fly_yhm
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Westjet Going To YYZ

Tue Jan 23, 2001 1:54 am

Good news for people who dont like YHM and bad news for me and people who do Westjet going to YYZ flying yyz-yyc according to there website this will be the first route the 737-700 are going to be put on Why the hell they would do this is beyond me I think its going to screw up things at yhm with them just last week them announcing yhm-yyc They still claim to have there main eastern hub at yhm but I will not be suprised to see them build up at yyz a lot I guess yhm get screwed over again.

Im starting to really hate yyz(and maybe westjet soon)
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RE: Westjet Going To YYZ

Tue Jan 23, 2001 2:02 am

Here's the article

WestJet Announces Service to Toronto's Pearson International Airport

CALGARY, Alberta. January 22, 2001. WestJet Airlines today announced its intentions to commence service to Toronto's Pearson International Airport in July 2001. The low-fare airline intends to offer service from Toronto to Calgary non-stop twice daily, with connections from Calgary to many of its other western cities.

Further details of WestJet's schedule and fares will be released in early February, pending the finalized discussions with the Greater Toronto Airport Authority (GTAA). However, the airline has confirmed that it will operate this route as a result of its acquisitions of the new generation Boeing 737-700 aircraft. Hamilton will continue to be the major Ontario hub on the WestJet network, providing connections east and west. The Toronto to Calgary non-stop service will commence as a connection only to its western route network.

Clive Beddoe, WestJet's President and Chief Executive Officer, said today that "The commencement of this new service to Toronto in July will coincide with the arrival of our first new generation Boeing 737-700 aircraft. These aircraft are designed to fly both short and long haul routes with increased fuel efficiency, speed and comfort. WestJet remains focused on the successful low cost, low-fare strategy of our mentor Southwest Airlines, who has evolved as a result of its new aircraft acquisitions by similarly expanding its stage length. The net results for Southwest were growing passenger volumes and a generation of record earnings.

"Today's announcement shows our continued adherence to this successful model. As we grow, these new aircraft will allow us to spread our wings across Canada and successfully operate a mix of short and long haul flights. This is an exciting time for WestJet, entering this new market, and taking the next steps along this proven path for success."

WestJet Airlines currently serves the 16 Canadian cities of Victoria, Vancouver, Abbotsford/Fraser Valley, Prince George, Kelowna, Calgary, Edmonton, Grande Prairie, Fort McMurray, Saskatoon, Regina, Winnipeg, Thunder Bay, Hamilton, Ottawa and Moncton with a fleet of 22 Boeing 737-200 aircraft. WestJet will commence service to Comox on March 3 and will offer Limited Addition service to Brandon March 6 to May 31, 2001. WestJet is publicly traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange under the symbol WJA.

 
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RE: Westjet Going To YYZ

Tue Jan 23, 2001 2:12 am

That's great news for Torontonians.  Big thumbs up
 
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Fly YHM

Tue Jan 23, 2001 3:32 am

>>Why the hell they would do this is beyond me I think its going to screw up things at yhm

Obviously WestJet figures a flight to YYZ would make money for them or they wouldn't do this, I don't think this will have any effect on YHM so don't jump to conclusions.

>>Im starting to really hate yyz(and maybe westjet soon)

are you a 2 year old? What difference does it make to you? Obviously YHM is smaller but do you actually fly WestJet frequently or do you just like to see them at your home airport? Hamilton is no most airlines' choice destination for the GTA, it's not too close to Toronto which I would figure Westjet wants to tap into considering they have built up YHM fairly quickly. It's terminal is absolutely tiny, no jetways which isn't that big of a deal but if you figure WestJet is going to be building a hub in YHM, don't you figure the current terminal couldn't handle that? Look at how slowly they are expanding in the east as compared to what everyone thought when they announced service to YHM... Quite an immature opinion that you hate YYZ, you tell me what airport you fly out of the most ,YHM or YYZ or even BUF?

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RE: Westjet Going To YYZ

Tue Jan 23, 2001 3:34 am

I had actually expected to see this eventually, although I had thought they'd wait a little longer before going into YYZ. Basically they're trying to get the market share before too many other carriers move in (QN is starting YYZ-YYC soon...), and they're also trying ot be as accessible to as many people as possible. They already fly to both Abbotsford and Vancouver (and Victoria is nearby, too), so there's precedent for 2-airport service like this. And for that matter, Greyhound used to do it too, so as I said I'm not that surprised...

And I really don't think you have to worry about the future of WJ at YHM. I don't think you stand to lose any service, and I think WJ will continue to grow there. In fact, YYZ service might actually help out, as more people would take the WJ option - people who ordinarily wouldn't have gone to YHM to try it - and may like it well enough to be lured into trying YHM, as well.
 
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AC183

Tue Jan 23, 2001 3:56 am

Well said!

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RE: Westjet Going To YYZ

Tue Jan 23, 2001 4:33 am

I didn't think WJ would end up serving YYZ so soon! That'll be interesting. Will Air Canada try starting a fare war? But then again, WJ's service shouldn't be so surprising, as AC183 said. Think about the market size in the Toronto area. Not to mention Roots Air about go on the YYC-YYZ route soon. WJ initially chose to stay away from YYZ mainly because of high landing fees and not wanting to butt heads with AC.

