SInGAPORE_AIR
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Loyal Airlines

Sun Feb 11, 2001 4:16 am

Loyal Airlines - Airlines that side with a manufacturer in this case.

Hmm. I don't really see the point of being loyal. Except that sometimes an airline can be able to reap small discounts.

I think some loyal airlines include:
I dunno:

Some not loyal airlines are

Singapore Airlines - (eg, MD-11 - A340, A340 - 777, 747X - A380)
QF - (their recent Airbus order)
CI - (their recent Airbus order)

I think airlines are in it only for their gain. The manufacturers I think, can only compete it they build aircraf that are better than the other manufacturer.

That's my €10000 and two cents!
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trintocan
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RE: Loyal Airlines

Sun Feb 11, 2001 2:15 pm

Airline loyalty to manufacturers is driven by pricing structures, commonality of fleets, known track records of service and equipment support and, in some instances, politics. Altogether such a scheme usually is of mutual benefit.

Some well-known cases are:

McDonnell Douglas - SAS, Swissair, Iberia, Alitalia, American, United to some extent, BWIA, KLM, Finnair, Delta, Chinese carriers, Northwest

Boeing - American, United, Japan Airlines, British Airways, EL AL, Qantas, Southwest

Airbus - Lufthansa, Air France, Alitalia, Air Jamaica, Air Canada. With Airbus, since the company is much younger than the other 2 (which are of course 1 now) the pattern of brand loyalty is only now arising but will be a prominent feature of the future.

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SInGAPORE_AIR
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RE: Loyal Airlines

Sun Feb 11, 2001 5:46 pm

Ah!!! How interesting! Thank you
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watewate
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RE: Loyal Airlines

Sun Feb 11, 2001 5:58 pm

Very well thought out post Trintocan. But I can't help but think that SIA is an oddity. SIA seems to get its hands on ANY and EVERY single new type of widebody that rolls off the factory. A300/310/330/340, DC10, MD11, B747/777 and soon to fly A380. (I don't think they operated 767, but I maybe wrong on this) Talk about variety...
SIA has got to be the most unloyal airline out there. The fact that they can exert much force through its recognition around the world and the size of its fleet gives it an extremely powerful bargaining chip when negotiating with manufacturers. Just look at their 777 deal.
 
SInGAPORE_AIR
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RE: Loyal Airlines

Sun Feb 11, 2001 9:35 pm

Well done Watewate! Horrah and kudos to you!
I wouldn't say Singapore Airlines in not loyal. they just wanna get the best deal. OK then they are a bit unloyal so to speak

ANd no they didn't fly the 767 but they flew the little 757 before dumping it and choosing the A310 which will hopefully be dumped.
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JAL
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RE: Loyal Airlines

Mon Feb 12, 2001 6:34 am

Boeing: JAL El Al AA Delta Continental Southwest
KLM


Airbus: Air Canada US Airways Lufthansa
Middle East Airlines Air Jamaica

those are just some examples of airlines loyalty to a both manufacturer. Like the others say, airlines regularly gets big discounts for being loyal to either Boeing or Airbus.

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