erela
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Asiana VS. Korean Air

Sat Feb 03, 2001 7:42 am

Any comparison could be done between these two Korean airlines? Korean Air is more international with its network and Asiana is concentrated in domestic- does Asiana have international flights? Where? Which one of these two is better in quality? Which one cheaper?
 
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RE: Asiana VS. Korean Air

Sat Feb 03, 2001 7:52 am

Of course Asiana has international flights! Some that come to mind are Seattle, LAX, Sydney, HKG, LHR? I'm not sure on that one, but I think they fly to one or two places in Europe. I have flown on both, and think that given KE's record, Asiana is by far surperior. That is just my opinion. Even though KE would put many US airlines to shame, their record just can't be ignored. Sorry, guys. If given the choice, I'd fly Asiana. Their fleet includes 747-400, 767-300, 737-800, and I think 737-400. There might be more, but those are the ones I'm sure on. Hope this helps.
 
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RE: Asiana VS. Korean Air

Sat Feb 03, 2001 7:53 am

Yes, Asiana does fly to the U.S., albeit a very limited schedule. I believe they code-share with AA. I do know for sure they fly to LA on at least a daily basis. As far as service, KE is very good internationally and probably better than most U.S. domestic airlines. I haven't flown Asiana internationally but domestically (w/in Korea), it's virtually identical to KE. Price too.
 
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RE: Asiana VS. Korean Air

Sat Feb 03, 2001 8:03 am

Asiana and Korean Air are both very good airlines.

But Asiana does have a better safety record than Korean Air.

Asiana does fly to international cities.

I heard that Asiana might join OneWorld.

Work Hard But Play Harder
 
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RE: Asiana VS. Korean Air

Sat Feb 03, 2001 8:06 am

Asiana and Korean Air are both very good airlines.

But Asiana does have a better safety record than Korean Air.

Asiana does fly to international cities.

I heard that Asiana might join OneWorld.

Work Hard But Play Harder
 
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RE: Asiana VS. Korean Air

Sat Feb 03, 2001 8:09 am

Yes, they do code-share with AA. I've flown with them multiple times out of JFK to Seoul and from Seoul to Manila (most recently a month ago). It is hard for me to compare them with Korean since I've only flown Korean once, but Asiana's service has been excellent each time and I wouldn't hesitate to fly with them again in the future.
 
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RE: Asiana VS. Korean Air

Sat Feb 03, 2001 10:19 am

Asiana also fly to SIN and codesharing with SIA. Asiana used B763 for this route.
 
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RE: Asiana VS. Korean Air

Sat Feb 03, 2001 10:28 am

Asiana flies to LAX, SEA, JFK, SFO, and ANC (technical stop) from Seoul. So they are reasonably well-established in the USA. They cover all major Pacific Gateway airports on the West Coast at least...

Aaron G.
 
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RE: Asiana VS. Korean Air

Sat Feb 03, 2001 11:14 am

Asiana Route Map:

http://us.flyasiana.com/reservation/routemap/routemap.htm
 
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RE: Asiana VS. Korean Air

Sat Feb 03, 2001 11:42 am

Yeah well KA has a much cooler livery then Asianas, however asianas livery is pretty cool too  Smile .
ali
 
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RE: Asiana VS. Korean Air

Sat Feb 03, 2001 3:02 pm

Umm.... I really like Asiana.. but If you are going for service and meals.. try Korean Air.

But If you are going for Saftey, and an average service, I would definately go on Asiana.

Both Airlines are very good in Service, but Korean Air is very bad in it's safety record. Of course Asiana has International flights, I believe that LAX-SEL is one of the most popular though.

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RE: Asiana VS. Korean Air

Sat Feb 03, 2001 4:53 pm

I personally prefer KE- primarily for its network reach and service. I found OZ to be a very bland airline- unlike much of Asia based airlines. Maybe I prefer KE because I still have that start-up image of OZ, but since I've forgiven KE's safety record, it's an easy win for KE.
BTW, OZ will always be the second carrier in Korea keeping KE's prices in check. Not that it's a bad thing, but it really is crazy two almost identical airlines competing out of same airport. It happens elsewhere, but OZ must tread its waters carefully with KE's recent improvements (safety and founding of SkyTeam along with other world-class airlines). OZ will have to attract more diverse crowd of passengers and they can't do it alone with their branding. Perhaps OneWorld is the right one.
 
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RE: Asiana VS. Korean Air

Sat Feb 03, 2001 6:40 pm

I am not sure about the two, coz In haven't been on OZ. Unfortuanately, I wasn't satisfied for my Korean flts to Seoul. BUt they are far behind the service provided by AC and QF. Make your decision~

SKybutt
 
erela
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For: Winds Aloft And Others

Sat Feb 03, 2001 11:05 pm

Thanks for your replies! Winds Aloft, you mentioned flying from Seoul to Manila several times with Asiana- could you estimate the approximate fare for that leg or did you buy all your tickets from the US? Wonder if it´s also cheaper to fly to the US from Seoul than to Europe...?
Thanks!!
 
