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AA & TWA Fleets

Mon Jan 29, 2001 1:07 am

Any ideas what aircraft will American keep from TWA's
fleets after the sale is completed?? I think the DC-9s & 717 will not be retained. Also, do TWA's 757s have RR engines like AA?? I'm new here, so I'm feeling my way around right now. Thanks in advance.
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RE: AA & TWA Fleets

Mon Jan 29, 2001 2:04 am

TWA's 757s have Pratt and Whitney Engines. Will AA give the 757s to another airline like Delta who have 757s equipped with P&W engines???? AA will probably keep the 717 (who knows?) since AA loves the MD-80.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy hope that helps

RE: AA & TWA Fleets

Mon Jan 29, 2001 2:15 am

American might trade the TWA P&W 2000 powered 757s to United in return for the RR RB211 powered US Airways 757s.
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RE: AA & TWA Fleets

Mon Jan 29, 2001 2:40 am

AA will not keep the 717's. The DC9's may stay around for a while but will likely be quickly phased out. No decision has been made on the 75's. Most likely they will keep them. As par of the UA/US/AA three way deal AA will already get US RR powered 75's
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RE: AA & TWA Fleets

Mon Jan 29, 2001 2:43 am

Aren't the US 757s very old, relatively. I thought they were some of the first off prodiction line, seems like kind of a unfair trade.

RE: AA & TWA Fleets

Mon Jan 29, 2001 2:45 am

Why wouldn't AA keep the 717? Slightly bigger than the Fokker 100, and I believe it has commonality with the cockpit of the MD-80, which AA has 260 of.

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RE: AA & TWA Fleets

Mon Jan 29, 2001 7:37 am

AA has stated it has no intention of keeping the 717. It also does NOT have cockpit comonality with the MD-80, it has an all new 6-screen EFIS flight deck.
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RE: AA & TWA Fleets

Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:20 am

Actually, American has not publically stated whether or not they will keep the 717 fleet.
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RE: AA & TWA Fleets

Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:42 am

I sure hope that AA keeps the 717s... great aircraft, and the loss of the TWA order would be a big blow to the program. Boeing should beg -- and I mean beg -- AA to keep that fleet on...
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RE: AA & TWA Fleets

Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:45 am

AA will not get rid of the Fokker 100s anytime soon, so, if you think the 717 has a chance with AA, you are wrong.

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RE: AA & TWA Fleets

Mon Jan 29, 2001 1:47 pm

I hope not, F100 gets no respect but I love them......
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RE: AA To Get Some Usair Aircraft

Mon Jan 29, 2001 2:05 pm

Ok this is what I read.

First of all American has 284 +/- Md-80's, they gained an extra 24 from Reno Air + a couple of MD-90's which may have been phased out, I don't know.

For the F-100 fan here, as part of the merger plans between USAIR and United and the TWA/AA it gets kind of confusing with AA actually getting some of USairway's aircraft.

What I recall reading a while back was that American would keep the MD-80's from TWA and grab the TWA 757's. No word on the 717's (best advice would be to sell/lease them to AirTran) No word on where the 767's would go either (but I want to say United as part of a cross deal)

As for the USairway aircraft American wants their F100s and MD-80s. The USairway A319/20 and some newer 737s along with 757 and remaining 767's would go to United as I recall. The older 737 and a lot of the commuter fleet would go to start up airlines Potomac Air(?) and DC Air.

No one quote me, I don't have my references available right now on all these facts, I am trying to do this by memory.

No word on where the USAirways A330s would go either (I would advise selling them to Northwest so they can get a head start retiring that aging DC-10 fleet before the A330 arrives in 2003.
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RE: AA & TWA Fleets

Mon Jan 29, 2001 2:53 pm

Really briefly, I don't think my post stuck.

I had read on the airline news here that as part of a deal between American and United that United would get some TWA aircraft along with their USAirways aircraft and American would get some USAirways aircraft as well as their TWA aircraft.

American would get MD-80s and 757s from TWA
American would get MD-80s and F100s from USAirways
BTW- American has 284 MD-80s not 260 (Reno Air purchase)

United would get A319/A320 along with 757s from USAirways, perhaps 767s and some of the newer 737s.

United would I believe get 767s from TWA

No word on where the 717s from TWA would go, best bet would be to go to AirTran.

No word on where USAirways A330s would go, but my best choice would be to sell them to Northwest early to start the replacement of DC-10s

I assume the DC-9s from both fleets would be retired.

I do know that a lot of USAirways aircraft are going to start ups DCAir and Potomac Air