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TWA Was My Friend

Mon Jan 15, 2001 11:12 am

Since the news broke of the demise of TWA, I've been flooded with a range of emotions that is like nothing else I've known.

I was introduced to TWA on a flight from MSN to LAS in August of 1996. I managed to endure the TSA flight from MSN to STL, but when I boarded that 727 to LAS, I knew that something was different. I had never been a member of a frequent flyer program, but something compelled me to fill out that FFB card. I simply knew that I had found "my" airline.

Between August 1996 and December 1998, I only flew on TWA. It didn't matter if someone had a lower fare. I knew that I was going to be treated right and for many, including myself, you can't place a value on respect.

At the beginning of 1999, I changed careers. 12 years of traveling was taking its toll on my family. There was one thing I missed about traveling though. I think you know the answer.

My final flight with TWA was an Aviators award. Flew RT from PHX to IND in July 1999. Final leg was on an MD-83 less than 3 weeks old. Never could have imagined then that they wouldn't make it.

To the TWA pilots that let me sit in their seats at the gate I say, "Thank you".

To the CSA's that gave me a first class seat without me asking, "Thank you".

To the countless TWA employees that treated me more like a friend than just another passenger, "Thank you".

Even though I've never lost a best freind, I can only relate my emotions to this type of loss...

I never even got to fly on my namesake.
I'm gonna miss ya', old friend.
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RE: TWA Was My Friend

Mon Jan 15, 2001 11:17 am

I know I am upset too. But maybe, just maybe the final chapter has not yet been written. I found an old article today from 1985 describing the Texas Air takeover of TWA. It was approved by boards of both airlines and appeared to be a definite thing. Six months later it was called off. It just seems TWA can survive anything. Maybe I am hardheaded but I have not given up on them yet.
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RE: TWA Was My Friend

Mon Jan 15, 2001 11:20 am

There are those who scoff at remarks such as this- getting emotionally involved with a company (or an industry). But it happens, and we all know it.

Your comments mirror my thoughts, exactly, when Braniff International failed in 1982. They were my hometown airline, and they were better than the other guys. Seeing those rows of multi-colored jets lined up, silenced, at DFW was tough.

I think you'll find there are many who will salute your sentiments. Count me among these.
...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
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RE: TWA Was My Friend

Mon Jan 15, 2001 11:30 am

Sccutler, thanks for you thoughts.

Something that I forgot to add was that I now understand how many others have felt over the years.

Pan Am, Braniff, PSA, and others...
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RE: TWA Was My Friend

Mon Jan 15, 2001 11:37 am

This is how I felt when we lost Legend. They were a true revolutionary. We didn't have the priveledge of flying them for a very long period of time, but they changed what I expect from air travel PERMANENTLY.

They're comming back, but they aren't flying Love Field to Dulles, so I have no use for them.

They were so special. They treated you right, as a PERSON, not a passenger. When the flight leaving from the next gate was delayed four hours due to fog- an act of God- they bought lunch for everybody from a big name restaurant here in the metroplex.

I can only imagine how it was when Braniff ceased ops. You know, Braniff ceased ops the EXACT day I was born. May 11, 1982. Kinda makes me sad.

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RE: TWA Was My Friend

Mon Jan 15, 2001 12:42 pm

Hey there,
I will be sad as well. I flew them YEARS ago. From Chicago to St. Louis. very nice airline. Also it will be sad to see one of the last great names go to the way side. As Scuttler stated, they might just make it through this and still retain the name. who knows. I for one will be holding my breath. Plus going from that Awsome paint scheme to that horrible Silver out dated image is going to be really sad.

Hope fully TWA will make it somehow.

Safety is Everyones Responsibility.

RE: TWA Was My Friend

Mon Jan 15, 2001 12:48 pm

I am sad to know that I will proabbly never fly TWA in my life. There are many people who hate TWA and there are manmy who adore TWA.

I understand what emotion you are feeling. You are so sad, but yet you feel stupid for falling in love with a company. Its all right. Good luck.

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RE: TWA Was My Friend

Mon Jan 15, 2001 12:53 pm

Well, that's part of the problem...