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RE: Asiana VS. Korean Air

Sun Feb 04, 2001 12:03 am

Asiana also fly a B747-400F to Brussels and Vienna.
Asiana has also A330's (200's and 300's) and A321's (+/-18) in it's fleet.
SAA B747 SP, Luxavia B747 SP
 
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To Erela

Sun Feb 04, 2001 1:12 am

Erela,

I bought my ticket in the U.S. and paid $1,140 for an economy-class round-trip from New York to Manila via Seoul. I'm afraid I don't know the specific price for the Seoul-Manila leg. I can tell you they normally use a 763 on that leg, but they occasionally use a 744 as well. And the flight is normally quite full. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
 
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RE: Asiana VS. Korean Air

Sun Feb 04, 2001 3:29 am

A lot of my filipino friends go on Asiana for a JFK-Manila via Seoul flight. But I believe that Asiana has much more diverse passengers in all It's US-SEL flights, compared to Korean Air. In my flight, their were only 55% koreans, and the rest were non-koreans. I also heard that during this spring, Asiana will join OneWorld, I'm sure that this will help a lot, with American and British Airways, making Asiana a much much better airline.
 
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RE: Asiana VS. Korean Air

Sun Feb 04, 2001 11:48 am

i Have never travelled Asiana but if you want to know something.... All korean based Airlines will be very good, Korean Air has not had a crash in just over three Years. There last was 98.

That is a sign that they are doing something to bring there Safety record to scratch.

If you are going on price then Asiana would be the best. Asiana flights around Asia and in Korea are a little cheaper than Korean Air.

But if you are going on Aircraft, i would choose Korean air as they have started to fit there aircrafts with PTV's. Asiana will only have PTV's in there new 777. Korean Air are fitting them in there 777, A330, 747 and some 737 aircraft.

They usually operate the B777 on this route.

Korean Air had many different Nationalities on board the last flight i went on. Many coming from Germany and England. Over 50% of the flight had non-asian passengers on board.


Hope this helps.

Cheers
mikey
 
erela
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Thanks Mates!

Sun Feb 04, 2001 10:22 pm

A great deal of information people! I like to fly Star but in Korea when neither of their airlines are in Star there is not much difference to me...I´ll keep this all in my mind though!
Erela
 
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RE: Asiana VS. Korean Air

Sun Feb 04, 2001 11:35 pm

Airnewzealand:
Didn't a Korean 747F crash just after take off from Stansted in December 99?
APP.
 
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Re: APP

Mon Feb 05, 2001 3:27 am

KAL Cargo Boeing 747-2B5F (HL7451) crashed on December 22, 1999, NOT 1998(As airnz has stated).
 
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RE: Asiana VS. Korean Air

Mon Feb 05, 2001 7:12 am

Thanks NEFlyer, I knew they'd had an acident more recently than 98. They also lost an MD83 in March 99 at Pohang. S.Korea.
APP.
 
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RE: Asiana VS. Korean Air

Mon Feb 05, 2001 11:13 am

Actually the worst year for KE was 99, I think. But don't forget that most of recent KE accidents were cargo planes or domestic flights to small regional airports. Actually, the worst accident in Guam wasn't not only for KE, but with Guam control authority.

Actually, as a Korean, I think KE flight will be safer than OZ's. OZ is suffered from so many smaller troubles. At least KE international flights are almost free from such troubles.

Well, I'm not to blame OZ. OZ recently had alliance with CX, and it's thought that OZ would join OW. OW has no actual Chinese inland network and OZ has the biggest network into China PR among non-Chinese liners. I think CX-OZ in OW fits well.

And OZ fleet: OZ doesn't have 330s and 737NGs. OZ's 737 fleet is only -400/500, and under replacing with new 321s. OZ cancelled all 330 orders and is going to get 777s. (I'm sad for no 330. I wished OZ has both 330 and 340.)
 
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They Don't Fly To IAH, So...

Mon Feb 05, 2001 11:18 am

KE has a reputation to live down, but they do have much of the US covered. I'd think Asiana might be interested in Houston, but they're drifting into the OneWorld orbit, which kills that possibility. Still, if CO buys DL, maybe the DFW service will be switched or extended to Houston...
 
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RE: Asiana VS. Korean Air

Mon Feb 05, 2001 12:00 pm

About the Guam incident, Korean families have sued and recently settled for x million of dollars. I have the article book marked at home and I'll post it on Wednesday when I get back home from Miami. This settlement means that the accident was not the fault of KE's wholly- but it was a combination of poor equipment AND KE pilot error
 
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RE: Asiana VS. Korean Air

Mon Feb 05, 2001 3:25 pm

As a korean-american myself, a lot of my white friends think that Asiana is an asian based airline with having hubs all over Asia. And then I tell them that Asiana is a korean airline. Asiana is pretty safe with only having one incident with a 737-500. Even though Asiana had Honolulu, Chicago, Detroit, Vancouver and most europe cities taken off in 97-98, I believe that they will resume those "missing" cities right when the Korea-Economy crisis will come to an end.
 
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RE: Asiana VS. Korean Air

Mon Feb 05, 2001 6:17 pm

Sorry guys for the mistake i made. I thought it was DEC. 98

Cheers
mikey

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