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Sling Shot Take Offs

Tue Feb 06, 2001 5:44 am

Do modern planes ever lock up the breaks and crank the engines to full throttle on takeoffs anymore? They used to when I was very young and it always made for a spectacular powerful takeoff. I swear it hasn't happend since the very early 80's. I assume they don't do this as much because of the longer runways and more powerful engines. If there are any other reasons I'd love to know, and if any planes at any airports still do this I'd love to know. Thanks in advanced!
 
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RE: Sling Shot Take Offs

Tue Feb 06, 2001 5:47 am

When departing runway 8 at Juneau (PAJN) they still do this due to noise abatement on the straight-out departure and altitude restrictions on the Lemon Creek departure (the oh-my-god... we're making this kind of maneuver in a 737 departure)  Smile
 
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RE: Sling Shot Take Offs

Tue Feb 06, 2001 6:04 am

Aircraft out of SNA do it all the time.

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RE: Sling Shot Take Offs

Tue Feb 06, 2001 7:25 am

Qantas, AirNZ do it at Auckland!! I have been in this case. God i say it is powerful when they release those brakes.

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RE: Sling Shot Take Offs

Tue Feb 06, 2001 8:10 am

When i was departing St Lucia on a Brittania 767-200ER, we had the engines spool up to about 80% before releasing the already groaning breaks and shooting down that runway like a bat out of hell! rotated at around 170kts! a little to quick if you ask me!
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RE: Sling Shot Take Offs

Tue Feb 06, 2001 8:24 am

I flew my first ever flight when I was 4 with a 737-200, and I do have a vague memory of a really speedy rotation and then an almost vertical climb- but then again, seeing as it was my very first time on a plane I might have been over-awed by the entire experience and maybe I remember it as more drastic than it really was.....  Confused
 
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RE: Sling Shot Take Offs

Tue Feb 06, 2001 8:27 am

We do it quite often in the corporate jets that I fly. It's a normal procedure anytime the available runway is less than 120% of the required runway distance. It's really a hoot, especially when we're light and/or flying a deadhead leg. (Wouldn't want to spill the boss's coffee!) It usually always gets a comment from the tower. Yea Haw!!! Big grin
 
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RE: Sling Shot Take Offs

Tue Feb 06, 2001 10:58 am

Our airline does it every now and then out of outstations with short runways. On the Saabs everynow and then especally when were maxed out. On the RJ's (EMB-135/145) it really cool.....hearing thoese jets scream and when they relase the brakes...you just zip down the runway. This happens espically in DCA when they give us the short runway (I can't recall y the #).
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RE: Sling Shot Take Offs

Tue Feb 06, 2001 11:40 am

United 737-300 at Southern Illinois Airport (Carbondale), RWy 36R. 6,000 feet long. 100 feet wide.
 
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RE: Sling Shot Take Offs

Tue Feb 06, 2001 11:48 am

Quite often the FedEx A310s and many of the Delta MD-80s do that here at CLE, even on the parallels (8,999 and 8,000). The MD-80s really roar!
I also miss the UA DC-10 which darn near blew me off the spotting knoll a few times doing that.

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RE: Sling Shot Take Offs

Tue Feb 06, 2001 2:06 pm

As Maiznblu_757 said, just about every t/o is in the sling-shot manner. I've done it in a UAL 757 - the biggest plane going into SNA. Boy, is that fun! However, all the fun ends, when, as soon as you rotate, the pilot seriously chops back the engines to comply with TIGHT noise abatement procedures. Fun, and scary all at the same time!

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RE: Sling Shot Take Offs

Tue Feb 06, 2001 6:50 pm

would that not be mainly depending on runway lenghth and take off weight ??
 
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RE: Sling Shot Take Offs

Tue Feb 06, 2001 10:14 pm

why does everyone have an exp... with this kind of t/o on a 732.

I have mine on these too.

old COK airport on Alliance 732's. Hmmm. now THATs something i am not likely to forget in a hurry!


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RE: Sling Shot Take Offs

Tue Feb 06, 2001 10:51 pm

Whats a sling shot takeoff? I found the take off at LHR very high speed and steeply angled, it was on an Emirates A300-600 Smile
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RE: Sling Shot Take Offs

Tue Feb 06, 2001 11:07 pm

I remember this type of takeoff is done frequently by Air New Zealand 737-200s on domestic routes...at least they did when I was there. I've also been on DC-10s and an A320 that have done a "sling-shot" takeoff...it is very exciting.
 
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RE: Sling Shot Take Offs

Tue Feb 06, 2001 11:20 pm

OK! I get it now, yes ive wondered about that too, I have seen some aircraft do that in KHI on rare occasions mostly A300s and 747s Smile
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IndianGuy!

Wed Feb 07, 2001 1:27 am

Hey, I know EXACTLY what you are talking about! When I was in Port Blair (IXZ) (andaman and Nicobar), we revved those ?JT8Ds? up to full throttle and literally FLEW outta there!!! It was awesome!!! Also in BTV (Burlington, Vermont, USA) We shoot right out on those UAL CRj's!!!


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RE: Sling Shot Take Offs

Wed Feb 07, 2001 1:51 am

I fly out of IAH on Continental every week, and have had them do it several times. Maybe the pilots just enjoy doing it more since there really is not a practical reason in Houston.
 
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RE: Sling Shot Take Offs

Wed Feb 07, 2001 2:35 am

I remember when I was in the Navy flying on C-9's - I used to say that you could always tell the reserve pilots who used to fly fighters - because they would do that all the time. Interesting feeling when you're sitting right behind a few thousand pounds of cargo that you hope you netted the right way!
 
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RE: Sling Shot Take Offs

Wed Feb 07, 2001 3:09 am

We did it once on a Ryanair 737-200 out of Stansted. I could have sworn that I was flying in a fighter, and the fact that I was in a 737 was insane.

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