare In The America

Wed Jan 10, 2001 11:34 am

Can the 773 fill the capasity NW needs to Japan? Those 747s are always full! Also, some of their 747-200s are relatively new. I agree, while the DC10 is a beautiful bird, NW could improve its already great reliability and cut costs if they operated the 777 or something of the like. I love airbus, but personally would love to see the 777 replace the DC10s... how sexy would that bird be in the red tails? Someones point of NW taking the TWA 318s is an interesting and great point. That could accelarate the departure of the DC9, which is a great a/c for NW, but a bit long in the tooth.

But, lets wait patiently and see what REALLY happens.

AZJ

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