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WOW BA;10 Seats PER ROW IN 777?!

Fri Jan 12, 2001 3:42 am

                         

Check out the link http://www.british-airways.com/flights/factfile/seatplan/docs/boeing777.shtml

My god, this looks cramped enough. Anyone been on an aircraft configured like that? It's like being in a tuna can!!! I bet they are used for domestic routes but it is overcramped. Anyone knows where these fly to?I shure wouldn't like to be in there, would you? Share your opinion!
 
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RE: WOW BA;10 Seats PER ROW IN 777?!

Fri Jan 12, 2001 3:43 am

That's why I don't like to fly in a 777.
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RE: WOW BA;10 Seats PER ROW IN 777?!

Fri Jan 12, 2001 3:47 am

Hmm I flew BA last January, routing LGW-ATL. I'm sure the seating was 2 either side and 5 in the middle, ie 9 seats per row. I'm guessing the 10 may be used for the scheduled charter flights, which BA carries out.
 
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RE: WOW BA;10 Seats PER ROW IN 777?!

Fri Jan 12, 2001 3:49 am

BA's normal configuration is 3-3-3 in coach on the 777. The high denisity configuration you see there is, I believe, used only on their tourist flights to the Carribean (notice it is "configuration 3") which are actually operated by another company using aircraft painted in BA livery. I do believe this is the case. I know there are people on this forum who know what I am talking about.
 
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RE: WOW BA;10 Seats PER ROW IN 777?!

Fri Jan 12, 2001 3:53 am

BA uses these aircraft on Carribean routes... so quite to the contrary of domestic hops, they are used on 10hr segments.

That said, Emirates also has a ten-abreast seating arrangement in Coach on it's 777s too. The 777s are only 7" narrower than a 747-400 so there is less than an inch difference in width per seat between the two types of airplane.

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RE: WOW BA;10 Seats PER ROW IN 777?!

Fri Jan 12, 2001 4:01 am

It's no more cramped than any other Economy class-flown both types of configuration-trust me, you wouldn't notice the difference. If you don't like it, pay Business or First!
 
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RE: WOW BA;10 Seats PER ROW IN 777?!

Fri Jan 12, 2001 4:39 am

What wrong with 10 abreasts per row....?? It carries more passengers that way.

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RE: WOW BA;10 Seats PER ROW IN 777?!

Fri Jan 12, 2001 5:34 am

BA's 10 abreast 777s also get routed to other cities - a couple of friends flew to Penang via Kuala Lumpur with BA last year and they were shocked to find the plane cramped and packed to the brim as it was the Easter holidays and BA swapped the aircraft to pack more on-board...strange though - according to BA - no-one flies with them to KL so they have decided to withdraw their service  
 
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RE: WOW BA;10 Seats PER ROW IN 777?!

Fri Jan 12, 2001 5:48 am

As far as I know, 777 is no less wide (if not wider) than MD11. I flew on MD11 with 3-4-3 configuration (OH-LGA) and felt no difference from 2-5-2.
 
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RE: WOW BA;10 Seats PER ROW IN 777?!

Fri Jan 12, 2001 5:58 am

G'day

Sad to say, I had to fly in A300's configured 9 abreast which I guess is no better than 10 abreast in a 777. South African and Korean used to offer that kind of hospitality to their self loading cargo.

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Peter
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RE: WOW BA;10 Seats PER ROW IN 777?!

Sat Jan 13, 2001 9:14 am

The seat width on the 777 configured with 10 abreast is the same as the A340/330.

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RE: WOW BA;10 Seats PER ROW IN 777?!

Sat Jan 13, 2001 9:54 am

Capt.Picard wrote:
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.... If you don't like it, pay Business or First!
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Nope! Fly with another company instead.
Best regards, Preben Norholm
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RE: WOW BA;10 Seats PER ROW IN 777?!

Sat Jan 13, 2001 11:48 am

FLY777ual : WOULD YOU SHUT UP !!! Those are stupid american-anti-airbus comments !
 
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Mas777

Sat Jan 13, 2001 12:11 pm

Well, there we go again. I have just about had it with your consistent false and factually wrong presentation of information regarding BA's withdrawal from KUL.

