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Potentials For The B 747X Stretch

Sun Feb 04, 2001 5:11 am

In 2001, I do expect Lufthansa, United Airlines, KLM, Northwest, Cathay Pacific (Maybe) getting the B 747X Stretch.

They may each end of getting 10 to 20 B 747X Stretch for their ultra busy routes. Especially the ones to Asia.

Therefore, I do believe that the B 747X Stretch is having a good future ahead of it. And I believe that it will be success.

What do you guys think? All ideas are welcome!

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RE: Potentials For The B 747X Stretch

Sun Feb 04, 2001 6:38 am

If Boeing does go ahead with the 747X(which I hope they do) they will probably get a lot of support and there is more likely that north american airlines would go for it, as they all pretty much operate a boeing long haul fleet, and the 747X seats less then the A380. I expect it to be pretty popular, I am all for it.
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RE: Potentials For The B 747X Stretch

Sun Feb 04, 2001 10:14 am

Sounds good to me. Is this info justified in any way?
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cba
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RE: Potentials For The B 747X Stretch

Sun Feb 04, 2001 10:49 am

Does the 747X Stretch have better operating costs than the A380? If so, I can see many Asian airlines using it on high density domestic routes.
 
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RE: Potentials For The B 747X Stretch

Sun Feb 04, 2001 11:32 am

Should Boeing launch the B747X Stretch, I expect

airlines like Japan Airlines, British Airways, Cathay

Pacific, Lufthansa, Qantas (maybe), Singapore Airlines

(perhaps) etc. to order it.
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ZK-NBT
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RE: Potentials For The B 747X Stretch

Sun Feb 04, 2001 11:45 am

I would also add the Air New Zealand and Ansett Australia group All Nippon, I don't know about Cathay Pacific and I don't think Qantas and Singapore airlines will because they already ordered the A380 but the rest that have already been mentioned are definate possibilities.

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RE: Potentials For The B 747X Stretch

Sun Feb 04, 2001 12:35 pm

I am not sure but I may also hope that Boeing launches
the B747X. But my reasons are different than yours,
guys. I hope that there is market for VLA-s. If it is
so Boeing's launch of the B747X could create another
B764 vs A332 situation. The B747X would make it harder
for Boeing to launch an all new design and may just
freeze Boeing into a disadventageous situation.

Who knows, after all the hussle about AI not being
able to recover the 12billion or so, invested into the
A380, it would be an interesting outcome if AI
makes big money on A380 and Boeing cannot
recover the 4 billion cost of B747X.
Hmm, that would be the case when the torpedo explodes
in the torpedo tube!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy.

Well, this is my thought and hopes, I dunno what
will really happens!

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tim
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RE: Potentials For The B 747X Stretch

Sun Feb 04, 2001 12:40 pm

I agree with ZK-NBT,

Theres no way Qantas or Singapore Airlines will buy the Boeing 747X stretch.

Airlines would be stupid to buy the A380 and 747X stretch.

However, I can see Airlines ordering the A380 aswell as the 744LR (as Qantas has done)

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RE: Potentials For The B 747X Stretch

Sun Feb 04, 2001 1:14 pm

I believe so too. They better off sticking to a single line of product.

Anyway, I am pretty sure that the 747X Stretch could be as successful as the A 380.

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RE: Potentials For The B 747X Stretch

Sun Feb 04, 2001 4:43 pm

If 747X is launched, I can see few airlines that have signed up for A380 to sign up as an insurance policy for A380. They can always convert 747X order to, say 777 if A380 performs as well as it is supposed to. Top of that list?- SQ for sure.
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RE: Potentials For The B 747X Stretch

Sun Feb 04, 2001 5:37 pm

I think Boeing should just develop an entirely new airplane, which would be able to compete with the A380 AND also replace the 744. This way they would be able to get more orders to launch it.

If Boeing decides to go ahead with the 747X however, I think United will buy some X's, as well as some Asian airlines (they buy everything), with Cathay launching freighter variant probably.

All this talk about Lufthansa ordering makes it enticing to say that they will, but logic still points towards Airbus.

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RE: Potentials For The B 747X Stretch

Sun Feb 04, 2001 5:39 pm

An interesting PARADOX

I do disagree that just because an airline has ordered the A380, it won't go for the 747X (is it X or ER)? Look at the SIA 744 fleet now. Some are over 10yrs old!! THey will need to replace them. THe 747? is ideal.

I think the airlines that IMO should get the 747? are:

British Airways, United Airlines, American (if they want ever operate any sort of Jumbo), Catahy Pacific, Ansett, Air New Zealand, Lufthansa (a small number)

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RE: Potentials For The B 747X Stretch

Sun Feb 04, 2001 9:48 pm

i don´t see why there shouldn´t be an airline operating both the 747X and the A-380.
i agree that this is just something for the major carriers operating large long-haul fleets but there are many airlines operating 777s along with 330s/340s, CX, MH, AF, and it works for them.
however, that would be just an exception to the rule and it depends on the network and the yields, i suppose.
and for some time VS was seriously thinking about ordering both a380 and 747X so i really don´t think that´s ultimatively wrong.
well, who knows?

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RE: Potentials For The B 747X Stretch

Sun Feb 04, 2001 10:43 pm


Singapore_Air,

SIA CEO said when they ordered the 380 that it was one or another for their company and that they will not buy 747X. Of course, things may change but that is what he said at the time.

 
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RE: Potentials For The B 747X Stretch

Sun Feb 04, 2001 10:51 pm

Northwest better start thinking about it- they have a ton of aging 747-200s and only 14 or so 400s.


A larger aircraft would work great on their DTW-Tokyo route.

Orriginally Northwest was going to get the A340-600, whatever happened to that and why haven't any U.S. companies caught on to the A340 yet? Of all the airlines that you would expect to get the A340 you would think Northwest since (with the demise of USAirways)they would be the largest US airbus customer.

Anyway, again I think that Northwest would be in the market for either the 747 stretch, A340-600 or the A380 for their pacific routes. I think they would be looking for an aircraft that would have the range to fly from Detroit to Sydney.

 
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RE: Potentials For The B 747X Stretch

Sun Feb 04, 2001 10:55 pm

Right now, the basis for the launch of the 747X series really depends on will either United (UA) or Northwest (NW) buys the plane.

If Airbus can convince UA and NW to buy the A380-800, then it will be extremely unlikely that Boeing will start the 747X program.

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