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Pan Am Flights To Brazil

Sun Jan 28, 2001 9:32 am

Before Pan Am went bankrupt what kind of planes and routes was Pan Am flying to Brazil? Was it only Rio or did Pan Am service Sao Paulo too? I would like to know the routes and gateways pan am used to Brazil.
 
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RE: Pan Am Flights To Brazil

Sun Jan 28, 2001 9:47 am

They were flying to GRU with 747s when they went bankrupt.
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RE: Pan Am Flights To Brazil

Sun Jan 28, 2001 10:21 am

In the 80s, Pan Am served Rio and Sao Paulo from New York and Miami with 747s. Flights continued on to other South American destinations, such as Buenos Aires and Montevideo.

Just before bankruptcy in 1991, PA also served Recife from Miami, first with a nonstop A310 service, and then with an A300, stopping in Caracas.
 
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RE: Pan Am Flights To Brazil

Sun Jan 28, 2001 11:23 am

N202PA, you are correct. Man, I cannot say how much I miss seeing those two nice PA 747's parked at Rio awaiting their nightly departures to MIA nad JFK. I had flown those 747's on those flights so many times, well times change...actually, if you go to Rio and you get a chance to see the arrivals/departures board(yes...one of those cool ones that flip, not the digital ones), you can still see Pan Am is still on there...don't know why they haven't taken it down.
 
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RE: Pan Am Flights To Brazil

Sun Jan 28, 2001 3:19 pm

RIO:

I've gotta agree--it's really sad that PA no longer reaches to Brazil...such a beautiful country, one that has a special place in PA and American aviation history. Pan Am pioneered the operation of flights to and through Brazil, after purchasing the NYRBA line (New York, Rio and Buenos Aires) in the early '30s.

One of my own special memories is flying on a PA 747 in Clipper Class from New York to Rio--beautiful flight and extraordinary service. The way it worked back then in the late 80s is that the flight would depart JFK in the mid-evening, fly all night, and get in around the early morning.

The fact that the Pan Am name is still on the flip board down there says something powerful about the Pan Am name as a marketing tool in many parts of hte world. Back in '96, when I last visited Trinidad, a faded PA billboard still stood on a hillside as we drived up through the central part of the island. It's rather sad that those who own and run PA III are unable to use the PA name as anything more than a domestic name, no better than Southwest, AirTran, Vanguard, etc. If only they could get the slots they need in international destinations, they'd be able to exploit the incredible brand recognition that still exists with the Pan Am name and Clipper logo after all this time. Perhaps they should start charter service with the 722's.

Maybe the new Pan Am will come back to Brazil some day...but I doubt it.

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