Whilst I am not a BA-fan at all, I actually haven't read any press release by BA telling that they withdraw from the route because nobody flies it (your words!). So, I invite you to come up with this official BA statement.

Once again, BA decided to withdraw for economical reasons. As a regular visitor of thise site, you should know that it is perfectly possible to fly full planes and still loose, or not make money.

Concerning the topic, although what you say is possible, I would find it extremely hard to believe that BA would put a high density 777 on the KUL route, for the following reasons:

- high density 777s are LGW based, BA33 operates from LHR;

- high density 777s are extremely tightly scheduled, and generally have a schedule arriving in London in the morning and leaving again in te morning or early afternoon;

- a KUL flight would require such an aircraft not only to be transferred to LHR, but also would make it fly in a totally different time frame, being away from London for 2 consecutive nights, which is, given the highly daily utilisation for the Carribean flights, very unlikely. I don't believe they have such an aircraft not flying for 2 consecutive days;

- the flight would have to operate without a first class and with a business class that is no more than a premium economy cabin. I don't think that high yield KUL pax would appreciate that (or don't they have any high yield pax? In that case it is high time for BA to withdraw...)

- whilst it might be a logical thing to put a high density a/c on the route for the holiday season due to high demand, I think the routes generally flown by this a/c are in even higher demand, so it would make no sense for BA to put a lower density configuration on those routes. This is something that would for sure not be accepted by Flying Colors, the company who is marketing those charter flights, and to which BA guarantees these aircraft and their daily number of seats;

- I have, btw, been trying to find a BA33 flight operated by such and aircraft (there is a website stating all a/c movements at LHR airport), but I saw BA33 only operated by regular 777s in the period I looked;


These are just my thoughts about your post. Most probably, they absolutely make no sense, so I am anxiously looking forward to your answers to above remarks.
 
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RE: WOW BA;10 Seats PER ROW IN 777?!

Sat Jan 13, 2001 6:10 pm

You may well be right - as I said the information was just what a friend said - They only called to tell me (as they are not airline buffs) as they were surprised to find NO first class cabin and the two of them were stuck in the middle two seats which means that the flight must have been operated in a 3-4-3 configuration.

The KUL route is indeed a mystery but I can assure you that the information is not false - my sources could not be any more reliable...

btw the fact that 'no-one' flies BA to KUL anymore was BA London's answer to the Malaysian travelling public. BA Malaysia in fact is in the process of producing some accounts and some may be shocked to learn that - the results are expected to be healthier than previously thought.  

ps...there was however a marked decrease in Cargo revenue due to the switch from the 744 to the 777 and BA33 used to fly a LOT of cargo.
 
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RE: WOW BA;10 Seats PER ROW IN 777?!

Sat Jan 13, 2001 6:26 pm

L'Espace180--Quite uncalled for.

Why am I automatically branded as being an "anti-Airbus American" just because I pointed out that the seat widths for the 777 10-abreast and the A340 eight-abreast are the same? They are two completely different aircraft, with two completely different fuselages. You really need to get a grip...and a life.

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RE: WOW BA;10 Seats PER ROW IN 777?!

Sat Jan 13, 2001 6:33 pm

BA are getting rid of their 777 10 abreast by spring 2001. This is as all of the 10 abreast aircraft are used on their routes to the Carribean with the nos BA 4xxx which is operated by JMC Air which is a bad British cahrter carrier. When the agreement ends BA will operate the routes themselves with 9 abreast seating in economy as well as full World traveller Plus, Club World and First Class so it will be a lot more spaced out.
 
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RE: WOW BA;10 Seats PER ROW IN 777?!

Sat Jan 13, 2001 10:08 pm

The 9 abreast Ba 777, will they be configured 3 3 3 or 2 5 2. The latter is the case on UA 777s. I dont like the 2 5 2 especially if you were to find yourself in the middle row among people you dont know. I discussed this with one of the flight attendants...apparently this is the only aircraft configuration that took into account passangers and flight crew preferences .... the 5 row in the middle is apparently prefered by families travelling together ... oh well.