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If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

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If the earth were a pyramid, how would the principles of flight be different? How would it be different to get from point a to point b? Most important, how would Navigation be different?? Anything else you can think of write it here...How would Aviation (principles, flight etc) be different if the earth were a pyramid?

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

get a life you idiot

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

A hint: just imagine the Earth still a sphere but with four HUGE mountains... I think then there are only four areas to build airports - in the center of each pyramid side! Everything else would be pretty much the same...

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

Qantas747-sp: Jeez lay off him why don't you?

I think if the earth were pyramidical, there would be some major problems with going from one "face" of the earth to the other, so much that "stop-off" airports would have to be built periodically at "edges" of each face so that aircraft could land there and passengers/cargo be transported overland to the other face and resume flying. This is because the minute an aircraft flies off one face of the pyramid, it is automatically at a 135-degree angle in relation to the new face it would over. This would undoubtedly cause some problems(!) and if anyone tried it I doubt they would be able to get their plane upright in time to miss the ground.

My 2 cents...

Aaron G.

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

What if the earth was a doulbe helix, with each strand rotating. How long would a flight from Singapore to Pluto take?

This post is ridiculous.

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

I think its a cool posting (ridiculous as it may be).

If the earth were a pyramid, gravitational forces would be very different at different points on all 3 faces. So would centripetal, centrifugal forces. I doubt if Bernoullis principal would apply, nor would most of the standard laws of newtonian physics that govern lift, drag, etc. But I bet that airline food would be just as awful, and that airlines would lose your luggage and send it to the wrong pyramidal face.

Perhaps, we'd all be flying around in rocket ships dressed like weirdos from Star Trek and making fun of people who live in gravitationally deprived parts of the world.
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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

Would it be a 3-sided or a 4-sided pyramid? Or maybe an infinite-sided pyramid: a cone.
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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

Why not a trapezoid?

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

Let's just stick to a 3-sided "Egyptian" pyramid for now.
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On second thought about my previous post, I drew some diagrams in Chem class and found that all the pilots would need to do to align themselves with the face of the pyramid as they enter a new one is go into a gradual dive during the time they are overflying the "tip" of the pyramid. This probably wouldn't be hard to do, although I think some pilots could get confused if they are flying over large ocean or cloudcover, which could be disastrous.

Gravity would also be a problem...would planes be drawn closer to the ground when they are flying over the center of a face of the pyramid??

Aaron G.

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

Egyptian pyramids were 4 sided.
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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

Whoops...

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

Thats a very strange post!! How did u think of that one?

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

Odd topic...yet strangely intriguing. It's like one of Einstein's thought experiments. If Earth were a pyramid, gravity would be all messed up. Every time you leave the center of one of the faces, you would begin to feel gravity pulling you back toward the center of the face. The farther you are from the center, the stronger the pull. In order to fly (assuming you have a normal airplane) you would have to be able to pitch your plane up or down so that lift is always perpendicular to the gravitational force (pointing toward the center of the pyramid). But as you move toward the edges, the pitch of the plane will be such that your nose must be pointing toward the ground. Unless you can generate lift that is greater than your thrust (have what sphere dwellers consider "vertical speed" greater than "horizontal speed") you will crash. After you cross the edge and move back toward the center of another face, the reverse occurs. This time you have your nose pointed away from the ground.

But anyway, I don't think people could live anywhere other than the centers of the faces since they're constantly being dragged there by gravity. But then again, I was never great at physics so I could be totally wrong.

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

Geez for those of you who are calling me an idiot...thanx the feeling is mutual. This is for Geometry, and I am trying to think of some ideas, so lay the hell off of me OK!... Thanx to you guyz who tried to give some creative ideas

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

first of all, you are thinking too much, but tho, I still appreciate your creativeness.

If it is a pyramid, it would be much easier to fly to the space. First of all, to make the earth a pyramid, there must be some ineven distribution of gravity. Probably there would be way less gravitational force along all edges/ridges, so a/cs or space shuttles could actually fly to the space w/ much less fuel. in other words, less gravitational force=> more lift.

hope this "help"!!!

