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NWA DC9, How Long?

Thu Jan 25, 2001 10:48 am

Hi, this has probably been talked about before, but i coudln't find the topic. I was just wondering how much longer NWA plans on keeping their DC9's. That is about the only NW aircraft we get here. And they fly from FSD to MSP (25 min flight). I love this plane. And if they are going out soon, what would you think NW would replace them with on this route? NW flies this route to MSP about 15-20 times a day. Do you think they would replace it with a bigger plane, cutting the number of flights down?

Well, I hope you can tell me when these planes are supose to be leaving, what you think they will replace the route with.
 
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RE: NWA DC9, How Long?

Thu Jan 25, 2001 11:21 am

The DC-9's are supposedly being slowly replaced by the RJ85's. So, I would expect NW to use the RJ's on the close, smaller markets like FSD, CID, DSM, RST, LSE, etc. It wouldn't be very economical to use the A319/A320 on these routes. However, the A319/A320 will replace the D95's and 727's in larger cities like MCI and OMA, since these markets can fill the 'buses.
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RE: NWA DC9, How Long?

Thu Jan 25, 2001 11:48 am

They will all be gone by 2006. The replacement will keep us guessing till then.

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RE: NWA DC9, How Long?

Thu Jan 25, 2001 11:51 am

Why don't they just go with the 717? Why aren't all the airlines that had or have DC-9's switching over to it?
 
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RE: NWA DC9, How Long?

Thu Jan 25, 2001 11:57 am

I think RJs are a pretty good replacement for 9s. NWA just started operating DC9 from AZO to DTW in addition to Saab 340s and BAe 146 avrojet very nice airplanes but they actually fly under Mesabas colors, about 100 mile trip, 25 min flight. I ll be hitching a ride on one soon.
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RE: NWA DC9, How Long?

Thu Jan 25, 2001 5:22 pm

Quick question about the avros or RJ 85/100 i am all confused on this one. Is the Avro series the next generation of the BAe146? Is it the exact same plane as the BAe146??? If so, why the name difference. I've seen it called both. Northwest calls theirs Avros, while over in Europe Air France's regional affiliate (Jersey European?) operates their Lyon-LHR route (which i flew on bout 8 months ago) with a BAe-146. could somebody clarify?
 
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RE: NWA DC9, How Long?

Fri Jan 26, 2001 12:16 am

You will hear the RJ85 called many different things... In the ATC field, many of us use "BAC-jet" when referring to them. In actuality, the RJ85 is a different/updated version of the -146.

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RE: NWA DC9, How Long?

Fri Jan 26, 2001 12:42 am

The DC9-10 (about 10 aircraft) are the only ones being replaced by the RJ85.

The -30,40, 50 replacement is yet to be announced, but I assume the -40 and -50 will be the A319.

The -30 is going to be the A318 or 717 most likely. With NW's openly enthusiatic push for fleet commonality it will probably be the A318 even though it is a little less economic to run than the 717.
 
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RE: NWA DC9, How Long?

Fri Jan 26, 2001 1:11 am

NWs DC9s will not be replaced by ARJs. Wont happen. I feel the A319 A320 will be the replacements for all the 9s.

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RE: NWA DC9, How Long?

Fri Jan 26, 2001 1:59 am

**NWs DC9s will not be replaced by ARJs. Wont happen. I feel the A319 A320 will be the replacements for all the 9s.**

It would be great if they would, but why would NWA do that? Replacing the -9's with the A319/A320 on short-haul, smaller-markets would be a waste of $$$.

Save the A319/A320 for long-range "thin" markets like: GEG, BOI, ABQ, COS, and for short-haul, higher capacity markets like MCI, OMA, MSN, and GRR.
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RE: NWA DC9, How Long?

Fri Jan 26, 2001 2:05 am

there will be NO MORE RJ-85'S delivered to mesaba...therefore how can they replace any dc-9s...they have replaced dc-9s on some markets, but thats it...a-318 is highly unlikely due to the location of the engine to the jetbridge--just wont work..look for maybe crj900/717-100??? who knows at this point it wont happen for awhile...
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RE: NWA DC9, How Long?

Fri Jan 26, 2001 2:55 am

Maybe by the time the 9's are gone, the bigger Fairchild RJs will fit into the equation.
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RE: NWA DC9, How Long?

Fri Jan 26, 2001 4:13 am

The A318 would be fine with jetbridges.....

Right I know there are no more Rj85s to be delivered....they have been replacing the DC9-10s is what I meant.

The remaining -10s will probably be replaced with a -30 size plane (A318/717).
 
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RE: NWA DC9, How Long?

Fri Jan 26, 2001 5:17 am

What ever happened to their MD-80s? Why did they get rid of them? Those aircraft would have been useful on the DTW to ALB route instead of the old DC-9-30s.
 
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RE: NWA DC9, How Long?

Fri Jan 26, 2001 9:50 am

NWA747-400---A318 WILL NOT WORK W/JETWAY -- THE ENGINES ARE TO FWD----LOOK AT THE SPECS--ITS BEEN STATED FOR QUITE AWHILE...HOPE THAT HELPS--
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RE: NWA DC9, How Long?

Fri Jan 26, 2001 11:34 am

We withdrew the MD-80's from the fleet sometime around October of 1999 as there were not that many of them. If memory serves me correctly, there were only about 10 to 15 MD-80's in our fleet. I'm going out on a limb here, but I do believe they were replaced by the Airbus A320.

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RE: Iflewrepublic

Fri Jan 26, 2001 1:05 pm

Very close Iflewrepublic...they were replaced by NW's first batch of A319s.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: N-dub DC-9

Fri Jan 26, 2001 1:28 pm

Im putting my money on 318s or 319s. I personally have never heard of A318 jetway problems. I some how doubt the 717 will be a replacement. Northwest and its pilots are quite fond of the 320 series for the most part.
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RE: NWA DC9, How Long?

Fri Jan 26, 2001 5:04 pm

Thank you.
 
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RE: NWA DC9, How Long?

Sat Jan 27, 2001 6:58 am

Yes, thank you all for your responses.
 
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A318 Jetway Problems...

Sat Jan 27, 2001 7:16 am

Now that i think about it..the Avro RJ's (those 4 engined mini- C-5 looking planes) have an even shorter front section than the 318...and those things are parked all over the jetways at MEM...which are standard jetways. Not to mention all hte CRJs are parked at jetways too. There is no reason why a 318 could not use a jetway.
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RE: NWA DC9, How Long?

Sat Jan 27, 2001 8:08 am

Exactly
 
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RE: NWA DC9, How Long?

Sat Jan 27, 2001 9:08 am

rj85 engines are further back than the proposed 318---the 319 is really close and the design ive seen in msp shows clearly that the jetway would be over the top of the cowl...and also no forward cargo bin on 318....the jetways on a crj has nothing to do with a 318..apples to oranges..
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RE: NWA DC9, How Long?

Sat Jan 27, 2001 11:29 am

If the Rjs can workwith the jetways, then the A318s will have no problem.

Thanks.
 
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RE: NWA DC9, How Long?

Sun Jan 28, 2001 1:07 am

If Northwest goes for the A318, what engine will they go for? The CFM56 like Air France did, or the P&W 6000?