I don't know how CanJet will be affected, since CanJet doesn't fly out West and that WJ doesn't appear to plan to use YYZ as a springboard to other routes in Eastern Canada.
 
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RE: Westjet Going To YYZ

Tue Jan 23, 2001 5:27 am

I am a bit surprised about this as well. I hope YHM doesn't loose any flights because of it. I think there is going to be a MAJOR price war between AC,WJ,CJ,C3,QN,Roots air and TS. All of them fly west of YYZ. I think Westjet has a bone to pick with AC. Any idea which terminal they will use?
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RE: Westjet Going To YYZ

Tue Jan 23, 2001 5:29 am

Should be T3 which makes T3 a more interesting place for viewers! Provided that you bought a ticket  Smile
 
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RE: Westjet Going To YYZ

Tue Jan 23, 2001 5:41 am

Will be T3 for sure, I don;t think Air Canada would let them into their terminals. Also WJ has gate access at YYZ/T3 already, they have had it there since they started flying YHM in case of emergancy or diversion from YHM.
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RE: Westjet Going To YYZ

Tue Jan 23, 2001 8:17 am

Any recent info on Roots Air? I haven't heard anything for a long long time.
 
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RE: Westjet Going To YYZ

Tue Jan 23, 2001 8:45 am

No new news on RootsAir but...they have been going through all the legalities. They have secured licences to operate within Canada and to the US. Licences are issued under the Skyservice and/or RootsAir names. An A320 is also supposed to arrive within the next few months.
 
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RE: Westjet Going To YYZ

Tue Jan 23, 2001 8:54 am

C-GRYK
I know that sounds bad but I have atways hated YYZ just because they are airline hogs basically and as for yhm and yyz being close yes they are but I can give you a lot of example of where there are major metro area with more that one airport ie: Chicago has MDW and ORD The Baltimore Washington Area has IAD and BWI NYC ( a couple million more but they have NWR LGA and JFK )btw the terminal is small but its was built to handle like 3/4 of a million people and I dont know if you have ever been to yhm but the airport sits in the middle of a big feild so if the airport has the money they could build a terminal as big as they want which should come soon but it just is a little frustrating for me I hope AC Lite will still come to YYZ. I you can think what ever you want you say they will make money out of yyz sure they will but I think yhm would bring in more because they are the only ones there at yyz you have Air Canada Air Transat Royal Roots Air soon people complain that there is too much congestion 2.1 million people live closer to yhm that yyz why dont they split up the flights just imagin how much less congetion where would be its just like the highway system in the gta drive on the 401 almost any time of day there are like 8 lanes either way in some spots and its solid traffic. I went to NYC a few years ago and the had one road going into the city 3 lanes either way and the traffic was nothing like the GTA same with D.C. its because of bad planning. I dont want to hear anybody complaining about Delays could you imagin NWR and LGA closing ans all the flight going out of JFK(good Luck) or MDW closing and all that extra traffic going to ORD. YOu see my point?
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RE: Westjet Going To YYZ

Tue Jan 23, 2001 9:25 am

just been thinking this could end up being better than worse especially if other airlines see that westjet if flying from yhm and yyz they might consider it toomayb see Royal or C3 or AT so I guess I just needed to look at it more positive.
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RE: Westjet Going To YYZ

Tue Jan 23, 2001 11:07 am

fly_yhm: PLEASE!!!! Comparing the golden horseshoe to the New York area??? That city has more people living in it's greater area then we have living in our entire country.
If you are expecting YHM to become the LGA, of or Newark, with comparable service and traffic then you are in a dream world. The reason that WJ chose to serve YYZ on a direct route from the west was because this way they can corner the market, they already have calgary service via YQT, and YWG, from YHM, adding to the service with YYC-YYZ will not take away from YHM's services, infact it may add to it. IF WJ becomes popular in Toronto with the Toronto flight then people will be inclined to use it again on other flights, and therefore taking advantage of YHM flights. What would be interesting to see is WJ providing a service between the two airports with either a small plane or helicopter much like Air Canada used to have a service from LBPIA to downtown toronto.
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RE: Westjet Going To YYZ

Tue Jan 23, 2001 11:12 am

I'm scared to try YHM! Any city that manages to elect Sheila Copps again and again definetly has problems...  Smile
 
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YXDfan

Tue Jan 23, 2001 11:31 am

RIGHT ON!!!!!! HEHEHEHEHEHEH...mind you TO is not much better......
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RE: Westjet Going To YYZ

Tue Jan 23, 2001 12:21 pm

Wow, WJ into Toronto! I sure hope that this move turns out to be as well planned as all their previous expansions. Does anyone know how many 737-700's will make up the first delivery of these aircraft. Plus, they must be hiring a lot of new people to handle this expansion? Any former or present CP, AC employees moving over to WJ?
 
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RE: Westjet Going To YYZ

Tue Jan 23, 2001 2:44 pm

Slawko: You must not have read the whole thing If memory serves me correct which it usually does I put in brackets plus a coule million extra I dont know exactly how many people live in NYC but I know the GH has about 7.5million which if you ask me is not bad, and about 2.5million of them live in the YHM catchment area An now that I have thought more about it I do realize that more than likely YHM will benifit I think this was just more of a shock to me than any thing BTW the NYC thing was just an example and as far as im concerned once the Airport highway to YHM is complete there are going to be some big changes happening back in the early 90s SW was going to fly into yhm but there was no direct highway access so they said no.
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