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Spirit (NK) Or Airtran (FL)

Fri Jan 26, 2001 9:33 am

I and a group of 10 or so people will be traveling to MIA or FLL in a few months. We don't have too much to spend on airfares, so we want a low fare carrier. I need to choose between Spirit or Airtran. I know more about Airtran, but Spirit???? Are they safe, what history do they have? I don't really know, but right now I don't like Airtran after the recent fire incidents. (Critter 592 anyone?)
 
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RE: Spirit (NK) Or Airtran (FL)

Fri Jan 26, 2001 9:52 am

Hello, personally both are equal, Spirit's only setback is the amount of recent flight cancellations. Spirit has recently been over scheduling its flight crews creating a lack of pilots as they run out of flying hours i guess so the airline had to cancel flights. Their are always the AirTran fires but all of them have been succesfully contained and AirTran knows what there doing just like Delta would...So i would go with the lower fare, btw, where are you flying from?
-Tony
Why would God make us all so different, if He wanted us to be the same?
 
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RE: Spirit (NK) Or Airtran (FL)

Fri Jan 26, 2001 9:59 am

I will be flying from MDW on FL,
or ORD on NK.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Spirit (NK) Or Airtran (FL)

Fri Jan 26, 2001 10:47 am

Doesn't ATA fly from MDW to FLL? Why don't you just take them? I would certainly place them a cut above Airtran or Spirit in service quality and reliability.

--Bill
 
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RE: Spirit (NK) Or Airtran (FL)

Fri Jan 26, 2001 10:58 am

I'm even more confused. The poster's screen name is Amtran727, so must be familiar with ATA. ATA has 3 round-trips a day to FLL from MDW, and offers group discounts, too. What gives? Why not just fly a nice Amtran 727, Amtran727?

--Bill
 
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RE: Spirit (NK) Or Airtran (FL)

Fri Jan 26, 2001 11:12 am

LOL, Wjcandee.
I am well aware of ATA's 3 flights.
Owing to my experience with them, I sugessted them to the group leader (which I am not), and he said "We can't, it's too expensive (280 = he's a cheeeep guy; wanting 140!!). He told me to look into NK and FL; and I'm looking for information on them.

ATA's first daily flight is a 752, and the other two are 722's.
Anyone else have an opinion?
 
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RE: Spirit (NK) Or Airtran (FL)

Fri Jan 26, 2001 12:00 pm

I think MDW to ATL is on the new 717, so you should not have any problems with these new aircraft. It is the DC-9's that are catching on fire. I have a few reports on the fires in my DC-9 club on Yahoo. ATL to MIA or FLL will probably be on the DC-9.
 
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RE: Spirit (NK) Or Airtran (FL)

Fri Jan 26, 2001 12:22 pm

You couldn't pay me to fly AirTran.

You can say whatever you want to: "They are held to the same standards as American, Delta or United..." or... let's see.... "Those are great old DC-9s there flying, very reliable and very well maintained..."

Well, here are my arguments.

If they were being held to the same standards, Atlanta iInternational Airport wouldn't have scrubbed down that burnt up DC-9 now, would they? Who has heard of an AIRPORT cleaning an airplane after it has nearly been destroyed? And AirTran had a part in that, too, don't doubt.

Maintained just like any other airline? I don't see Northwest's DC-9's limping back to a runway with smoke and flame trailing behind.

Now, I would probably get on a FL 717. But one has to wonder- if they can't keep fire away from one plane, what's the difference? Sure, the 717 is newer and the wires aren't NEARLY as corroded et cetera, but still... If you buy a new car and the only thing you ever do to it is add gasoline, it's not gonna last very long.

That's my opinion, shoot it down if you want to.

But remember- four FL fires in four months is pretty bad, and I believe that figure is correct.

Randy

P.S.- I thought Spirit was having major financial woes??? Consider United- they usually have great airfares, but I don't know about group discounts....

They are based at ORD though.

That may help.

Right now, United's site is down. I will try again later. Being a Mileage Plus member I have the ability to query United for airfares- and they will even tell me other airlines lower prices.

