cruising
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Attention Seattle Area Members!

Wed Feb 07, 2001 11:12 am

AIAA Pacific Northwest section will present 'Boeing's Future Twin Aisle Airplane Families' on Feb. 15 2001.

The speaker will be Mike Burtle of the Boeing Company. He is a chief of the 777 product development.

For more information, check http://www.pnwaiaa.com

Hope to see you there.
 
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boeingrulz
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RE: Attention Seattle Area Members!

Wed Feb 07, 2001 11:17 am

Hi Cruising

I just tried the link you supplied and it seems to be broken. Any other info like time and place?

Thanks much,
Carolyn
 
cruising
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RE: Attention Seattle Area Members!

Wed Feb 07, 2001 11:28 am

Carolyn,

I checked the web, too. Yes! It seems it is broken.

Here is more info.

Date: Feb. 15, 2001
Place: College Club, 505 Madison St. Downtown Seattle
Time:
6:00pm Social, No-Host Bar
6:30pm Dinner
7:00pm Program

Dinner Reservation: Call anytime (425)234-8574

Dinner Price:
$23 AIAA Members and Spouses
$28 Non-Members
$15 Student

Program Only: $5.00

Please note that a reservation is a commitment to pay
Free parking available under the College Club
Due to limited seating, please make reservation early.

I hope above info help you.
 
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RE: Attention Seattle Area Members!

Wed Feb 07, 2001 1:22 pm

What will be the program? Details, please! It sounds like fun.
 
cruising
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RE: Attention Seattle Area Members!

Wed Feb 07, 2001 2:19 pm

As I said in the head, Mike Burtle of the Boeing Company will talk about new Boeing widebody products, such as 777-200LR, 777-300ER, 767-400ERX, and of course, 747X.

I think it will be a great opportunity to hear about Boeing's future plans on widebody aircraft. You get the chance to ask one of top managers in Boeing. Well, I am sure he won't give all the answers you want to hear, but he will give good answers.

Is Seattle such a great plance to live if you are into airplanes?  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Attention Seattle Area Members!

Wed Feb 07, 2001 2:24 pm

Oh- that sounds like fun! I don't know if the parents will want to go, though...  Smile

5th and Madison... thats right by I-5, not too far from the library, right?
 
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RE: Attention Seattle Area Members!

Thu Feb 15, 2001 1:27 pm

Don't forget Tomorrow's interesting lecture at College Club.

May I ask who will be attending?
 
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RE: Attention Seattle Area Members!

Sat Feb 17, 2001 8:07 am

I wish I could have...but I was cooped up at home with a miserable sickness  Sad. And not to mention traffic would have been a mess with the snow falling last night. So... how was it?
 
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RE: Attention Seattle Area Members!

Sat Feb 17, 2001 5:20 pm

Mike Burtle gave an excellent presentation. He presented Long Range767-400ER, 767-300ERX, 777-200LR, 777-300ER, 747-400LR, and 747X. He showed us a lot different charts regarding cost index, market potential, and some new technologies will be implented in upcomming Boeing widebodies. He showed us a chart explain why Boeing belives market will be fragmented in the future. Well, after looking at the data he showed us, believe it or not, I was convinced that Boeing has very good argument on their prediction(market fragment).

Since he is the 777 guy, his topic was mainly on new 777s. The 777 will have enhanced landing gear system (I forgot its technical name), that will improve maximum takeoff weight. He also mentioned on overhead space utilization. Current 777's crew rest area is located underneath main cabin, but new 777 will have crew rest area in overhead area. According to him, overhead space of the front body section will have pilot rest area. By doing so, airlines can generates up to 4 more reveue business class seats. Aft overhead section will be for crew resting and the area can hold up to 14 beds. The area can be used as galley, storage and many more. The wingspan is extened and they will put raked tips.

He also showed us a chart showing where all of the Boeing widedodies and competitors are placed in the market. (The x-axis is "range" and y-axis is "# of Pax.")
After looking at that chart, I felt the 767 isn't in good shape, because A330-200 is in better market position. It is just my opinion. I wished I can show you the chart. If you see it, you will understand what I mean.

747X was usual thing. Pretty much what you heard from media.

Matter of new airplane issue, he gave us a patented PD statement: "We always study new airplane". Smile He added, "I love to talk about new airplane, but sorry, can't tell you."

Somebody asked him about A380 cost saving compare to 747s. He said that Boeing believes Airbus' claim is bit exaggerated.

There was a lot of retired Boeing engineers and notably Gordon Mckinzie was there, too. In case you don't know him, he was UA representative of the 777 design team.

I conclude that it was a good marketing presentation by Mr. Burtle.  Big thumbs up

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