ywg777
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AA New Transborder Routes For 2001

Tue Jan 16, 2001 4:40 am

What are your predictions for AA new routes for this year? Do you think more doemstic, transborder or International routes
My predictions:
ORD- YEG
ORD-YWG
BOS-YHZ
BOS-YOW
MIA-YVR
DFW-YEG
DFW-YWG
SFO-YYC
LAX-YVR
those are my predictions. what do you think?
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RE: AA New Transborder Routes For 2001

Tue Jan 16, 2001 4:57 am

AA will probably have their hands full with the TWA integration so I can't see Canada being too high on their list. That said, perhaps we can see improved service to St. Louis once things shake out. YYZ, YVR and YUL to start (or improve - I don't know TWA's current status in these cities). As for your predictions, I like : BOS-YHZ/YOW, MIA-YVR, and LAX-YVR. As for the others I can't see them being high on the list. YEG/YWG wouldn't generate enough traffic to DFW/ORD (OK maybe Eagle could make YWG-ORD work) and YYC-SFO is well served by United/AC, and I don't think AA has a big presence there to feed. Maybe they will try SJC-YVR/YYC since they are re-establishing a bit of a hub there. My guess is nothing until after the merger.
 
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RE: AA New Transborder Routes For 2001

Tue Jan 16, 2001 8:37 am

Well AA or better put American Eagle already is flying some of the routes mentioned. When AmEagle picked up Business Express they got the Bos-YHZ and the BOS-YOW. Right now they are opperated with Saab 340b but the rummor mill says that atleast the BOS-YHZ is goign to be jet soon. It's well over and hour and thirty minitues on the Saab. I'm a FA with Eagle and actually last week I did the YHZ flight out of BOs and the overnight...cool city.
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RE: AA New Transborder Routes For 2001

Tue Jan 16, 2001 8:44 am

DFW-YEG maybe has a chance, because of oil (Exxon having its HQ in Irving)
DFW-YWG not a chance. ORD-YWG with AE is more likely.
LAX-YVR has a chance, but before they do that, they will probably start, like someone said earlier, SJC-YVR or SJC-YYC. Put your money on SJC-YVR, though, as CP operated the route for AA twice daily with a Fokker F.28, so maybe you could see two daily Fokker 100's or two daily ERJ's on the route.
Sorry, but I do not think Miami-YVR is such a big priority for them. In the summer it might work, as it connects the two big Cruise ship ports, but is that enough to carry the route? I doubt it.
 
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RE: AA New Transborder Routes For 2001

Tue Jan 16, 2001 10:44 am

I can't see AE doing YWG-ORD simply because Air Canada does that route in CRJ's. I would rather AA go for the bigger plane on that route. I can see a YOW-MIA possible working. Will AE or AA serve YEG and YWG? Plus can a ERJ fit into a Jetway?
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RE: AA New Transborder Routes For 2001

Tue Jan 16, 2001 2:26 pm

Are you sure AC operates CRJs west of Ontario? Or things had changed since I last took note?
 
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RE: AA New Transborder Routes For 2001

Tue Jan 16, 2001 2:44 pm

I think that if AA does augment its San Jose (SJC)- Canada operations it will be with 737s or MD80s. This is solely because as far as I know AE's operations at SJC are minimal, and there are NO regional jets there now. I would expect that eventually (maybe not this year) these routes will be put in to place though. I believe AA is planing on adding a daily 777 to Gatwick, and another one to CDG, along with its existing Narita route. With Europe, Asia, California, New York, Boston, Las Vegas, Dallas, etc already in the books for SJC on AA, why not Canada?
 
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RE: AA New Transborder Routes For 2001

Wed Jan 17, 2001 8:33 am

I hope AA expands its network into central Canada and North Dakota. That would be nice to compete in Fargo. Also I hope to see YWG in the works this year
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RE: Lubicon

Wed Jan 17, 2001 8:36 am

TWA currently flies to YVR and YYZ from STL.
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DFW - Edmonton?

Wed Jan 17, 2001 1:05 pm

They used to have that - one stop via Calgary. But Edmonton has no oil. Besides the merger, AA still has some bubbling labor unrest to take care of. That's why their growth has dropped to near zero...
 
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RE: AA New Transborder Routes For 2001

Wed Jan 17, 2001 1:47 pm

TWA doesn't serve YYZ themselves. Chataqua operates taht route from STL using ERJ.
 
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RE: AA New Transborder Routes For 2001

Thu Jan 18, 2001 2:54 am

You guys all missed the one route that has the best possibility: YVR-ORD. That route, to my knowledge, still has no AA presence. I believe this is the only one of the major hub routes CP operated and AA didn't, and now without CP feed AA doesn't have access to that traffic, so I wouldn't be too surprised to see AA add YVR-ORD.

As for the rest of those ideas, well, I really doubt we'll see much of them (apart from those that are actually already in operation) although I do see YEG-DFW as an eventuality (YYC-DFW is doing very well, and YEG is definitely a major Canadian oilwell/petrochemical centre, although more in the actual working sense than the head-office sense). YWG-ORD might eventually get Eagle, but most of the rest of them don't have much chance.

The TWA question could be interesting. Doesn't both AA and TWA have some sort of focus-city sort of idea at SJU? I wonder if that could develop into a hub?

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