Who the hell loves a company???

Maybe that makes my point. Not only were they my favorite airline, they were a company that went out of their way to make me feel like part of a family.

I just hope that those who I consider my friends keep their jobs. That's what AA has promised.
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RE: TWA Was My Friend

Mon Jan 15, 2001 1:05 pm

Why don't you go step on a land mine and end your misery once and for all?
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Hey AA737-823-

Mon Jan 15, 2001 1:43 pm

I see from your post that you are saying Legend will not be flying to IAD anymore; what is the source of your information? Unless there has been some very recent news, I believe that their plans explicitly include Dulles, as one of their most successful destinations (along w/ LGA); I know that they are dropping LAS (why fly empty planes), and LAX (disappointing yields);

The following is from their 1/11/01 "Info" release:

We sincerely appreciate your patience as we approach the final steps toward
resuming scheduled service. We are pleased to announce that the Customer
Accommodation Plan has been filed with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court, and is
awaiting approval - the hearing is scheduled for Friday, January 12.

The plan accommodates our customers who were holding Legend tickets and
affected by the airline's temporary cessation of operations. What we
proposed to the Court and our creditors signifies our commitment to earning
back the trust of our loyal and valued customers.

A second Court hearing is scheduled for Tuesday, January 16, which will
determine final approval of the remaining $19 million in funding we have
secured. Following this hearing, we plan to announce both the details of the
Customer Accommodation Plan and the re-start date for New York LaGuardia and
Washington Dulles. We will continue to post new information as it becomes

The entire Legend Airlines team is excited to have the opportunity to once
again serve you. Again, thank you for your patience and continued support,
and we look forward to having you on board soon!

Do you have "fresher" information?
...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
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RE: TWA Was My Friend

Mon Jan 15, 2001 2:49 pm

It's interesting to note that this whole mess involving TWA could very well prove to be the catalyst for Frank Lorenzo squirming back into the airline world as he so desperately wants to. True he will be reminded of his tenure at Texas Air and Eastern, whereupon he can counter by saying "Well at least I didn't run TWA", and even the DOT and DOJ will have to acknowledge that he has a point.
TWA has always been something of an enigma to me. For 4 of the last 12 years, it has been perpetually congratulating itself on being "the turnaround kid".
Yet for some reason a succession of CEO's (Ichan, Erickson, Craib, and the current one) have been unable to produce little more than a new livery. I might even go so far as to say that fuel prices didn't go high enough because if they had, TWA might have been able to cancel any number of flights, thus slowing down its losses. Now when I look back on their "We're up to something good" campaigns, what they were really telling me was: "cllect as much of our parephernelia as possible. It will soon become valuable".
Anyway, getting back to Lorenzo, at least Eastern died a relatively quick death as opposed to the prolonged one exceeding a decade, as TWA had been suffering. When American finally swallows TWA, it will do what it's famous for: butchering airlines and then dismembering the route systems (this is what they did to AirCal and Reno Air), thus leaving STL wide open.
Lorenzo should be able to argue that he is no longer the worst airline CEO in the country. Like I said, if 4 or 5 CEOS TWA went through in 12 years couldn't fix TWA, how can he so bad? Do we really want to focus on such a frivolous technicality-such as labor abuse?
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RE: TWA Was My Friend To

Tue Jan 16, 2001 12:00 am

TWA was my friend to!!! I was introduced to TWA because my America West Flight to Phoenix was cancelled, So they sent me over to TWA and flew me out the next morning.


I had signed up for TWA's Frequent Flyer Miles at the airport before we left. My first flight on TWA!!! I stepped aboard the Awesome, and Clean MD-80!!! The flight was only about half full, So I went ahead and took a window seat just in front of the Coach Bulkhead. The In-Flight service was great!!!!! About halfway through the Flight was when I realized TWA was going to be my airline. We touched down in STL right On-Time. After all passengers exited the aircraft, I took some pictures, talked with the flight Attendants, and they let me sit in the Pilots Seat.

