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Is BA Reliable?

Wed Apr 21, 1999 1:47 pm

I will be flying with Canada 3000 ( a canadian charter co. ) and I have given myself 2hrs in between flights in MAN to meet my connection to Belfast. If for any reason the Canada 3000 flight is delayed, will BA put me on the next available flight or just laugh at me?!?! I talked to Canada 3000 and they said they are not responsible!!! Any advice or previous flight info would be appreciated!!!!

Canada 3000 Is..

Wed Apr 21, 1999 7:52 pm

In Airways magazine a couple of months ago, they did a profile on Canada 3000.

Some people later wrote to airways as a response on the article and personal experience on Canda 3000-and they repsonses were not good. I think this guy wrote to them and said they had to spend 8 hours in a ETOPS 757. I'm not sure, i may have forgotten. he also said the seats were a torture...

but anyway, if are commited to fly Canada 3000, be prepared to have a hard time...
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RE: Is BA Reliable?

Wed Apr 21, 1999 9:02 pm

I think your posting should be "Is Canada 3000 reliable?". I don't think you can fault BA if your Canada 3000 flight is late arriving. If they do put you on the next available it would be to their credit and I don't see why they wouldn't.

RE: Canada 3000 Is..

Wed Apr 21, 1999 10:21 pm

Why would someone count spending 8 hours in a 757 as someting against Canada 3000. There are plenty of airlines on which you spend 8 hours in a 757, there isn't anything inordinate about that.

RE: Is BA Reliable?

Wed Apr 21, 1999 10:36 pm

I don't believe Kevin is trying to "fault BA." Knowing that his Canada 3000 flight could be late, he simply is wondering if BA will honor tickets for a missed flight.

Kevin, it would probably be a good idea to call BA and ask them about your situation. I believe, if you paid for tickets, they would accomidate you if possible. Secondly, if during your trip you realize you're going to be late for any flight, it is always a good idea to call the airline to make arrangements if at all possible.
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RE: Is BA Reliable?

Thu Apr 22, 1999 12:40 am

Having worked as an f/a for a Canadian charter airline operating 757s on long (and very long) transatlantic flights, I know why passengers are ready to fly charter rather than chosing a scheduled airline: the price! It's as simple as that. There is also the fact that Canadian charters (Canada 3000, Royal and Air Transat) offer direct flights to many European cities not served by scheduled carriers. Air Transat, for example, flies from Toronto to Aberdeen, Scotland! No sched would ever operate that route. All in all, there are several reasons why people chose charters airlines.

To Kevin: As for your BA ticket, no, Canada 3000 will not be responsible for your missed connection as it is only responsible for your Canada-Manchester flight. Check with BA to see what their policy is.

Hope you have a nice flight on C3. You might even get to fly on one of their newly acquired A330-200s which, it seems, offer more leg room than the 757s.

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757 Cramped?

Thu Apr 22, 1999 2:27 am

I have spent 6 hrs in a 757 on a UAL flight from EWR-SFO. It wasn't cramped at all. In fact it was quite comfortable. I don't understand why people continue to complain about the 757's interior room. I have never had a problem with it.
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RE: 757 Cramped?

Thu Apr 22, 1999 2:51 am

I have flown on 757 quite a few times. The NWA MSP-ANC route was made for that aircraft. It is about five hours long. I never have had a problem with the ride on that airplane.(NWA itself is another story)

I still get the feeling that I am the only person on here that prefers narrow body aircraft to widebodies.
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RE: 757 Cramped?

Thu Apr 22, 1999 7:32 am

No, the 757 is not always cramped (I like narrowbodies too). If you fly United or Northwest, you're getting a "normal" configuration (188 seats in the case of UA and 190 for NW). Charters, however, offer less legroom. The Canadian charters, such as Canada 3000 and Air Transat, have either 226 or 228 seats in their 757s. Some British charters (Britannia, Monarch, Airtours, etc) manage to fit their 757s with up to 235 seats (the maximum is 239). I believe that's what they mean by "cramped".

RE: 757 Cramped?

Thu Apr 22, 1999 7:33 am

I think there's a big difference between Canada3000 and
UA, or any sked airline. Canada3000's 757's have 228 seats, sked carriers have a lot less.
I agree that the 757 is a comfortable plane, but if you ever get a chance, check out a C3 plane....its cramped.
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RE: 757 Cramped?

Thu Apr 22, 1999 10:28 am

I do like narrowbodies!! (Widebodies are better, though...) The 757 is a very nicely built aircraft, with plenty of legroom, whether you be in First or Economy class. I also like the 320 series, but I don't understand what the big hype about them is. Oooh....a whole extra inch added to my seat width!


RE: 757 Cramped?

Thu Apr 22, 1999 11:06 am

I don't care whether it's a narrow or wide-body, if my knees are wedged under the table tray of the seat ahead of me and my butt is barely resting on the seat cushion, ITS CRAMPED, and no , I'm average build at 6' and 165 lbs . Air Transat and C3 are cramped, thats the reason you got the good deal. Are they reliable? Delays are not unheard of.....
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A Bit Of An Update

Thu Apr 22, 1999 1:38 pm

Thanks for all your responses!!! The bad news first; C3 said they aren't responsible for my BA flight. BA said they will try their best but NO guarantees! My BA flight is at 1800hrs and the last one to BFS leaves at 1920!!! Hopefully C3 will be on time!
As for the 757, fortunatly I won't have to sit in a 757 for 12hrs!!!! If I did, I'd stop down in Calgary and Iceland! (ouch!!!) I'll be flying in the new Airbus A330-200. If you have any tips on those, it would be greatly appriciated!

A330-200 Is Scarey!

Thu Apr 22, 1999 1:49 pm

I heard that the interior of the Canada 3000 A330-200s are all red. is that true, if that's the case, I would be freaked out!
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RE: C3's A330-200s

Thu Apr 22, 1999 11:54 pm

To Kevin. Canada 3000's A330s are configured with 340 seats (8-abreast). It could be much worse, as the A330 can have 9-abreast seating. In fact, the 8-abreast seating is a selling pitch for C3. (In comparison, Air Transat's A330s have 362 seats and the maximum seating for that type of a/c is 405 pax.) As for the interior, I know the seats are red, as they are in all of C3's fleet.

Have you reserved your seat? When I fly charter, I try to reserve (when possible) a exit-row or bulkhead seat; if you can't reserve your seat, you'll have to show up at the airport early enough. A great seat makes a big difference.

Have a nice trip.


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