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Alitalia Selects GE For Its 777's

Sat Jan 13, 2001 3:20 am

ROME, Jan 12 (Reuters) - Italian airline Alitalia said on Wednesday it had ordered General Electric engines to power six Boeing 777-200ER wide-body twinjets it ordered last year.

The deal is worth around $240 million at catalogue prices, although engine orders routinely involve heavy discounts.

"The company chose General Electric. The deal was agreed at the same time that the planes were ordered last November. The planes and the engines are all part of the same contract," a company spokesman said.

Alitalia said in November it had an option on a further six Boeing 777-300ERs but had cancelled a planned order for five Boeing 747-400s and an option for another three jumbo jets.

The battle to supply 777 turbofans, the largest aircraft powerplants ever built, has been the fiercest part of the highly competitive aero-engine market.

General Electric's GE90 engine at first performed poorly in the market, but the company had a very good year in 2000, apparently securing contracts for 52 of the 117 Boeing 777s sold, against just 16 for United Technologies Corp unit Pratt & Whitney and 14 for Britain's Rolls-Royce Plc .

Customers have yet to choose engines for 35 777s sold last year.

((Rome newsroom +39 06 8540049, fax +39 6 8540568 rome.newsroom@reuters.com))
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RE: Alitalia Selects GE For Its 777's

Sat Jan 13, 2001 3:55 am

Hello,

This was announced on 9 November 2000, by General Electric Aircraft Engine.

Alitalia has selected the GE90-94B, becoming the second customer for the thrust rating after Air France (already two aircraft with the engines in the fleet).

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RE: Alitalia Selects GE For Its 777's

Sat Jan 13, 2001 5:01 am

I wonder what TEDSKI has to say about this? From the beginning though it was pretty obvious that Alitalia was going to go GE as they are interested in purchasing the 777-300ER and 200LR also.
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RE: Alitalia Selects GE For Its 777's

Sat Jan 13, 2001 5:24 am

Hello CX747,

You were right about the AZ's engine choice. Moreover they've equipped most of their fleet with GE engines.

Maybe TEDSKI will (once again) bring his argument of the composition of fan blades  

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RE: Alitalia Selects GE For Its 777's

Sat Jan 13, 2001 5:36 am

I guess E-Trade is a little slow in getting all of the news out. Oh well.
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B757300

Sat Jan 13, 2001 6:11 am

You might try www.dljdirect and then choose "news all sources" and type in the symbol "BA" (for Boeing of course). There is some good timely news there. It's one of about 4 sources I check about 5 times a day!!
 
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RE: B757300

Sat Jan 13, 2001 9:18 am

Usually E-Trade is pretty good about up to date news but on occasion they seem the suffer a little brain fart. And since I own Boeing stock, all I have to do is go to my portfolio and it will allow me to check the news for any stock I own.
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RE: Alitalia Selects GE For Its 777's

Sat Jan 13, 2001 9:24 am

This is no surprise to me because Alitalia like Air France and Lufthansa has been a big GE customer for some time. Almost all of their aircraft except the MD-80s are CFM56 & CF6 powered. GE gained most of those 777 contracts because of their exclusive engine deal with Boeing on the new 777-200LR & 300ER models.
 
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RE: Alitalia Selects GE For Its 777's

Sat Jan 13, 2001 11:48 pm

Was at a local Borders book store on Thursday night where I came upon a book on the 777. In this book I read about the problems getting the GE90 into service with first customer British Airways. There were also problems with the P&W 4090 and 4098 which delayed deliveries of 777s to Korean Airlines and All Nippon Airways. The only engine that came through with minor problems was the Rolls Royce Trent 800s series. In fact British Airways currently has on it's newer 777s the Trent 895 with 95,000lbs thrust.
 
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RE: Alitalia Selects GE For Its 777's

Sat Jan 13, 2001 11:59 pm

The GE90 has had more problems as it is a completely new engine, whereas the Trent 800 and PW4000 are both upscaled derivates of old designs.

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RE: Alitalia Selects GE For Its 777's

Sun Jan 14, 2001 1:03 am

Hello,

Raggi's argument is 100% right about the GE90 being the only new engine for the Boeing 777.

"In fact British Airways currently has on it's newer 777s the Trent 895 with 95,000lbs thrust."

Any relation with the problems met with the GE90? Any hard evidence?

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RE: Alitalia Selects GE For Its 777's

Sun Jan 14, 2001 1:10 am

Lets hope that there are no problems with the new 115,000lb thrust GE90-115B which will cause delays in deliveries to customers. This is what happened with the RR RB211 engine being the sole powerplant for the L-1011 which delayed deliveries.