I love STL!!!!! I dont care what anyone says, Its still one of the coolest airports I've ever been to!!!!! I got to see all types of aircraft TWA flew, and Talked to a lot of TWA Employees.

Boeing 757

Now I really loved TWA!!!!! This Boeing 757 was the best I've ever flown on!!!!! TWA's configuration made this 757 seem larger than any other I have flown on. The flight was another great one,a nd the service was wonderful!!!!!! Again I talked with the Flight Attendants for a while, and told them how much I loved TWA, and How much I wanted to fly them again.

Its sad that I have only flown TWA 2 Times. I love TWA!!!!! Its not fair that some No-Good, Texas based airline has to take over them. TWA is a much better airline than Un-American ever will be!!!!!



Matt D

Tue Jan 16, 2001 12:06 am


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RE: TWA Was My Friend

Tue Jan 16, 2001 1:48 am

I'm already grieving today for this great company and source of many personal firsts:
Sight of the grand and graceful Constellation arriving mid-America from LAX
Flight on a jet airliner, B707, flt's. 55 and 56
Flight on a CV880 Las-Alb-Tul
Transcon on a B747
Transcon on L1011's
Compressor stall over LAX (at night, looked like 4th of July fireworks when it backfired); safe and quick return; and then departure on a sister ship (B707)
Flight on B727 with flaps and slates extended for two-hour duration as we crept low and slow to STL and help
View of innovative and elegant terminal architecture at STL and JFK (when they were nice)

Thanks for all the wonderful times and memories, and best wishes to all concerned
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RE: TWA Was My Friend

Tue Jan 16, 2001 2:40 am

Its sad that TWAs once beautiful planes will stripped down and recoated with AA''s paint sceme.

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RE: TWA Was My Friend

Tue Jan 16, 2001 6:11 am

It isn't over till it is over.

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RE: TWA Was My Friend

Tue Jan 16, 2001 11:04 am

Acvitale, I hope you're right...

Anyone see the article in the current "Airliners" magazine regarding the retirement of TWA's 727's? It's pretty good. Man, the "Silver Bullet" was
a good looking bird. Has anyone found any pictures of this plane anywhere?
The "Airliners" article was the first time I had seen it.
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RE: TWA Was My Friend

Tue Jan 16, 2001 5:11 pm

Even though I never once flew TWA reading over these posts makes me feel like one of the many frequent fliers of this great airline.

Knowing American, if everything goes through, my home airport (ANC) will be losing another airline (even if it is one flight/day year-round to PDX and another to STL in summer). American got Reno Air. American was out of the year round ANC market in about a year. Now with TWA it'll probably be the same thing. If I had the money I'd buy a ticket in fly to PDX tonight for the heck of it...   But perhaps this merger will not go through. Hope and pray it doesn't.

RE: TWA Was My Friend

Tue Jan 16, 2001 5:32 pm

I'll just say that Trans World meant very much to me because when my parents got divorced in 1988 (at age 6) it was TWA who transported this unaccompanied minor time and time again between south florida and Manhattan safely, securely, and professionally. And for that I will always be grateful.

Long live the memories of a proud proud airline.
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RE: TWA Was My Friend

Tue Jan 16, 2001 6:20 pm

Although I never actually worked for an airline myself, it seems all the airlines I have a connection with are gone or perhaps will be. My grandfather was a Captain for Eastern Airlines and my father and Mother also worked for Eastern up until the end. Their gone now and it was hard. So we packed up and moved to North Carolina where my dad got on with Piedmont Airliines, DENIED. Okay how about US Airways, Ahh, BUH BYE. Its very sad to see these great airlines wiped out like this and is really hard when your airline is ripped to shreads like Eastern was and US Airways might be.So even though I can say I never actually worked for an airline, I know what you all at TWA and US are going threw. Its becomes more then just a name painted on a aircraft, its a symbol of your hard work. Time changes and we move on once the final logo has been removed. it's sad, but eventually a new airline will catch your attention and deliver a hint of that special something you thought was gone forever. I have been lucky to have found that with a whole new airline which I am very excited for. Only this time I feel better that no one related to me is working there.

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