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

I don't particularly think of it as a stupid question - rather I think of it as the type of question you would think of sitting in a dark room, smoking pot, and staring at that old Pink Floyd poster with the Pyramids on it (and might as well be listening to PF while you're at it).

Ppphhhhtttt!....Dude, like what if the earth was not like round, but a poly... trapa.... Dude, like what they have in Egypt, man. Ppphhhhtttt!....

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RE: Cfalk

Yes, those were the days......

(Did I say that??)

Anyways, if the Earth were a pyramid, I would hate to live on the point... ouch, that would hurt.
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If The Earth Were A Toilet,...

would you fly off the handle?

Oh, wow, it's too late in the evening for my mind to be tossing around such esoterica...

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

uhmmm maybe air currents would differ wildly because of incidence of sunlight on the faces. Now if the translation and rotation factors of the faces behave as standard (23 1/2 tilt, which in space dores not incurr in any abnormal factor) each face would have an almost uniform spread of sunrays heating the air and because of this huge clashes of warm and cold air would result in very strong currents thanks to gravity and the edges of the pyramids.As a result of this the atmosphere of the earth would be an extreme change of temperatures which would not be beneficial to smooth flying. Or maybe its just to late and I have no idea of what ive just written but. Anyways....thanks for the intriguing post.
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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

What would air travel be like if rain fell up?

If geese were made of jet-fuel, would a bird-strike be a good thing?

Which airline has the prettiest cabin curtains?

Which aircraft has the most durable windshield wiper blades?

Which airport has the coolest employee badges?

Which African airline has the best pretzels?

If runway numbers were written in calligraphy, would there be more near-misses?

Sorry, couldn't resist...honest

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

...and more: what if the Earth was an EMPTY sphere and we lived in the INNER surface (for those who knows: like Neznajka na Lune, Dunno on the Moon)? What about the air travel inside a sphere? All right, I know, the center of gravity is still IN THE CENTER, and all of us would "fall" there... but what if (somehow!) it is not?

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

Ah, but if the Earth was hollow, it would have much less mass, and therefore less gravity. The Earth's rotation would provide centrifugal force holding us against the outer shell - although everyone might be forced towards the equator.

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

If you notice that it's some law of travelling through the universe that almost ALL objects (planets, etc) in space are spheres (those have been found). So, there's no chance our Earth would ever be pyramid.
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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

What if the Earth was a cube, or a die?
I would want to live on the side with six islands.
We on the sixer side would combine forces with the fivers. But let them know who are supperior.
Together we would destroy the four side.
On the three side we would establish colonies.
People on the two islands we would make our slaves.
While we would ignore those on the single island.

In my nightmares I often dream that the world really is a die....

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

What if the earth were a piece of jello? How would you land a plane on that? What kinda topic is this anyway?

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Cfalk

I see the relativeness, wouldnt that mean more fuel efficiency? I like my jello idea. LOL

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

Ok sorry, I tried to get some ideas for a project I am doing in Geometry...you guyz wanna burn me or something??   God lay off me ok!

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

Oh Olympic A-340, you should have told that in advance. Now we are too tired to deal with serious stuff.
You will have to start a new thread tomorrow
Cheers, Preben Norholm
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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

The thing is, Olympic A-340 DID say quite a few posts up in the thread that this was for a school project...yet some people just don't have much brain-keypad coordination and continue type things that look stupid.

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I think that the only way to solve the gravity problem would be to have a center of gravity that is actually not a defined center, but more or less a line of points with gravitational pull arranged in a way that would make all parts of the surface of the pyramid the same distance from a "point" of gravity. Does anyone follow me on this??

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

Yeh, I agree with you, Maiznblu_757.   lol

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

What if we lived inside earth like a baby bird live in an egg before hatching except on a bigger scale.

very rediclous.
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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

I don't check the forum for 2 days and this kinda crap happens. What if pigs flew? How would GE, PW and RR handle the POD? I thought this was a forum on civil aviation.

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RE: If The Earth Is A Pyramid...would Flying Be Diff?

Really interesting, but I don't think I can add anything to the responses that were already made, so here are my two cents - if grandma had balls, she'd be grandpa.
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