Randy
 
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RE: Spirit (NK) Or Airtran (FL)

Fri Jan 26, 2001 12:34 pm

If there are no changes you could go 717 all the way. This would be a great oppertunity to welcome you and the others to the wonderful service of airtran.
Flt 821 MDW-ATL is a 717 leave there @ 10am
connect in atlanta to flight 190 also a 717. If you have not expereinced the 717, its a must. It is truley a people pleasing airplane. The cabin is almost completly silent, the takeoffs are extremly swift, and the interior is plesently bright and welcoming, you get 100% fresh air, not the recyled stuff that gives you hypoxia on a 757  Smile there will always be airtran bashers in this forum... im not even going to tread on that.

Thanks for your support
 
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Found Fares

Fri Jan 26, 2001 12:34 pm

Okay, well United's server is telling me that American is cheaper, and AA is as low as $184 EACH WAY based on ROUND TRIP. i.e. you only get that fare if you fly round trip, but you have to multiply it by two...

So, so much for United or AA.

Ahh, but now UA is telling me more about Delta. By the way, this is ORD-MIA. And Delta won't non stop you, but they'll route you thru Atlanta.

Okay, they are telling me $128 one way, times two again.

So, go with AirTran if you want to. But your boss shouldn't be so cheap. I mean, if it's a church or Red Cross or non profit org, I understand. Otherwise, cough up the dough!!!!

Randy
 
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RE: Found Fares/AA737-823

Fri Jan 26, 2001 1:04 pm

Thanks for checking, but as you said

"Go with AirTran if you want to. But your boss shouldn't be so cheap. I mean, if it's a church or Red Cross or non profit org, I understand. Otherwise, cough up the dough!!!!"
The BSA is a non-profit organiation as you will understand! We can't afford $400 a person R/T, and even ATA is a bit high, especially with that new training center to be biult near MDW! I do believe I will go with Airtran as of now, but the Dates are 6/22 to 6/29, no exeptpions. Another thing... FL's website lists July, but doesent allow bookings in July??? I though it was allowed 331 days in advance? Anyone know why?
When I last flew Airtran, Great Service, but it was during the 1998 snowstorm. For me, it was exclusuvely DC-9's - - among those I flew all former ValuJet machines, and A very nice flight!
Only now having heard of the fires, it is still questionable.
 
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RE: Spirit (NK) Or Airtran (FL)

Fri Jan 26, 2001 1:43 pm

Not to give up on ATA: ATA has a group sales department. They define a group as 10 or more people, so you just qualify. Call them at 1-800-543-3715 and see what you can negotiate.

--Bill
 
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RE: Spirit (NK) Or Airtran (FL)

Fri Jan 26, 2001 2:05 pm

Well, here's how it plays out. Airtran will be more expensive (122 out, 188 back) than ATA, which is 134.50 each way (although maybe cheaper if you go as a group). Airtran: 310 pp r/t. ATA $269 pp r/t. Spirit is cheaper but has had reliability problems. They are $230 each way. If I were the parents of those kids you are taking, I would sure not want them to be making a connection. I sure would rather have them on a more reliable airline like ATA; it's well worth the extra $39 for your kid's safety and peace of mind. As I said before, though, you may be able to bargain ATA down to the Spirit fare if you come as a group. These are all pretty good fares: the best I could get on Hotwire for those dates (and remember, those tickets are totally nonrefundable and nonchangeable; you don't fly, you don't get any money back or any transferable value, and you don't get to choose the flight time, although you will be on a major carrier) was $214 r/t plus fees, ORD-FLL, which is, in my view, not worth it given how far out you are planning.

--Bill
 
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RE: Spirit (NK) Or Airtran (FL)

Fri Jan 26, 2001 2:08 pm

Ooops... make that "Spirit is $230 r/t, ATA is $269 r/t". I don't know where you got 400 per person. With a group, a connection is a hassle. Been there. Done that. Wouldn't do it again.

--Bill
 
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RE: Spirit (NK) Or Airtran (FL)

Fri Jan 26, 2001 10:28 pm

Thanks to everyone...
Yeah, that is what I've been told by the parents, NO CONNECTIONS, so we've got TZ, NK, AA, UA, and US Metrojet Direct service, but those are too l ate in the day. Last time I checked AA, it was over $500 R/T, and based on what you said, AA737-823, a little less than $400 after the fees. We'll make a connection if we have to. btw, An ATA phone rep told me that their group policy was that the 25th person travels free! I can't even imagine having that many people. I Hate to speak against my favorite airline, but, that needs to be changed, and their fare are a little high.

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