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Shock, Horror - Qantas Found Guilty!

Tue Jan 30, 2001 2:50 pm

Courtesy of ATW online Magazine, also reported in the Australian press over the last few days!

Qantas pleaded guilty to animal cruelty charges related to the deaths of 68 rusa deer being carried in containers aboard a flight from Sydney to Bangkok last Feb. The RSPCA accused Qantas of using containers that were too small for the export cargo of deer, which died onboard the aircraft. The airline faces a maximum penalty of A$4,400 under the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act. It will reappear in court in Sydney for sentencing Feb. 27.

OH DEER! ( Pardon the pun!)

Got to feel sorry for the deer!

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RE: Shock, Horror - Qantas Found Guilty!

Tue Jan 30, 2001 7:40 pm

Great RSPCA, sad though that those lives were worth only 4000 dollars and that too Australian dollars Sad
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RE: Shock, Horror - Qantas Found Guilty!

Tue Jan 30, 2001 9:09 pm

Qantas doesn't care about the $4000 but it is a PR disaster. It will cost them millions in lost reservations and legal costs and thats US dollars.

RE: Shock, Horror - Qantas Found Guilty!

Tue Jan 30, 2001 9:30 pm

I think we have missed the point that the animals were loaded into the aircraft and mistreated. $4,400? What a joke, imagine if it were passengers dogs?


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RE: Shock, Horror - Qantas Found Guilty!

Tue Jan 30, 2001 10:07 pm

It is unfortunate that the deers did not survive. However it was not Qantas that packed them into the crates. This however does not absolve Qantas from accepting them for carriage. That is where I believe they made the mistake. I would hope the person/s involved would be disciplined appropriatly. As the original post says QF reps will re-appear for sentencing Feb 27. I recall reading in a newpaper, probably the Sydney Morning Herald that Qantas stated they would then provide evidence that they were not guilty of the charge. Whether that happens or not remains to be seen. Boeing422 your assumption that it will cost millions in lost reservations and legal costs in plainly incorrect. It has not affected reservation levels one bit and I would seriously doubt legal costs will run into millions. Once again lets wait and see until the final outcome is known before all becoming judge and jury. I also have flown my dog many time on both Australian and Qantas and she just loves it. She tells me all the time  Smile
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RE: Shock, Horror - Qantas Found Guilty!

Tue Jan 30, 2001 10:24 pm

Here's the news item from ninemsn - australia. The question i have is why is qantas blamed when it was loaded under supervision by the AQIS vet ???

Qantas pleads guilty to animal cruelty charges

Qantas pleaded guilty to charges of animal cruelty following an investigation into the deaths of rusa deer being transported from Australia to Thailand last year.

The airline had been transporting 114 deer to Bangkok from Brisbane via Sydney in February.

The RSPCA summonsed the airline to Sutherland Local Court in Sydney following an investigation into reports some of the deer had died.

The airline was charged in Sydney with four counts of animal cruelty under NSW laws, relating to the deer being unable to stand upright in the crates they had been loaded into on the plane.

However, Qantas Group freight general manager Peter Frampton said Qantas had not been responsible for loading the animals into the crates.

He said the guilty plea implied no fault on the part of the airline.

Mr Frampton said animals had been loaded under the supervision of an Australian Quarantine Inspection Service (AQIS) vet in Queensland.

"The airline pleaded guilty on four strict liability charges implying no fault on the part of Qantas," Mr Frampton said in a statement.

"The charges relate to the death of deer carried in crates on a Brisbane - Sydney flight last year.

"Qantas was not responsible for loading the animals into the crates, which was supervised by an AQIS vet and met all requirements under Queensland law."

RSPCA inspector Brett Bell said the investigation into the transportation of the deer was undertaken in Queensland by NSW officials.

Mr Bell said the charges related to the deer not being able to stand up properly in the crates.

"Those offences related to the carriage and conveyance of large livestock animals in containers which were insufficient in height to allow the animals to stand upright without coming in contact with the ceiling of the cage in which they were being transported," he said.

A Qantas spokeswoman confirmed some deer had died on the flight.

The matter was adjourned for sentencing on February 27.
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RE: Shock, Horror - Qantas Found Guilty!

Tue Jan 30, 2001 10:36 pm

Looks like QANTAS publicity wise, thought it best to plead guilty as they did accept the animals for cartage.
$4400.00 is quite small amount to pay.
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RE: Shock, Horror - Qantas Found Guilty!

Tue Feb 06, 2001 12:03 am

Get used to it because if airlines have their way we will be crammed in like the deers were!


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